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0.17 is the good shit

so how is this spell better than haste used to be considering that it is level 7? it seems pretty useless except as an experience dump for lategame melee characters.

In the inverse of this scenario, I used to entertain the idea of using a bot to create a bunch of player ghosts on a relatively unpopulated server, which I could then use as an experience boost on a turncount speedrun. I never got around to it though. I have no idea what determines how many ghosts c...

You should change to GDA and enchant the GDA. Evasion is overrated, especially when you are a Gargoyle and can reasonably get 60-70 AC. The great mace you have is ok, but you will probably get one with a better brand eventually from Oka.

I just restrict playing to tournaments, or Hellcrawl. In the tournament I just try to win as fast as possible until something breaks my streak. Otherwise, I don't bother, since I've played basically any character archetype that you can play in Crawl and the game is fairly easy so wins aren't that re...

milski wrote:Why are all of Crawl's formulas batfuck crazy nonsense, anyway? Stuff like Airstrike damage is just insane.

probably no reason in particular, just adding various hacks like multipliers, floors, additional die etc. to get the desired damage output by whoever was writing the spell

Draconians are better with book backgrounds since they get an AC bonus and a resist without needing body armor. Humans are better in non-book/melee backgrounds, because they can use body armor. A good body armor drop is a big swing in your favor that Draconians can't leverage, whereas a human can re...

Suggestion: Have Vehumet add spells to your library, now that this feature exists, instead of having gifts that can time out and be overwritten. I'm not sure if this has actually been done already yet, but it just occurred to me.

I'd like to see removed fire and ice rings, I don't get why only those two schools benefit of an enhancer ring assuming that the original line of thinking was "spellpower and a resist but with a tradeoff", whoever originally made them probably couldn't think of a thematic penalty for a hy...

I wonder if the game would benefit from goldifying literally everything, except a set of items that we deliberately want to be mutually exclusive. Any means of reducing the amount of fiddling with the autopickup menu to stop picking up junk is a good development imo. I think this would be a good ch...

What do you mean, -tele floors?

Getting the rune, why would you ever farm XP in Hell... the enemies are generally weaker and you can safely skip the bosses without having to worry about them reappearing like in Pan.

I think Hell is easier for many characters. This was briefly not true when Iron Giants were more powerful, but now that they've been nerfed into oblivion Hell is back to being easier than Pan.

reducing the number of generic rings is good

war axe is probably better, distortion is super annoying when it blinks ranged enemies away from you, especially if you are using Wu and trying to chain consecutive hits on them or something

I've been told it's not really possible but it would be great to have "drop and remove from autopickup" for generic items.

Why do people still fall for the "weapon choice" meme? it's a dice roll. Assuming that you started with a warrior class, when you continue to invest in your starting weapon skill, you're rolling the dice that you'll get a series of weapon drops culminating in a viable full-enchant target o...

duvessa wrote:i hate stealth but even i acknowledge that wearing a ring of stealth while exploring is more useful than wearing some resistance ring while exploring

then they're degenerate items that should be removed along with their cursed partners.

Got to memorize those vault entrances bro :^)

serious question: is there any situation in which you want to wear a ring of stealth (generic) over some other ring in your inventory? I can't think of many plausible scenarios. i think both stealth and loudness rings should be removed.

the only thing that is really too tanky is THE GIAGGOSTUONO, 40+ AC is overkill, you basically cannot damage it with a 1h weapon.

What if we made 2 new gods instead: - The first god passively boosts all your melee skills by up to 5 at 6* of piety, and has an invocation at 5* that doubles your attack speed. I call him... Okazari. - The second god passively boosts all your magic skills by up to 5 at 6* of piety, and restores MP ...

Oh, I thought I had already had it enabled but I guess I didn't. That works.

Is there a way I can completely disable all -more- prompts in the game, for any reason? It gets annoying to keep getting them when there are 10+ messages of "The X summons a Y!" "The X cackles evilly!" "The X hits you but does no damage (x3)" "You hit the X" a...

There was a blind guy that won once I think, with some kind of assistance program for the blind. I don't remember whether they were only "legally" blind or actually "can't see shit, captain" blind.

If we didn't have the current semi-smooth spell failure system, what you could do is have all charms be permanent taking up a portion of MP, to be determined by spell level. Assume you have a flat breakpoint of "You need X skill to cast this spell with your current stats and encumbrance". ...

