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On the subject of stairs and colorblindness, does anyone else have problems telling hatches apart from used (green) staircases in console?

I think it's neat that the no poison chunk change makes the poison branch rune an actual decision for certain builds. I would question how interesting of a strategic decision is one that forces me to delay entering a branch that I'm strong enough for but can't sustain in, and then go back to it whe...

You forgot the worst of them all: shock serpents.

rF++, 53 AC and 300 HP is absolute luxury for Zot. You really don't need any more fire resistance.

Jeremiah wrote:when worshipping Makhleb, when a monster is killed by damage from the singularity I do not regain HP as I would if I killed the monster myself.

Why does Makhleb care who killed what anyway?

I sealed my fate by trying to find a HW wand at zigg, which i consider a core item for a extended vampire run, that or worshipping makhleb. Not that it has anything to do with the topic at hand, but do you realize that switching to Makhleb and surviving Okawaru's wrath would have been far, far easi...

Jeff wrote:If your summons damage the enemy and you get the kill, how much XP is awarded? I try to get the last hit when possible, but this may just be a superstitious waste of effort.

It was changed to be proportional to the damage you dealt. Getting the last hit doesn't matter anymore.

The answer, as with everything in Crawl, is: scum the Abyss.

Turukano wrote:
asdu wrote:If I manage to fuck this one up, I swear I'm uninstalling Crawl for good.

Shall I put this to famous last words?

Thankfully this is an offline game so I can just lie about it

(the mace is real, though!)

HOLY. SHIT. I think I've just found the best randart ever generated in a DCSS game. N - the +11 great mace "Tasu Thra" {vamp, +Rage rF++ MR+} To make it even more sweet, I've found this in Lair:4 on a DDNe speedrun. If I manage to fuck this one up, I swear I'm uninstalling Crawl for good.

Currently, Makhleb's HP for kills only works if your character scores the last hit on the enemy. In the case of collateral kills from allies, regardless of how much damage the ally has actually contributed, you get nothing. In cases where Makhleb's heal was important to my survival (or when playing ...

and into wrote:I'm not sure if new draining lowers the experience you get from an enemy

It doesn't.

If you use a shield you'll lose your offhand auxiliary attack. On an unarmed character, that can be a pretty significant source of damage (unlike other aux attacks, offhand punches scales with UC skill). Still, trolls have crazy damage output anyway thanks to their claws, and their defenses suck. I'...

Pff, casuals

Code:: 5474 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 5479 | D:11 | Noticed a lich

Sar wrote:why is trbe bad???

Because you'd be wasting the Trog start on the race with the strongest early game of all, I guess.

Same game as last post:

Code:: q - +10 lajatang of a labyrinth {antimagic, +Blink rF+ MR++ Dex+3}

I'm a vine stalker T_T

a - +5 pair of gloves of the Lost Places {Slay+4} A Gauntlets of War prototype. Strangely enough, prior to finding these, I was wearing another pair of randart gloves with +4 slaying (and MR++), but they had -1 enchantment. I was idly wondering what gloves I would have switched those out for, and w...

http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/asdu/asdu.txt My fastest first rune ever (8.5k turns), but now I'm scared of going forward. The second Lair rune would be Shoals, but I'm very wary of going there, especially since my only source of flight is a single potion. My previous best online speedrun atte...

Makhleb's your ranged backup option.

Well, the game doesn't really need to help you when you make bad choices. If switching weapon types is a bad choice by definition, then why is there crosstraining at all? More importantly, though, why does it have to be a bad choice? I'm familiar with the idea that the only choices that matter are ...

But... why? I think that, aside from some silly scenarios where it was more efficient to train a skill with a large positive aptitude in order to crosstrain to a skill with a worse aptitude, crosstraining worked well. This new system seems pretty useless in practice (aside from the very early game w...

(Twisted res is probably actually still stupidly strong right now, though as always the spell is "balanced" by making it excruciatingly tedious) (Responding in part to your post in the Buff spells thread): Note that, while they still doen't have interlevel recall, abominations don't have ...

So you're suggesting that formicids should have on-demand might and a 50% hp boost for the cost of half a chunk's worth of satiation? But I guess that according to your logic, that's already the case for all races, since the slow doesn't actually matter.

How the hell did that even happen? I figured "OgIE, dies of starvation in the middle of a fight: clearly too many icicles/ice beasts". Nope. Throw icicle and summon ice beast weren't even memorized. Wat.

A licky boom-boom down

Some rods are very useful for specific builds (deflect missiles on a berserker who can't cast it any other way) Does the rod of warding even exist in 0.14? I thought one of the reason most rods were changed in recent versions was that the ones with multiple spells were not considered good interface...

I'll give that a try, GlassGo. Sounds interesting. Any advice for would-be transmuters? Most forms (spider and ice form do for sure, I guess dragon and statue do too) disable your anti-magic bite which means you can't drain MP to fuel your guardian shield, so play very conservatively until you have...

