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High-Invo gods are excellent for characters with low demands on their XP, which mostly means weapon-focused chars.

Gaining permanent bonuses from corpses sounds like it would strongly incentivize scumming for corpses, and I am definitely against that.

Just about every character can profit from a nearly-free powerful ally that can't die.

Most gods that don't demand high Invo are good gods for spellcasters, to almost but not precisely the same degree as for melee-only chars. Obviously not trog of course.

Robe of vines initially was 10 plusses, after getting nerfed, I adjusted the display to Regen+7, IIRC.

Pain Bond and Solo Time duration increases with Invocations. The duration, in AUTs, is: Solo time: min(max(10, 5 + max(1, roll_between_zero_and(1 + invo_skill * 2 + your_XL - monster_hit_dice)), 40) Pain bond: 20 + average_of_two_rolls_between_zero_and(invo_skill * 7 + your_XL - monster_hit_dice) Pu...

Dith + Ru: strong defensive and offensive options for little investment.

Zin + Lugonu: extremely powerful defensive and offensive powers for a shared high investment.

Qaz + Usk: gather all the monsters around and dance. Worked better when cloud damage gave piety.

Ideas like these have come up many times on the forums if you're curious why they aren't adopted or why people like demigods as they are, take a look back at the old threads.

To be fair, he might not be any one of those things, since he's also a pathological liar. :p

Great question! I honestly have no idea if tornado's damage is considered to be cloud-based or not.

You've got to stop extrapolating one person into a whole group of people.

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Football is my least favorite part of Madden 2015.

My understanding of the rationale behind giving a short blade is that it's a nerf to a strong background. Getting to start with a better weapon class would be a buff. See also hunter.

All damage done by the player that isn't a cloud or damage-over-time. The value of damage is assessed as a percentage of the damage-receiver's max health, and multiplied by a value based on monster threat level, so that damaging scarier monsters is worth more. Amulet of faith does increase piety gai...

The true nature of the universe.

I thought we had this organized, people.

In my experience, Confuse is the absolute best hex, bar none. It's a lot like getting Banish for less investment and without taking a god. It's like banish in that landing it is essentially the same as killing the target. It's actually better than killing the target in many situations because you ca...

If we change the question from "what's the best way to show monster threat levels?" to "what's the best way to decide how much XP a monster gives?", does it still make sense to have a link between monster danger level and xp value? My feeling is that monster danger level and xp v...

Out of curiosity, what criterion are you using to define "optimal"?

Piety for hurting a thing is tied to the scariness of that thing, so if you lure a bunch of chumps to a scary thing and then spend turns hitting the chumps you're gaining piety slower while experiencing more danger. There are some marginal cases where you can potentially arrange chumps to get a net ...

Except for Sif/Veh, the usefulness of gods for melee/book background chars is mostly differentiated by one thing: XP investment. High XP gods (such as Zin, Ely, Nem, Uskayaw, even Qaz) tend to be better for melee chars, who tend to have extra XP to spare and want powerful spell-like effects. Medium...

Except for Sif/Veh, the usefulness of gods for melee/book background chars is mostly differentiated by one thing: XP investment. High XP gods (such as Zin, Ely, Nem, Uskayaw, even Qaz) tend to be better for melee chars, who tend to have extra XP to spare and want powerful spell-like effects. Medium ...

There's been some talk about demigods' adaptability. The obvious piece of that is that their skills train slightly slowly and their stats are very high, which leaves them a bit above average on adaptability overall. What's more important is that adaptation is a core aspect of demigod gameplay, since...

There's no way we'd accept that patch. Not without triple shields.

Does this argument also apply to maces and flails, or is the difference between maces, flails, and Maces & Flails enough distinction?

Dg is objectively the most boring race. This isn't objectively true. For me, felids are the most boring race, though of course I mean boring to play. I suspect you mean something more like "demigods have the most objectively boring feature set", but that is not objectively correct either:...

Confuse allows you to disable the majority of the game's dangerous monsters for a few mp from full screen range. It's powerful because it's a safe and generally fairly reliable way to get kills on many dangerous monsters for a tiny investment. There's nothing to prevent you from using it with non sh...

