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dpeg wrote:Try to get over the fixation of "X has to be awesome throughout the game'.

There is no point in the game where Poison Magic is awesome.

Sure, why not? Here is a restatement of why I think Poison Magic is bad. 1. There is already a school of magic with offensive spells that are great early on, but don't work against everything and taper off during the endgame, it's called Necromancy . But Necromancy gets Regeneration, Haunt, Death's ...

Is there any non-degenerate uses of digging that aren't covered more effectively by passwall? Just remove digging altogether (and especially the stone/metal wall digging nonsense from LRD and Shatter, which exists for no other reason than to make people create "optimal" level bypasses by c...

Call them trapdoor elves, make them fast, and have them surface like trapdoor spiders. Also prevents problems with killholing them because when one surfaces, all of them on LoS should also surface, so you're fighting either no elves or all the elves.

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Maybe... disjunctive attack instead? (possibly blink other away when attack hits) While it would have some strategic uses, I think that a "melee makes everything blink around like imps" species would probably discourage everyone from ever going into melee with this species (and possibly f...

This is what the won't-do list has to say about dual wielding: Dual wielding - Likely way too tricky to balance - Would lead to annoying dilemmas But annoying dilemmas are now reflavored as meaningful strategic decisions and considered to be a fundamental aspect of Crawl, so maybe we'll get dual wie...

I knew I was on to something with my combining ions idea.

Lasty's point that immunities are a bad way to handle a threat is well-made, so before I figure out how to introduce a new species and do a hackneyed attempt at coding this, here are some alternative benefits to replace their immunity to movement-restricting status: - Bad status effects are delayed ...

I think we can achieve perfect balance by transforming elliptic into a caustic shrike and setting him loose on whoever disagrees with the direction taken with the game. I don't think anyone will voice any complaints once they see all the acid-eaten, rotting bodies impaled on elliptic's favorite tree.

I think the figurine is a very amusing escape option because it puts you into a ziggurat, which sometimes means that you forget about whatever you were trying to escape from and try to clear it. Which in turn means that, if you hit a mummy floor or angel floor or something and have to bail out, you ...

They could use a more menacing name too, like Stymphalian birds.

You can then put them in Shoals, since it's ~flavorful~ to have them in our designated Greek-themed branch.

Orbs of fire are incredibly strong too, but nobody complains about their difficulty because they're in a late game area and justify liberal use of consumables and god abilities to kill or avoid them. People don't die to caustic shrikes because they're unfairly strong, they die to caustic shrikes bec...

Everything else aside, it seems like it'd be a lot simpler to just divorce skills from XP entirely with this idea; you might as well hand out a skill level every even level instead. Maybe that'd be more broken than this already seems like it would be, but still. Good idea, sounds reasonable to star...

How is adding a new mutation better than just increasing all the aptitudes by ~2.34, which does the same thing? Can you increase aptitudes beyond +5? That was the idea, giving you Sprint-like skill advancement that cuts off completely once you transition into the midgame. But yes, they may well sta...

Small alchemical constructs that learn fast but cannot truly master any skill. Homunculi are constructs resembling small humanoids with disproportionally large (and deceptively strong) limbs, created through alchemical rituals and typically employed to guard the study of their master. They have a n...

Alternate proposal: If the enemy is backed to a wall/another enemy, GCs deal extra damage by squishing them against each other a la Force Lance. Unlike Force Lance, GCs don't push back the enemy if there's empty space behind it.

Find a wall and get on with your melee doublezap!

oh my god, when people say "nitrogen is an asphyxiant" they don't mean that if you breathe in some nitrogen, you choke and die. it means that it's a gas that isn't toxic, but also isn't oxygen, so if you breathe it instead of oxygen, you die from asphyxiation. the amount of asphyxiation d...

Actually, they are "hell ions". We should therefore have regular ions, which combine like slime creatures but gain different powers depending on the ions in the conglomerate. Oxygen ion makes the compound inner flamed, nitrogen ion lets it deal asphyxiation damage, fluorine ion gives it a ...

When you attack an ice block, it should slide off towards the direction you pushed it, hitting anything on its path for ice damage and destroying itself in the process (but monsters still have to attack and break the block because there are no arcades in the dungeon and they never played Snow Bros)....

Well, let's put it like this: Assume that you want to worship Jiyva and don't want to do one of the easy god switches in the midgame. It is then optimal but incredibly tedious to startscum for slime temple/an early Jiyva altar. Crawl development places strong emphasis on removing optimal but tedious...

There's this idea that Jiyva is balanced around the fact that it's a late-game god, which is true, and that it therefore has no business being a zealot/temple god, which is false. Early game Jiyva is strong but not optimal, and a player wanting to worship it early on can scum for slime temple, so th...

it's actually easy, little known fact: if you greatrole or greatrace something you get its powers irl

nobody knows what happens if you greatrace human, these who did remain silent and among others the very idea is spoken in hushed tones

dpeg wrote:Do you guys ever get tired of this?

Of what, spoofing 1984? No, of course not.

That said, I was making fun of duvessa's take on what Crawl should be. I don't think this is what Crawl currently is, or where the dev team intends to take it.

