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What if they generated in reasonable numbers and charged at a rate commensurate with the power of their effect?

A quick data point: Just now on WebTiles, Atomikkrab found 4 -- 1, 2, 3, 4 count them! -- lamps of fire on one level of cocytus along with a fan of gales and a stone of tremors. People get huge numbers of these things because way too many of them are generated. I urge the devs to at least try revert...

stacking evocables was not a buff you could use every evoker you found before they stacked Not if you had to drop some due to inventory management reasons. Instead of deciding which potentially useful item to drop you could carry them all to places like V:5. Practically all of the time I still take...

Evokers of the same type recharge consecutively. Evokers of different types recharge independently of each other. Here's an example scenario PleasingFungus put together: http://pastebin.com/aPSrjuK2 initial situation: 1 discharged lamp, 2 discharged phials lamp phial 1 phial 2 charge 0 0 0 1 1 0 2 2...

So you propose that changing the rarity of the items does not actually affect the number that a player can get? Strictly speaking, what you say is true. In principle a player can collect items in pandemonium, the abyss, bazaars, and ziggurats forever and thereby attain as many elemental evokers as h...

@Siegurt: I don't understand where you get from what I've said that I think this new mechanic is bad because it's new. Maybe it'll turn out that I'm the only one who would ever think it's weird that using a phial of floods drains phials of floods you find laying around on the ground, but I really do...

So why generate multiple item of that type? Having 1 or 1000 in the game it's the same Why generate +0 scimitars when you have already found (or enchanted up) a +1 scimitar? The latter makes the former strictly redundant, too, but Crawl doesn't alter item generation based on what you already have (...

Okay, so there's a question of how powerful they are when used in volume, but there are reasonable ways to address this without taking such a strange measure as linking all instances of this object to the actions of the player. For example, if there's a problem that they become spammable, then the n...

The commit in question seems pretty baffling to me. If I understand the prior situation, the number of lamps/fans/whatever you carried determined how large a burst of usage you could sustain. This change appears to make the marginal value of an additional lamp/fan/whatever zero (or close to it). Why...

If it's a question of flavor and the issue is light vs. dark, then obviously Dithmenos worshippers shouldn't be allowed to use lightning. Perhaps not dazzling spray either. Alternatively, Dithmenos could have an ability that extinguishes fire, so that if you indirectly cause a fire you can put it ou...

Try speccing some zigs to get a feel for them. It seems the key is to know when to quit on zigs and with melee characters that seems to be before the end usually... Characters you see doing well in zigs and actually clearing them tend to use a lot of level 9 spells...

My experience with a MiFi of Qazlal running axes w/ +9 executioner's axe (vamp) is that Zot was a cakewalk, so I wouldn't be too apprehensive about winning after you've collected however many runes you want. And that was just a really basic 3 rune build, no spells, just fighting/axes/armor/dodging a...

I'm surprised people are so keen on lair. I think it's a bit of a boring grind where hydras are the only real threat. Snake and shoals are interesting branches, swamp and spider less so. It just seems that swamp and spider have considerably less interesting/intelligent monsters (although orb spiders...

Oh, thanks. I was concerned my recent abyss death was even stupider than I thought.

Wait a minute, you mean exits to the Abyss are on Abyss:3?

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Awesome dump. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress dumps or term tv clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get.

Thanks for the motivation.

Eh, 16 isn't that much. Walk it off.

For the record, I tab death yaks.

I don't really understand how spellcasting works with heavy armor, so I stay away from it. That's what I'd been trying with HO. [edit:] But I agree, song of slaying and a few others would be nice for this build. I've used song of slaying with hill orcs and it works well. It's a bit redundant though,...

First win. After numerous failed attempts with Hill Orc hybrid types, I decided to pick up a variant of the build I was working with that an associate of mine (EggplantWizard) won with: Minotaur without any fancy magic stuff + vampiric axe. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16-a0-3694-g4de5da1 (web...

re: dpeg, I get what you're saying about putting a lot of numbers in front of people. I surely don't quality as an advanced player, but as someone who was recently a complete beginner, I would say that the auto-skill default really only provides the illusion that you don't need to know what you're d...

I suppose someone should run simulations and put a digest of this kind of information out there. It's contrary to the ideals of clarity and reducing the need for spoilers not to make it available, though. I'm surprised to hear there's philosophical opposition. On the other hand, if your damage calcu...

I just wanted to say, re: the suggestion here that one can (and imo should) go farther. The player should be able to bring up a screen that shows a histogram of total damage dealt in a customizable number of simulated melee attacks against various monsters in LoS, paged if necessary. The histogram w...

Don't ranged attackers generally look for line of sight by sidestepping, e.g. around corners? I agree if you have a super dense arrangement, monsters will approach to melee range, but if it's not very dense, there will be lines of sight available. I don't think it's straightforwardly better than fog...

Hm, yeah, there's some overlap. This doesn't block of sight, so summons continue to attack. I think the fact that it doesn't spawn around the player and that the obstructions can be destroyed by monsters changes how it works tactically though. edit: Example: You may want to cross an open area with s...

The idea is a defensive spell that spawns breakable glass walls that block spell and missile targeting. The walls are broken by walking onto them and doing so takes no additional time. Probably in the Hexes school, maybe Conjurations/Hexes. The placement would be within a cone, similar to glaciate, ...

Should be called "spider sense," imo.

Hi all. Thanks for all the advice. I had a chance to check out Arrhythmia playing his fire elementalist in the vaults the other day and learned a fair bit from seeing some of the advice here play out, especially re: best skilling practices. I'll give it a try next time I get a game in.

It's a matter of preference really, but I am a fan of Qazlal's powerful ranged combat and screen cleaner. Not a fan of elemental force though, lol. Elemental force is straight up one of the worst abilities in crawl atm. Since Qaz doesn't protect your summons from your clouds, all you end up doing i...

Alright, I'll be sure to use evocables next time. I left a lot of stuff lying around because I didn't have the skill to use them and in many cases didn't know what they do. I didn't do spells because I thought it would take too much xp to get to a state where I could cast them reasonably well. I wan...

re: Constriction, I didn't realize the damage would increase and I expected to kill both of them easily. It was the lich that worried me. I only had a few turns left when I realized how serious the situation was.

Yeah, I'll post a dump if I can. Is there a way to access old dumps from WebTiles/telnet? Also, I see on learndb a lot of what look like irc commands to watch old games. How does all that work? update: Here's the dump Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16-a0-3468-g3fc247e (webtiles) character file. ...

Hello all. I'm fairly new to crawl, although I've spec'd a fair amount of WebTiles games and read through a lot of the wiki. I've been trying a hill orc fighter/Qazlal build, skilling primarily axe, then fighting, then invocations after axe and fighting are in the mid to high teens and a bit of armo...

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