I think it's hard to argue the following, and I see a fair amount of consensus here on the following: * Almost all imagined implementations of ranged that aren't OP involve an irritating level of weapon-switching and thus demand a ranged slot. * Ammo is irritating and goldifying ammo is a good idea....

Sounds like it could work. Alternatively, maybe putting on and/or removing amulets of harm could cut your current HP in half. That was the original draft of the penalty for "regen, the premise being that, like faith, it takes away what it gives. Other devs didn't like the idea because it meant...

That's quite an achievement! Congratulations to you, mooon; I'm happy to hear you enjoy Ru so much!

As for felids, it seems like mooon is just trying to remove a felid by the incremental approach.

I'm not going to remove amulet of harm. At this time, I'm convinced that it is (broadly) a good item for DCSS. It may be that the draining penalty is a problem (I kind of like that it creates more penalty to the amulet ID game, but I'm not wedded to it) then it could be easily switched to *Fragile a...

@VAF: Take, for example, the proposal to prevent ranged from working (or from doing good damage) at close range. edit: @Psieye: <Sequell> ranged reform[1/1]: [...] Optional: condense skills; maybe remove slings for ammo consistency in condensed skills.

My fear is that by having such a clearly defined niche for ranged, it's not giving players an *alternative* play style, it's just giving players one more tool in their toolbox for the *right* way to play. I believe you're correct, but I see that as an improvement on the status quo. Right now, range...

Making your main form of attack a consumable In my plan, ranged weapons will never be a primary attack; ammo will be sharply limited. Ranged will be a powerful alternate attack that scales heavily with investment. As such characters will need to choose whether they want to spend skill points to imp...

I think this is the wrong direction to take ranged combat in. It does do away with the irritating aspects of it (inventory management, ammo collection), it doesn't deal with many other issues (weapon swapping, balance, distinctive playstyle). If ranged combat is going to be in crawl, it needs to be ...

the only thing that would happen if you made iood/fprism/bsphere spawn hostile is confuse players into thinking their behaviour is different when it's not I thought that too, but fulminant prism has some odd effects when hostile: monsters won't try to break it, and you don't get credit/xp/piety for...

Monster danger level is tied directly to monster XP value. I don't think it's consistently useful, but we can tweak things until it gets more useful. When the "smart" xp-deciding logic fails, there's a multiplier you can manually adjust to make a monster give more or less XP. I don't think...

There is some fun stuff going on in these proposals, and I think with good editing you could create something quite interesting. I think the best elements are spawning weapons on melee, throwing weapons that then dance, and being able to switch weapons midcombat by movement to get access to new effe...

This is an interesting idea that I haven't seen before. I like a lot of things about it, but I'm concerned that auto explore may put players into situations where they have a substantial quantity of the new terrain behind them; situations they would try to avoid manually.

To be clear, that post was addressing hurkyl only, and only because he felt he knew the dev team's motivations better than members of that team do.

@Hurkyl: It sounds like you already have chosen your interpretation of what I'm trying to say, so there's no point in us trying to communicate.

You're wrong there. We A/B tested this across a broad cross-section of demographics in a series of a 300-person trials! After three years and hundreds of thousands of dollars, we discovered that this was the best possible scenario. C'mon man, this is a labor-of-love open-source project. Of course we...

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Our brain cannot easily differentiate ******** from ********** why are we forcing players to count the !!!!! As dpeg said, I don't think anyone expected players to count !s and then use that as a crude numeric comparison. The increasing numbers of !s is, as I understand it, simply an unobtrusive wa...

Thanks for the bug report. I believe I've fixed the issue.

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I think lots of players want to be able to see AC, but I would be amazed if it turned out that knowing AC improved player decision making by a non-trivial margin. Gamers tend to assume that knowing precise numbers will help them because that's often true in games. In crawl, it is mostly not true. Th...

Of course, we do still have gloves of archery. I'm hoping they will be more interesting after the long-promised ranged reform.

Just to be clear, I will not base my decision to moderate based on the "value" a poster offers. I will only consider it to some degree in how quickly I escalate to more severe moderation -- bans, really. Bad behavior is bad behavior no matter who does it.

I think most of the devs care about what the playerbase wants, but that doesn't mean that we'll change direction just to give them what they want. I think we all want to make a fun game that many people enjoy, but we don't all think that players always know best about what makes a great game for eve...

Always with the personal drama.

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