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3) The removal of food did not make crawl into more of a rush game, in fact, it removed one incentive to rush forward (which was never very strong anyway) for non mummies. Perhaps you talk about the new Zot clock? You should talk about it explicitely. I rarely rush and I have never seen the zot clo...

Given that 0.26.a0.863 is an "official" nightly, whereas 0.25.a0.863 isn't, I'd guess it's just a typo?

Worse, they might add a hardcoded unlock system.

Also understandability is important. I still maintain that"shadow fiend" was a better name than "tzitzimitl", because not only does it connect the monster to other monsters with similar names but also I can actually fucking spell it and search it by name And I suppose it support...

Siegurt wrote:0. Stab stuff

Wait being attracted doesn't wake a monster up? That's not a use I'd have thought of.

You could add !peace without deleting !attraction; nothing says there can't be one more potion; wasn't too long ago that there were 20 of them.

I like !attraction. What was wrong (in my eyes) with !stabbing was that distraction stabs, for most builds, are a rather random uncommon event; so !stabbing wasn't very useful; it was a niche potion without much of a niche (again, for most builds). But at least any melee character has circumstances ...

Is there a way to quiver ammo for a sling (e.g. sling bullets versus stones) without quivering it overall? All I've managed so far is to (a) quiver the sling bullets overall (b) switch back to the melee weapon (c) quiver whatever I want (unrelated to slings); and then it stays that way until I upgra...

What I don't like about this new change is that another UI hazzle has been introduced, as now you are asked whether you really want to stop your spells whenever you want to move on. This really breaks the flow of the game for those who rely on these spells a lot. If the intention of positional atta...

Which makes sense, since for many purposes a launcher is just a range-7 reaching weapon.

My experience of lamp of fire was also that it was too unreliable to be worth using. Maybe it was just ill-documented?

Setting

Code:: launcher_autoquiver = false

could help here; that way darts will stay quivered and you can fire your sling with 'v'.

Congratulations anyway! I like Qazlal too; got my first win with him/her/it. But Mf of Qazlal sounds weird, though I guess less so now that polearms don't have a stabbing bonus anyway. Fun image anyway --- walking hurricane?

I've certainly found it to work "out of the box". But maybe it interacts badly with Rolling Charge?

Rampage is a boot ego which, as the flavor text says, "bestows one free step when moving toward enemies". Sort of a poor person's Lunge?

Ok I looked it up and it's

Code:: default-depth: D:10-, Depths, Elf, Vaults

So D:9 is in fact too early; sorry for the mistake. But I don't know how it works probability-wise; most likely the same as any other portal but I don't know what that is.

IMO, troves should more often generate earlier, probably somewhere in low D (like 13-15), rather than in Depths, and have the entrance fee slightly reduced (or maybe the range of values should be less extreme). That way they can influence long term decision making for chars who didn't do S-branches...

In fact, "all your piety" is possibly more affordable early, since on D:9 you may not have all your stars yet.

Given how many characters I lose in Zot, I'm not convinced the late game is uninteresting. But maybe I'm just bad at it.

I usually enter them, and usually find them to be worth it; a lot of consumables fall off in the second half of the same, as nago said.

Wasn't the Wizard-->Hedge Wizard change accompanied by a change in stat distribution? So not quite the same? (I agree that Delver doesn't really fit as a crawl background.)

I guess this surprises me less now, since I yesterday got shafted into an O:2 branch end vault. Still surprising, though.

Never happened to me. I'd expect them all to be no_tele_into, and I'd expect that to imply no_shaft_into, if that's even its own thing; but I guess not?

Frankly, the job it supposedly does is now being done by the Zot clock. Of course, piety decay is a tighter but less strict clock; does the game really need both (except for Dg, and Ru, and Gozag, and Chei)?

I'd have guessed it was just a bonus to your to-hit --- either fixed, or 1dN. (Of course the difference matters, to the extent accuracy matters at all.) Am I wrong?

Is the idea maybe that demon weapons are blessed by the demons, who give an Acc bonus just as TSO gives a Dam bonus? Still, I agree with you that this would be a good change.

nago wrote:yeah since a lot of time.

But I also tend to forget he can do that, because usually it's kinda a pushover.

Not sure the goal of that commit (giving Xtahua a niche) really succeeded, given how few players seem to know about it.

Ok, Snorg is a special case since his core power is the ability to go berserk. But I'll give you draconian packs; though those can be nontrivial anyway depending on personnel.

Well, it's in a state where taking the downstairs to Elf reliably crashed it. I'd guess it's a problem with dungeon generation, rather than with my savefile; but, not being a dev, I don't know. Edit: Ok I went on crawl-dev and asked there. Was ignored, which is fair as that's not really what the cha...

Ok; I already reported on Mantis so I suppose I'll just have to obsessively check github to see if a fix has been pushed.

It looks to me as though the last time an admin (which I assume corresponds to a dev?) replied there was over a month ago. I guess it's possible they just look for new bugs once a month and then fix everything then. (Though I'd sort of like my crash to be fixed sooner rather than later, so I can fin...

I have the impression that Mantis isn't getting checked regularly. Is that accurate? If so, what is the recommended destination for bug reports these days?

Magipi wrote:Also, next time try not to fight berserk orb guardians. If you see guardians and a moth, read a scroll of fear to scare away the moth.

Is anything else made as much more dangerous by berserking as an orb guardian? I find them trivial otherwise, but, as you said, quite dangerous berserk.

Agreed. Though I'd be fascinated to see anyone manage to run it negative during the Orb run. (I guess if someone had played Z:5 really slow.)

I just tried setting always_show_zot = true; and the effect seems to be that the '%' screen always shows me as "bezotted". This strikes me as confusing. Frankly, now that bezotting doesn't drain you (right?), I'm not sure it makes sense to treat "bezotted" as a status at all; but...

Can't stop progress!

Though, in fairness, the wiki on Elyvilon still says they can't.

I think the game considers spiders to be insects. But hasn't the rule against pacifying insects gone back and forth?

I'd also have trained some Dodging. You could have gotten at least a few points of EV pretty cheaply; which would have helped some everywhere, but especially in Shoals.

Octopode-monk-of-XOM wrote:@andrew why feel inferior when the ppl playin such just have way more time in the game

Eh, mostly in fun. Though, I suspect most people --- even most regular players --- couldn't do what these are doing. But, obviously, not the most important thing in the world.

Making us all feel inferior.

Which makes me think of a heron (as in the bird) blinking.

Well, but it is an unrandart --- those are meant to be good --- and it's a scarf.

Disagree, anyway. Having at least some recognizably-named species is good for accessibility to newbies.

Sure, but to me at least being shafted into a very dangerous non-vault situation feels like luck of the draw and a test of skill, whereas being shafted into a vault feels worse --- possibly because vaults are often intentionally balanced around being avoidable?

Yeah, shafting into a non-full-floor vault seems unfair. But I guess one can get banished to the middle of a rune vault?

Well, to the limited extent that felids can use items. But I've never won one so I suppose you know better than I.

With a "stealth mode", though, it could be set up that a monster's seeing you, without more, doesn't break stealth; so you're still safe from anyone outside of the reduced vision range. (Of course, if you're in the middle of a pack stabbing, there will likely be several monsters within tha...

I certainly have found it fun to try to play a "pure" stabber, especially with spells. (Though I've never won that way.) So it would be sort of cool if it were a viable playstyle; but maybe not feasible.

Even as someone who's been playing this game for over 5 years, it wouldn't have occurred to me to search for minqmay#4416 or Pekkekke#7112.

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