If anything, he should be insulted by it.

in duvessa's perfect vision of purity crawl is no longer tha game we know, it's a big small, featureless, empty white room with a single jackal in it, looking at you. We shall abolish the concept of fun. Our devs are at work upon it now. There will be no play, except play towards optimal survival. ...

but why New players could be confused into scumming for non-existent necromancy draconians because there is implied symmetry between them and dragons. Therefore the lack of bone draconians is spoilery and should be eliminated from the game (or else rename draconians to something that has no relatio...

He's fine as is, but I guess it'd also be okay if his no-poly-to-human gimmick was removed and he/Kirke hogs became neutral if they happened to polymorph into one. "Spoilery" things actually aren't when knowing them would never influence your decisions, or else things like the Trog book bu...

large-sized
fast 2
herbivore 3
hooves 3
hp +20%, mp +10%
good at dodging, spellcasting, hexes/charms/tloc/tmut, bad at fighting/necro/elemental schools (like real horses)
can only wear bardings, amulets, rings
centaur, felid, spriggan removed from the game

I would have liked this more if half these guys didn't actually explain why they're proposing these changes.

Sorry, but it has been decided that fun is not what a hypothetically optimal player should be having. All instances of fun and fun-encouraging gameplay will therefore be removed in the next version, and all players found to have "fun" of any description will be executed to the ninth degree...

how would you like a 10% chance to instantly die for no reason when you first enter the depths? I'd like that, as long as the death is sufficiently entertaining. Instant deaths are rarely fun, best deaths are these where you try everything in your arsenal and still can't come out on top. If Depths ...

Crawl, like most roguelikes, is fundamentally a game about dealing with the RNG. Therefore I don't think I'd like any change that decreases the randomness of the game. Yes, including D1 jackal packs and such that can theoretically create unwinnable situations (but pretty much never did in practice)....

All that said, Beogh will stay, exclusively for orcs. This is, I reckon, the third time I'm asking, and I don't think I'll get an answer at this point, but do let me try again: Why? It can't be gameplay because exclusive Beogh is almost unarguably worse design than non-exclusive Beogh, it can't be ...

new race: hilltain dworc
aptitudes: talk like mountain dwarf, taste like hill orc ("this raw flesh tastes great!")

Speaking of pissing off dpeg and making the game better, when is Beogh's silly "you have to play this not-too-remarkable race to access this god" limit being removed?

Proposal: Introduce elemental torments. Firetorment halves HP if you lack rF (and still does damage if you have it, 35% damage at rF+++), Icetorment if you lack rC, regular Torment if you lack rN; and Irontorment can't be resisted but is reduced by AC.

FR: Rename all mummies as albatrosses (and bennu to sacred albatross), reflavor tomb as a sunken ship infested with an undead albatross flock, change anubis guards to humans that yell pirate-themed one-liners to alert each other (they're immune to torment because they're too boozed up on rum to feel...

When that controversy exploded in my face, I took a step back and started talking to actual, honest-to-god women and men (not all familiar with Crawl). I learned a lot about online communication from the experience. I appreciate that you realized when you've been erring, sought to improve yourself ...

The one problem with poly wand is that it's really spoily -- some targets it's almost an OHKO, but against others it's suicide. Proposal: Polymorph wand turns the target into another monster that can spawn on the same floor, so you can get hydra -> black mamba and Gastronok -> spiny frog but not hy...

Thank you for hunger being simultaneously a thing but not a thing, such that I have to keep some permafood in my limited inventory So you mean it's a ~meaningful decision~ to determine whether to take food or battle-related consumables? a thing that pointlessly limits and then kills my character. C...

I'm glad the spider sodomy god has become an integral part of crawl lore.

The annoying thing about dipping into Necromancy as a VM is that it makes you realize Poison Magic's "good early offense offset by late resistances" and "very effective against a subset of monsters, but falters against the rest" gimmicks are done much, much better by that school....

I can't imagine telling a player new to the game that it's got a mechanic where random bad things sometimes happen to you for no reason when you move and getting anything but an extremely negative response. But that mechanic already exists in the game, and is called "monsters". I don't se...

It could be annoying (though flavorful) to literally herd your yak horde around, so I propose that the race gets an XP-gated ability to give birth to a swarm of sheep/yaks/death yaks (depending on XL) on the spot. They could also lay yak eggs that hatch in 2-4 turns if instant yak herds seem too han...

It just occurs to me that this could make an amazingly ridiculous marriage proposal.

In fact, I'm not entirely sure that image isn't one. What's your answer, gammafunk?

new evocable item, mercenary pact evoke to summon a mercenary (naga/merfolk minimum, no big kobolds) evoke again while your mercenary is not on-screen to recall it evoke again while your mercenary is on-screen to dismiss it when you dismiss your mercenary, it gets "stored" in your pact and...

Sar wrote:catoblepases/catoblepae/whatever

Catoblepones.

A group of catoblepones is called a lethargy.

dynast wrote:nobody can dominate the conversation, nobody can tell others to shut up and, to top it off, we have mods to regulate things

I agree with you, but I also enjoy how this pretty much reads "nobody can tell others to shut up and, to top it off, we have mods to tell others to shut up".

I very much encourage this thread's readers to check out this interesting NYT article "The effort to cure autism, they say, is not like curing cancer, but like the efforts of a previous age to cure left-handedness." Actually, I'd say that autism is a lot like cancer in that it's not a sin...

FR: a portal that scrambles your keys and puts you in the midst of a ton of monsters, so that you have to type around trying to identify your z key only to find that your spells are scrambled too.

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