Just make the abyss a 3 floor branch with a rune at the bottom, imo, and replace Banishment with Shafting or Paralysis or something. No one likes slogging through 0-XP monsters and the main mechanic of the Abyss isn't really worth keeping anyway...

Serious answer: Eating: - Get rid of eating. It doesn't accomplish the goals it is supposed to, and you can just have a hard turncount clock instead with less interference in gameplay. A seriously tight food clock is too high-variance for my tastes. Weapons: - Mostly do away with the attack delay sy...

I don't think resting to heal is that bad now. I used to think it was but in Sil you just regen really fast so you can keep walking around without having to worry about your health being too low to safely explore in most cases. It's like being a Vine Stalker or Troll basically. As long as the player...

Their specialty is the lack of a specialty.

I think they actually don't do that much more damage than a naga warrior wielding a decent weapon, in theory. Naga warriors have 28, constrict(6) and the fighter flag, so with something like a glaive or battleaxe they can get to about 45 damage. Similarly naga sharpshooters I think do 17, 5(constric...

There is no practical difference between ranged and melee in Crawl once you've reached the point where you are in no threat of running out of ammo. It is melee at a distance. Ranged is practically a subset of melee (though actual melee is still better than conj). In short, it's the heavy armor that ...

Because spells are the strongest player option in this game. actually that would be heavy armor melee. Obviously spell hunger shouldn't exist. I think it's a carryover from nethack. But since this is CYC, I don't feel guilty about derailing the thread a bit. I am interested in this question. How wo...

The main issue with Jiyva is that he acts too often and spams you with messages. Once your stats "stabilize" and you get enough mutations he shouldn't change them all that often.

Lol rip yet another thing that wasn't heavy armor melee

Why does a god need to be removed to add IJC? With that said both TSO and Zin could use a rework to make them less useless.

ONIchinchin wrote:Because spells are the strongest player option in this game.

actually that would be heavy armor melee.

Carryover from Nethack probably? As far as I know, pre-DCSS crawl was mostly inspired by Nethack. So basically, tradition.

I think the AC on THE GIAGGOSTUONO should go down a little. 40ish(I don't know the actual value) is quite a bit more than even Cerebov. You could make it fast in compensation.

It's very disappointing to learn spells like CBlink and then be unable to cast them right as I get them safely castable. Why not restrict the Orb status to Zot:5, or cause picking up the Orb to close all Passages of Golubria? Either one will prevent the orb passage exploit.

I don't know, I never train stealth except as an En and don't find the abyss to be a challenge. Meanwhile if you just put XP into melee or damage-dealing spells instead, you can just kill whatever monster instead of hoping to lose it around a corner... Look, you need to have unkillable enemies for s...

the main reason stealth isn't strong is that it doesn't fucking do anything in the mid to late game because of the high enemy density. it also doesn't help you kill anything. i feel like literally every roguelike that has stealth has this problem except Brogue and Infra Arcana since they have no exp...

imo always walk around with rf+/rc+, there's no real reason not to and it's inconvenient to be constantly swapping for 2 ac or whatever.

I actually think this would be a good idea but it would require a radical rework of crawl combat formulae.

No magic, but you can make rods? Sounds pretty powerful, you don't even need to pick a god for the game to prevent you from making poor skilling choices!

Shard1697 wrote:
prozacelf wrote:TIL: People spend 10 mins on d:1.
that ain't that much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DStCYJRhd0s

When I watch videos like this it really makes me think about how different discussion about DCSS development might be without online statistics and the idea of streaking existing.

Don't try to do stealth stabbing without starting with a Hexes book. You will hate yourself for doing so. Crawl stealth is very bad and becomes useless even at level 27 with the Dithmenos multiplier by the time you are in Vaults or Depths.

Your AC is weirdly low for having a +8 cpa. Maybe I forgot how this formula works, but you should have 14 base AC from cpa, and 3 from your other armor slots, and then 13 from enchantment, then (17/22)*16 ~ 12 so you should have 42... what gives here?
edit: I didn't see deformed body, that will do it.

Weird to see Tengu so high on the 3-rune success chart. Not too surprising to see Ghouls at the top though, once you are XL27 nothing can kill you but the torment+hellfire combo, uniques, or Oka/Trog wrath.

Generally yes because investing in, for example, a wide variety of magic schools, isn't really going to make your character better at killing enemies. Let's put it this way: if you've been training only weapon, armor, fighting, and dodging, is training Fire Magic going to help you kill any monsters ...

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