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If you play on console (ssh to the server), all the shafts look like "^". That would also solve the problem. (Yes, I have a vendetta against webtiles on rougelikes)

Onget, if you don't like tab, then play a mage background. As a bonus, I find most conjuror-type backgrounds (Cj, FE, IE, even Wz, etc) are quite capable of killing Sigmund after D3. Mages play differently enough that the early game doesn't always feel the same.

The devs went on a zealot purge awhile back, with most zealots removed because of the reasons in the OP. The remaining zealots are all there for a reason. Be for easy mode, CK for Xom challenge mode, AK for unique game style, as finding Lugonu in D is rare.

In my experience, Sif's channeling is more useful after a fight than during a fight. Sif's channeling is pretty weak turn-wise and gives enemies lots of extra turns to hit you. When playing a squishy caster, it's much safer to retreat than give enemies 2-3 free hits. Per fireball. Which you might ne...

Playing a caster of sif is pretty easy, it's just tedious. A lot of running away from fights to regain mp.

I figure physical (or more correctly "unbranded") damage is more powerful than any other kind of damage. Because nothing resists it. Don't claim AC resists it because AC resists all types of damage. Unbranded damage is particularly more powerful in the lategame where resistances are everyw...

Sorry but I have to disagree. If you wan't to sit around for 50,000 turns on L:1 that is your problem. Again we should not fuck over everybody because somewhere between a microscopic minority and nobody at all might do stupid things. Hell I don't care if most people do it. That is there problem. Pl...

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Corpses are no longer butcherable. Monsters drop chunks as well as corpses on death. Something can be worked out for vampires.

The difference between mountain dwarfs and pillar dancing, which you neglected to mention, is that there is are many alternatives to mountain dwarves other than unavoidable death. The alternative to pillar dancing is dying! The devs want to remove things that are tedious but optimal. I agree with th...

Anyway, I'm in the camp that thinks a correctly designed rougelike should idealy be winnable no matter what the game throws at you. Yes, you occasionally get nethack's gnome-with-the-wand-of-death, but those should be very, very rare.

The arguments I'm hearing about removing pillar dancing seem odd to me. The proponents seem to be claiming that having pillar dancing being possible in the game somehow detracts from their enjoyment of it. There is a simple solution to this problem: If you don't like pillar dancing, don't use it in ...

I'm currently running a HEFE and planning to give extended a try for the first time. Is it viable to use my enhancer staves as weapons? Maybe if I had a lajatang to swap to? Or should I not bother with staves and just use long blades?

Stairdancing is a common tactic used in all rougelikes with persistent levels.

The wiki page seemed out of date to me. I was playing Ds and got a "immune to corrosion" intrinsic that wasn't on the wiki's list.

When I play crawl online at craw.s-z.org the , key picks things up, like in nethack.

Special ability granted: "Quibble about details" - causes damage to opponent depending on how inconsistently designed they are: for example, OOD monsters take extra damage. Instantly kills stupid monsters like death cobs and curse toes. They should have this in Nethack. No, no, Nerd Trog ...

So, I've been playing around with SpEn^Dith lately. Everything's going fine, just wanted to ask for some advice on how to get the most out of Dith. Currently, I'm only really using his passives. Are Shadow Step and Shadow form any good? When have you used them? Edit: I haven't been training Invocati...

Because they're accuracy/power comes from your int and magic skills, not from your untrained melee skills

Because using a skill 0 weapon becomes useless mid-lair. And training the weapon skill doesn't actually increase survivability (thus sub-optimal) as it's only used to mop up in situations where you could just run away to regen MP.

"almost all characters should train a melee weapon" is completely wrong, though yes, almost all characters should pick one up since there is no downside to doing so! What characters do you think shouldn't train a melee weapon? characters that are better at killing monsters using things th...

This gives a weaponless mage another option other than run away. Running away just makes weaponless mages tedious to play, without actually adding any difficulty. Giving them the weak mele attack would reduce some of the tedium (killing monsters that were almost dead anyway) without breaking the gam...

Just wanted to point out that sub-optimal playstyles aren't necessarily hard. For example, it's actually quite easy to play a weaponless DECj. New players are quite capable of winning suboptimal characters if you give them the chance ;). Tell them it's suboptimal, but if they want to do it, they can...

Irradiate is useful for a Cj if you were stupid and got surrounded.

Force lance is also decent on a Cj-type character because you'd want to train both schools anyway and the breathing room very useful for squishy mages.

Don't forget Nethack's hallucination randomizes your inventory descriptions as well! Wouldn't that be fun in crawl! I have three ascensions and a few almosts under my belt and I never noticed that! Probably because I only quaff-ID'd potions in locked rooms on empty levels, and if I got hallu I just...

Whoever made the D2 4x4 vault chock full of bats, thank you. You made my day. I've literally never been afraid of bats before this, but I barely escaped with my skin after burning unidentified consumables. These should be more common.

Yeah, MiBe was too strong. Mindlessly tab-o'ed through the whole game. My Mf and Dr are making it to lair now. The DrWz "reaver" has been fun to play.

Don't forget Nethack's hallucination randomizes your inventory descriptions as well! Wouldn't that be fun in crawl!

Actually, in Nethack, hallucination was rather trivially solved by a common item, so it wasn't really all that nasty. But making 'Mislead' more common in Crawl might be interesting.

In that case, you could try a faster than normal race like Ce, Te, Sp, or I guess Fe--these generally have lower defenses that force you to run away more often, and you can get away with running even after you've put yourself in a dangerous situation because you're fast. I've thought of that, but I...

I think I'm dying with the melee characters because I don't know when to run away from a fight. With a DE mage, fights tend to be very bipolar: you either win or lose by a large margin. As soon as anything looks bad, you run because you're really flimsy and w/out mp become a sitting duck. Also, beca...

So, when I first started playing crawl, I played a bunch of conjurations-based mages. I got pretty decent with them and can win the game that way. Now I'm trying other types of builds and I've found I can't keep any of them alive past D5-7 or so. Are there any backgrounds/species combinations (other...

Playing a magic background relying only on summons or conjurations for damage is suboptimal, but doable and not too hard (imo). The first character I ascended was a DEIE of Sif Muna. If you really want a pure-mage for flavor reasons, you could try a DECj of Veh. Sif gives you access to more spells (...

ID game in nethack is the worst. What is good about dropping stuff in shops (multiple times, because for some reason the price is sometimes not the same, but it changes only determistically, so there is no point in having this "feature"), to figure out the price, and then in a spoilery wa...

Not a memory game, since you don't actually have to remember what description fits what. You can #name a class of items to remember what you've learned.

Are you asking what games (other than Crawl) have a good ID game? Or what could be done in crawl to make the ID game interesting? If the answer is the first, I feel NetHack does this very well. In that game, ID scrolls were less plentiful / you'd rather save them for rewriting later, and the ID game...

I don't see why a non-pure "blaster caster" would need lvl 9 spells in a 3 rune game. If conjurations is your only way of dealing damage, then sure it's necessary. Otherwise, that xp could be spent somewhere else to increase your character's survivability.

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Re: Remove the Lair vault that spawns a bunch of holes.

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viability of elemental staves

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Dith advice

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Thank you for crazy bat vault

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Good beginner background

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