"Of parts unknown" is just a randomized name for artefacts. And no, it's definitely not worth switching to, although if your inventory allows it, it may be worth keeping around for when you happen upon a pool of water with electric eels in it (not a big deal, but sometimes they spawn in ve...

learndb wrote:when I first started playing I met some Japanese players who were remarkably better than anyone I've seen play, to this day, and they said that Demigod Wanderers were so easy to ascend with that they classified runs as DgWn runs and Non-DgWn runs

It's on the learndb so it must be true.

Base damage and attack delay (apparently bat form has a bonus to attack delay) are similar with maxed UC skill (while a quick blade only requires 8 levels of short blades), but you get no extra damage from brand and no slaying unless you happen to be wearing an amulet with slaying bonus. So overall ...

I'd say blurry vision is the worst mutation only because there's no countermeasure for it. Teleportitis without stasis and berserkitis without stasis/clarity are more dangerous, IMO (also teleportitis, regardless of how dangerous it is, is a game ender for me because I simply can't stand the annoyan...

Oh, I think I get it. The plus sign in (0.4*spell power + 4 slaying) doesn't signify a sum (which would make no sense), it just the way slaying bonuses are expressed. So max(0, ceiling(mutlevel*(2*hp - maxhp)/maxhp) is multiplied by 0.4*spellpower to obtain the spellpower bonus and by 4 to obtain th...

Can someone help me understand the formula for augmentation? The learndb says it's max(0, ceiling(mutlevel*(2*hp - maxhp)/maxhp))*(0.4*spell power + 4 slaying) but I have no clue what that means. First of all, how does ceiling() work? Even more perplexingly, what the hell is the deal with the (0.4*s...

request corpses is absolutely amazing in extended. Well, it's nearly useless in Slime, but in Tomb , Abyss, Pan, and Hell, it'll regularly give you giants and dragons. Was this changed (somewhat) recently? I once played a vampire of Kiku and all I could get in Tomb were useless trapdoor spider corp...

@ Siegurt: Much obliged :) it is not hard to compile it yourself. it can be scary at first, but after you get the hang of it is pretty rewarding. like crawl. Yeah, I've done it in the past (other stuff, not DCSS) and, from what I remember, setting up the whole operation, learning the basics and figu...

Does anyone happen to have a post-March 6th compiled build they're willing to put on a file sharing site? The most recent archived trunk build is from February 26th.

Polearms 27 gives bigger bonus to accuracy than +9 weapon enchantment when comparing to Polearms 0. My point was that accuracy is always important as you can see in results vs Orb of Fire, it is wrong to say that it is not important after middle game. I must be misreading those tables, because to m...

I have next to no experience with auto skill training (basically, the only times I've ever used it was when I forgot to switch to manual, which is always my first action whenever I start a new game), but I'm fairly confident it does a better job of allocating XP than the average new and unspoiled pl...

Have you heard about other weapon classes, such as long blades, which are also better than axes? The point I was trying to make on several occasion was that 1) axes don't only compare badly with maces & flails but with other weapon classes as well (most certainly long blades whether you prefer ...

Honestly, just nerf maces. -1 damage for both morningstars and great maces. Ta-da! Balance restored.

Unarmed skill adds directly to the base damage but UC doesn't benefit from the skill's bonus to base damage ( * 1 + (1dSkill)/25 ) unlike weapons (I think the similar but slightly smaller bonus from the fighting skill still applies, but I'm not positive). Note that the bonus damage from weapon skill...

You've probably just gotten lucky in not getting any ice fiends, unless I've somehow completely screwed things up. It's more that I haven't seen an ice cave in Vaults, Elf or deep dungeon in a really long time, to the point that I forgot those even existed. I only see them in Lair or at a comparabl...

I'm not sure what the point of this passage is. You are very unlucky if you don't find a morningstar by D:12 after doing Orc. You are also very unlucky if you don't find a scimitar by the same point in time; they're far from vanishingly rare. I guess the point is that scimitars mostly exist as floo...

Just a little curiosity: I haven't seen an Ice fiend inside an ice cave in a long while, including in those maps where I'm sure they could be found. Have they been removed for good? If that's the case, I applaud the change.

On a tangentially related note, I remember reading somewhere that teleports in elf:3 were recently changed to make it more likely to land into the vault. Can anyone confirm this or was it just someone talking out of his ass?

Just... why? I don't think turning item destruction from an annoyance into an outright death sentence via a highly illogical an arbitrary mechanic is a solution to any of its percieved problems. In fact those problems are not only completely unaddressed, but actually severly exacerbated, since now c...

Almost. Sigh. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-1076-gee4852e (tiles) character file. 412928 999 the Executioner (level 22, -16/218 HPs) Began as a Deep Dwarf Berserker on Nov 27, 2013. Was the Champion of Trog. Killed from afar by an ancient lich (76 damage) ... with an iron shot ... on Leve...

That 6000 turn possibility is what makes the abyss so terrifying and what makes an early exit that much more satisfying. I almost broke out into tears of joy when I found an early exit in the abyss super early on(I was getting amazing drops). That sounds like good gameplay to me. The 6000 turn poss...

Ugh, I just experienced the guardian serpent's newfound ability to recall allies. Now, I'd be fine with change in itself, but with the rune lock in place I really don't think making Snake:5 even harder is warranted. Btw, since I wasn't paying close attention to messages when it happened, does it wor...

Do they sever hydra heads?

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