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I'm still not sure plutonians need a special interaction with mutations, particularly given all their other special interactions - right now the focus should be on removing bloat, not making them more complication. If glow hunger works best with spells that you could just give plutonians higher spel...

I've been having trouble with Thorn Hunters on characters of mine which make it to the Swamp. (specifically SpEns) Their long range attack cuts off large chunks of my HP, and the fact they're MR Immune means I can't use Hexes. Briar Patches normally don't disrupt my escape routes but occasionally pr...

-Change their starting contamination to 7500 so they aren't so close to meltdown. -Change meltdown to always rot the same amount of hp, probably 3 or 4. I'll do those. The other proposals I implemented where the necro apt change and the Overload contam change. Hmm, I think power curves are worth di...

-Change base stats to 9 in each category, but reduce xp to -1. (I have a long justification for this if anyone wants to hear it.) I would like to hear this long justification. All other changes sound fine. I'll make the ones I suggested. EDIT: Actually, I'll make the 1000 contam for overload change...

A couple immediate changes I would like to make, I thought about them before and talking with somebody playing the experimental made me more sure about them: * Remove all levels of no device heal, it doesn't really work on this species. * Make the plutonian safe level 2 for contam (File200 said I co...

An Experimental Plutonians branch has been set up on cbro. You can now play Plutonians on that server! (Webtiles: http://crawl.berotato.org/)

tedric wrote:Do you want bug reports here too? Not sure if it's appropriate to use Mantis for experimental branches or what, they don't show up in the bug report page drop-downs.

Mantis should be fine for bugs in experimental branches.

Arrhythmia wrote:Branch distinctly owns.

It's certainly pulling its weight.

The idea was to limit access to necromutation, which would change the dynamic of the species. I don't really follow your logic here, how do you think banning Necromutation would effect the species? Either way, this isn't really the kind of balancing which should be done at this point. Just letting ...

I really hope someone takes this back up. (I know, easy for me to say as a non-coder.) I like the current smith god on the CSZO branch a lot and think it could become a great god option with a bit more work. The big thing would be updating and merging. I tried updating smith god once: Auto-merging ...

I have updated File200's work to Trunk and pushed it to a branch, plutonians. Like with new_nemelex, you can compile locally with the command:

Code:: git checkout -b plutonians origin/plutonians

from master and compile. Play testing feedback is welcome!

duvessa wrote:Oozes are much better monsters than worms.

I'm guessing the reason you think this is oozes are speed 8 and worms are speed 6. Is that correct?

File200: It's kinda hard to tell what to do when we're hearing about this second hand. If you put a patch up on mantis I can push it to a branch and at least people will be able to pull and compile locally, and might even be able to get an experimental branch set up on the servers. This would also a...

Yes this is also way too similar to poison, I was considering adding "and I'm considering removing lethality from poison so it will always leave you at 1 hp." to my previous post.

Poison only works OK now because it's not used every fight.

This might save you, but it might also just delay your inevitable doom if you are missing the means to heal before you take on full damage. I don't like this idea because of what happens at the end: You either use some healing effect (which isn't a decision) or you just die (which is an even worse ...

There, Shedu are dead.

I'm surprised by how many people say they dislike Ophanim, they weren't really on my radar as a possibly problematic holy.

I was casting regeneration an aura of abjuration mostly, although I had been trying to get a few more spells online before I made the terrible decision to get out and win with only 4 runes :) Also used it to dispel undead a couple of ancient liches near the end. They go poof. Nice to know it's poss...

Phoenixes have already been removed from the game.

Any thoughts on Apis?

{Mod Edit: Split off discussion from CYC thread and moved to GDD, upon request. — a_i} (I know shedu, probably the worst offender, are being removed, but they weren't the only awful monster there). I would like to hear your feedback on which other monsters are not working, since currently developmen...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-762-g020cafc (webtiles) character file. reaver the Spry (Spriggan Enchanter) Turns: 71453, Time: 05:54:28 HP 36/82 AC 16 Str 7 XL: 16 Next: 95% MP 26/37 EV 19 Int 18 God: Gozag Gold 11145 SH 15 Dex 16 Spells: 7 memorised, 14 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis ...

I tried the Nemelex sprint branch on CSZO, and got to the end of its Orc lane with no piety from Nemelex but got a deck of war from killing bears (so I don't think they dropped it). Is the piety multiplier missing ? Sorry, Exploration Piety has never worked in Sprint IIRC. (i.e. it's a problem with...

Command line options: -seed <num> init the rng to a given sequence (a hex number > 0) The functionality has existed for a while (for debugging purposes mainly, and I don't think it actually worked properly until pretty recently). It's been used a bit for testing bots, but not for much other than th...

I don't claim that I know that it is, but that's all that occurs to me attempting to stretch for a reason that it might not have been implemented. More likely though it's because "no-one felt like it" It also doesn't work well with either weapon (Ely) or item (Nem) saracifices. If somebod...

By combining all nem cards into a single deck, do you mean shuffling all decks of the same type together like other people have mentioned, or making it so there is only a single type of deck that Nemelex gives that has all types of cards? Nemelex now gifts exclusively decks of war, which contain mo...

Rather than further editing my post: 78291 has made further changes. Mainly, new cards, combining all Nem cards into a single deck, and changing peek at two to be incompatible with other Nemelex changes. None of these changes are final, but most of them look great. Also CBRO has the experimental new...

and into wrote:In short, explicitly adding berserk after haste in the description would be an improvement.

