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ydeve wrote:If you really want the food to mana thing, just give them an on demand channel ability with a hunger cost. Then there's less of the fiddling around with chunks nonsense.

Or perhaps mana on kill? Flavored as "able to absorb the spirits of their enemies?"

scott9027 wrote:
Hurricos wrote:Does anyone have any opinions about the actual specifics of the race?

They already have *MPRegen mechanic, so I don't think there's any reason to steal Vine Stalker's main mechanic as well. I'd just tweak the one mutation to desired effect.

What do you think about drawing MP from consuming chunks?

I hope we can get back to the topic on hand .... I am fully confident that with their high Int, great apts and excellent means of mana regeneration, these dudes will be great casters. Considering they have so many characteristics that are similar to other races' gimmicks, I'm thinking of actually at...

I think a lot of people are taking this post as a joke ... It's on cyc for a reason, but that's not because it's a joke ... It's because it's farfetched.

I genuinely believe that if these gimmicks and aptitudes are put together, they'd make a solid (if very strange) racial makeup.

you have to be alive to cast. duvessa, well, trolls are better because they are impossible to lose with if you are paying attention, not as casters specifically. so are centaurs. do you think Nagas are better than ogres at casting? the slow movement makes them too vulnerable, and impossible to kite...

EDIT: I do think there's a place for a large caster race; high HP, high MP, but otherwise low defenses and probably bad at melee. naga Na have some of the best defenses of any caster, owing to their scales PLUS barding PLUS good shield usability (15 Shields to remove large shield penalty? Yes pleas...

Moon trolls make great AEs because their natural environment, the moon, has so much air you know to practise with. You ever seen a moon tornado, son? I reckon not, seeins how your livin an breathin today. Keep it in context: Crawl's Moon has air on it, seeing as Lehudib's Moon Base is a thing and y...

also, we already have a giant race that can cast, Ogres. Don't kid yourself. Ogres make worse casters than Centaurs. Their across-the-board average aptitude is better than only two races: Minotaurs and Trolls. so what? you don't need to cast level 9 spells. their aptitudes are perfectly ok to cast ...

tabstorm wrote:"Know what would be a good idea?"
"What?"
"If we put Gh, DD, VS, and Tr into one race but then made it really bad."
"Sounds good."

Sure, except the bad part. If you throw this many racial gimmicks at the wall at once, it's as sure to stick as gum to a desk.

Hirsch I wrote:also, we already have a giant race that can cast, Ogres.

Don't kid yourself. Ogres make worse casters than Centaurs. Their across-the-board average aptitude is better than only two races: Minotaurs and Trolls.

The moon sure is a magical place. Hold on, they have no hp boost or no hp at all? Of course, they have OHP. That's because the surface's atmosphere is absolutely toxic to them. They get all their not-dying from their mana. That's why it's so important. Jokes aside, 0HP just means they have a Hu-lik...

Dear god, we've come full circle :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: More on topic, why do trolls have to be terrible with bows? http://img0.joyreactor.cc/pics/comment/%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%8C-%D0%BD%D0%...

duvessa wrote:Dear god, we've come full circle

No, they're actually quite bad at summoning.

Discovered on the Moon long ago by the earth mage Lehudib, Moon Trolls are an ancient race of hairy lunar brutes that are significantly more sophisticated than their earthly cousins. Like normal Trolls, they are large (Large), razor-clawed (Claws 1), and have a voracious appetite (Gourm, Metab 3, no...

MainiacJoe wrote:Please forgive me, but I'm not sure what you're talking about. I gather it's a new commit, but TBH I don't know where to look for these.

Here is the git, and here is the particular change I am referring to in the post.

The removal of curse scrolls and subsequent rebalance is a gigantic debuff for Ashenzari, a god that is already well-known for being difficult to gain piety with early on. With how hard it was already to get your possessions cursed, this just takes the cake. A better rebalance would have been to mak...

ZipZipskins wrote:Sir Neil and Sir Hurricos
Poetry-schmoetry
I'm feeling bellicose
My name is Zip.

You clowns on the tavern are
Characteristically
Trite and pedestrian
Thus ends my quip.

That's seven syllables on the first line ...
HUR*RI*COS

tabstorm wrote:Necromutation to level 7 has been suggested at least 100 times. It will never happen.

Food being removed has been suggested a thousand times. I don't see any changes yet. Your logic is not particularly sound TS ...

I still like the idea of being immune to hostile enchantments.

Namely, Statue Form and Necromutation, to L5/7. With the removal of Stoneskin, Statue Form is now terrible, and Necromutation ha been too high for a long time. That, or, buff them: Statue's AC should scale better with power, and Necromutation should block all hostile enchantments (as all other Ls ar...

To be fair, I failed to assemble A melodic, lilting strain; But at this one, you will tremble For real strength I cannot feign. You've arrived here to lambaste My somewhat dubious attempt But your time to chide has passed, I do know where to place accent. You've all fallen to my trap, A spider's we...

Verbosity and victory rhyme even less than form and worm. :P They actually rhyme more. It's just not a deep rhyme. Verbosity and victory like monarchy and shooting spree. Your rhymes are syllabic, the next thing to weak 'Cause your smoking's cannabic, you're far past your peak. You need more direct...

ydeve wrote:Verbosity and victory rhyme even less than form and worm.

They actually rhyme more. It's just not a deep rhyme.

Verbosity and victory like monarchy and shooting spree.

"Form" and "worm" don't rhyme. Get the hell out of here. Not with that attitude, they don't. But you just follow your own wont. Perhaps you'll see the light of day When you finally see this pronunciation my way But until then you're stuck in the black, Facing with rash fearlessn...