Done. Thank you.

I didn't add Finesse because Berserk isn't just a god ability. It's on potions, amulets, artifacts, bears, etc.

The Exploration piety thing has been implemented by N78291 and pushed to a branch. If there's a few more changes (N78291 may or may not be working on more) we might be able to get an experimental new_nemelex branch set up. You can also download the branch locally and compile yourself, if you want. A...

Sar wrote:unfr: "of the Doge", please?

yes I know about Venetian doges

Done

crate's post is very good, and some time in the next week or so Nemelex will probably be switched to Ash-like Exploration piety, removing piety both from item sacrifices and decks. (MarvinPA suggested Exploration fit better than Kills.) Removing Nemelex may not happen, but at this point it's definit...

This has been fixed in Trunk, by the way.

I'm pretty sure most people do the Tomb after Zot, at least 1-4, so this doesn't really follow the "early game monster" thing. That said, Sar brings up a good point that this would take people by surprise. I would wait until the current Tomb changes have been resolved/considered before exp...

My idea on monsters and floor loot: When the level is generated, before the player gets a single turn on the level, any items within 20 tiles or so of a monster can be moved into it's inventory. Then, make it impossible for monsters to pick things up after the player has entered the level. This lets...

I like Remorse, giving all enemies death curses is neat i hope this is a joke, because the existing enemies that have death curses are problematic precisely because they have death curses (independent of the actual effects the death curses cause) I'll just admit that in retrospect that comment was ...

It is true that there is a lack of bad mutations. Sometime in the next couple weeks I'm going to make Vinestalker's no device heal mutation a normal bad mutation with 2 levels.

Mana leak looks interesting if done right but it has the "less energetic" problem it only applies to mages.

Edited/updated the OP. Left in some of the (fairly) recently removed species and backgrounds, with a note, though if people think I should take those out, let me know. Added VS and Fo, and changed Grotesk --> Gargoyle. I would add a "removed species and backgrounds" section. Also I would ...

Rather trying to untangle the various modifications and decide exactly what is being proposed at this point, I'll just give my one major problem: Plenty of people in this thread have said "Ability X should not be added to the game because it makes the player do Y which isn't fun" I have no...

It was just a couple of days ago, so I guess you didn't miss anything :) What? There was a huge party to celebrate reaver's ascension the other night. Lots of great food, cake, some craft brews and whiskey. Smash Mouth played a double set. I thought you were there? No one invited me :cry: Don't wor...

Stupid question, have you tried deleting ability.o and (I think the other file is called ability.r?) and trying again? Not a stupid question at all. Trying it now.. build seems to be going smoothly! Although, the pull did also update a bunch of other files, so I guess its possible someone had a typ...

Klown wrote:What skills does reaver bring to the table?

programmer? Art?

Programming minor refactorings, a couple bug fixes.
(Note the last few of those are from after I was made a dev, because it just streamlines the process so much.)

There was an excellent discussion on this around 6 months back Major points from crate, an excellent player, (with some edits to make it more readable without context): There are some times where doing elf is ok, but you should always be looking for something specific that you are likely to find in...

MrPlanck wrote:In fact, after you get past the early game they seem quite formidable.

and if Sif Muna hated magic she would be Trog.

treerex5 wrote:They made it.

Several old posts in this thread were made after Formicids went in.

I still haven't seen anybody address this post of mine from the thread Bcadren just Necro'd**: After some thought, I believe that the whole "involuntary switch between two forms" things fails as a concept, and this is why: If the player prefers their current form to their future form, then...

TeshiAlair wrote:"Let's nerf Formicids again"

I'm confused. What are you perceiving as a Formicid nerf?

I habitually carry quite a bit of food, mostly out of paranoia. But specifically I am about to enter a Labyrinth, and figure I will be burning through a chunk of that trying to get out. I'm pretty sure you can enter a Labyrinth with 3 rations and never ever have to even think about food. Just pick ...

Getting Haste/Invis from an enemy can happen, but the Piety and Contam costs should discourage scumming an enemy for it. I don't think so: Get an orc wizard with Haste. Lure it to the opposite side of a staircase with scary enemies on the other side. Counter Cast until you get a buff. Kill scary en...

Seems easier to just generate some harpy skeletons instead. Well then it wouldn't have the interesting "Kill the unique -> Harpies swarm you a bit less" dynamic. I don't think this is a good enough idea on it's own to support a unique, but maybe if it was combined with something else it w...

The +7 Double Sword {flaming/freezing, AC+5}, base type bastard sword. Recycle the old double sword tile for its appearance. Hit v while wielding to alternate between freezing brand or flaming brand. Always gives AC+5, as if it had an innate protection brand as well. It would be awful to have to pr...

Since some people seem to be taking this proposal seriously: Librarian as a statue would be awful except in vaults. However, Librarians are awful anyway since Silent Specteres already exist and giving them melee would not be much better. Worse yet, Silent Spectere spawn in the Crypt! Scroll Golem wo...

Berserkitis is not good for Cj, so I suppose !cureMut first, then benemut. If you had been a plain fighter, I concider it's better to keep berserkitis. No that's absolutely incorrect, berserkitis is "cure now or die" on a fighter but arguably possible to manage on caster. This management ...

The flavor's awesome. Maybe we could have previews for Slime, or Vaults, too. The point of that vault is that it tells you which Lair branches you are going to get. In this case treerex5 is ensured to have the Swamp and the Spider's Nest as his Lair branches if he survives to see them. (This is pos...

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