Spider form
Spider form
Kills an ogre
Like it kills a worm

But can you stab?
Yes you can
But it's bad
Few !s are had

LOOK OOUT
I WANT SPIDER STABS

It's funny watching all of these greaters go by and realizing "oh, that was me."

I gotta find something better to do with my time

I literally can't think of a single good argument for requiring digging to get the rune. Anecdotes about Ru worshipers luring deep troll earth mages to slime pits are funny to hear about but sound annoying in practice, and most of the time you either have a wand of digging on you (so needing it isn...

bcadren wrote:Maybe permanent PProj or a larger damage boost (like aforementioned Dark Maul)? I do agree it's trash now. Is it worth saving though?

Sure. Unrands are meant to be interesting.

Missing happens enough that I think it would be a well-deserved buff.

It is a Triple crossbow, not an arbalest. (Spriggans can't use it.)

The unrand +15 "heavy crossbow" Sniper {velocity, SInv} has a mindelay of 1.3~1.4 at 27 Crossbows, at the base damage of a Triple crossbow (making it significantly worse than a normal Triple). Triples aren't exactly hard to get during any given game, and any Triple would be better than Sni...

kuniqs wrote:Teleport would be a neat ability at 1* piety, when teleport scrolls are scarce. At high levels, players would rather use the wand, which at least works while silenced...

Would it be better to make it instant, or to make it a lower piety level?

Basically, Kiku for Translocations. Nexus is the God of Portals, and grants worshipers the power to be everywhere and nowhere at all through the study of Translocation, offering them access to texts on the subject as they gain favor. The success rate of active abilities is governed by the user's Tra...

Acid is pretty functionally similar to pure energy, considering so few monsters actually have resistance to it. (I'm looking at you, OOFs, Hell sentinels ...)

... so why not give the most bummed out Dr a buff?

!lg comborobin deae splat -tv.

Don't fuck with ettins.

Monkeys. Yep! Simians are a race of quickly evolving sapient primates that have made a civilization and culture for themselves over the last few thousand years. Shapeshifting and Kung-fu masters, they are exceptionally good at Unarmed Combat, Fighting and Transmutations, but nevertheless are accepta...

If you need mana, you need mana

Oh, so you can spam Sif channel midfight and eat AFTER you're done?

Sounds good to me as a strategic-purpose item TBH.

IMO the cleanest and most lateral fix would just put the lost properties (Stasis, Clar, Warding, rMut) onto 'trinkets' or 'charms' that always keep their effect whenever carried.

Honestly, part of me thinks channeling is unredeemable. I feel like if the current dev team were to design magic from scratch, they probably wouldn't balance it around the idea that most characters would tap a button for more mid-battle mp by the midgame. Maybe there's some good mechanical replacem...

... and be used while confused.

Because seriously, dying to a single tarantella is stupid, and with "clar gone, it's gonna be happening a whole lot more.

Most Elf:3 vaults can still be killholed with laughable ease if you're an EE and have at least ######.... LRD / enough AC to tank a couple of your own blasts :lol: RE: discussion about removing player sources of digging and killholing .... No. Don't take it away from Fo and EEs through LRD: these cr...

I'm still a fan of what I proposed last week: ⋅ remove CBoE ⋅ |energy now returns 15-25 MP and takes 30 auts at 0 evo, 10 auts at 20 evo, and 5 auts at 27 evo. ⋅ Sif's channeling is now Song of Channeling, MP regen rate is significantly boosted for the duration, leaves...

kuniqs wrote:So instead of aa-ing with Sif or v-ing with staff, I'll be .-ing constantly?

No, you'll hit 5 which will stop when your MP is restored, unless you're fighting. But it's about as tedious as tabbing when actually fighting things ...

Compare the <Ray> status effect. Channeling (except with CBoE maybe) is tedious as-is, and while I'm aware that there are scripts (iirc gfunk's Sif channeling script turns all corpses into mana automatically), the game itself should be different. I propose that there be a <Channel> status that is ac...

Spriggan statues wouldn't be particularly OP, considering they have dinky HP pools already and bad (though not infinitely so) melee aptitudes anyways. Naga statues are already a generally bad idea, considering that casting Statue form means melding your barding and +7 scales (as well as body armour)...

Sorry about the macros, rko. Part of my workflow to bind keys for spells.

Let's review why Dig the spell was removed. "Allowing cheap, infinite digging out of combat is problematic, and with Felids now able to use wands it's possible for them to dig in places where they really need to for whatever reason, without needing the spell to still exist." So, let's see ...

Why exactly does dig have to be consumable when EE has always been about manipulating rock? Seriously ... Why does everything have to be standardized around 'optimal' gameplay, instead of optimizing the gameplay of less-than-optimal styles? This kind of thinking is what reduces the fun of adaptation...

The chance should just be allowed to rise with spellpower... Metal does, stone does not, neither rocks or crystal. Vault breaking is one EE's greatest strengths, along with killhole creation. Shatter can still retain the advantage of being fast enough about it to get the job done sans letting things...

OT: It's pretty obvious that tiles graphics are not to scale, unless you think hobgoblins are basically anorexic titans and rats are yaks with stubby legs. Is there a difference in how speed is handled for the different "...Form" transmutations? I don't have much experience with transmute...

You could probably stand to indicate things like "this spell prevents the monster from taking any action" if that's an intended consequence of the spell. I thought it would be obvious as you can, for the most part, only crystallize petrified targets ... You know, because it's harder to mo...

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