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XL 23 NaVM turned Air Elementalist. With shield skill 8.15, I have 3 nice shields to choose from, which yield the following stats: AC EV SH 29 17 20 +2 buckler of protection 26 16 23 +2 shield 26 11 36 +15 shield "Bullseye" {EV -5} So this is basically a comparison question asking what cou...

Ah well, it's time to learn that counting works better when you pay attention to what you're supposed to count. :oops: I saw three upstairs and three downstairs on the level map for level 5, so I knew I'd found them all. But, as it turns out, one each of those were escape hatches. Went upstairs, fou...

Yeah, I've thought about that. The four altars I've found are Zin, Nemelex, Yredelemnul, and Xom. I've never tried any of them. I am working a Naga Venom Mage, spellcasting 10 poison 10, air magic 9, so I was planning on either Vehumet or Makhleb. I think the poison affinity rules out Zin, and I hat...

In game it says it is between D4 and D7. I have explored everything down through D11, and it's not there. I don't appear to have any bubble levels; they all seem to have the requisite number of upstairs and downstairs. No scroll of magic mapping yet, to help solve this. The entrance to the Temple se...

A promising start, cut short too quickly.

^ truth

You probably never have a problem killing one orc. Or even two at a time. But after you've killed that one or two, you see a couple more, so you kill them. Oh, and here's one more, kill him. And just about then the priest comes around the corner, and you are smite smite dead. So the key is to kill o...

Oh, and I've recently signed on with Vehumet; the altar was not in the Temple, just found it all by itself in the dungeon.

My only offensive spells so far are sting, mephitic cloud (both at excellent), and venom bolt (at very good). This has not been a book-rich dungeon so far; I've only got the starter VM book and now this Earth book. My alternative for killing poison resistant things from a distance is a sling and som...

I've got a nice young Kobold Venom Mage working, level 12, Air Magic is up to 4.4 from casting Mephitic Cloud. I had planned to supplement Poison (currently off, but 9.0) and Conjuring (off, 7.4) with Air Magic, since Poison will only take me so far. But I just found a Book of Earth on the floor, wi...

If I understand the math correctly, the speed brand dagger should be making you less hungry, not more. If it takes x average hits with a dagger to kill monster y, the speed brand just means that you get to take your turn more often than the monster does. If you are one-shotting an ensorcelled monste...

What I had to learn was: as soon as I see the first bee, I need to stop. I must not get close enough to see three of them. At the stage where the first bees show up, I can defeat one bee, probably two. But if I have to deal with more than that -- even one at a time in a hallway, and certainly if the...

If the geography is right, you might throw a rock at it from max range, run for the stairs with it chasing you, go up, mark the level so that you'll remember that there's a shadow dragon there, come down a different staircase, and sneak into the Lair that way.

There should be three branches that begin in the Lair, out of 4 possibilities: the Swamp, the Shoals, Snake Pits, Slime Pits.

If you've got Shoals, Snake, and Slime, you've got your 3, and there isn't a Swamp.

if you encountered something sufficiently powerful that you had to swap for resistances, you're probably using the resistances to buy the time to escape. This seems to expect that there are only two categories: enemies I can defeat without any special resistances, and enemies I have to run away fro...

Trog gifts are the same frequency regardless of your skills; your skills simply help determine the type of weapon you get. If I understand you correctly, you're saying that if I work M&F, Trog will give me maces and flails; so when I need to use a Trog gift weapon for the resists on it, it will...

I'm sure BiA would have won the battle for you.

I don't know if you could have won with berserk. I'll run my experiment again, when I get a little more time, with your actual stats and skills -- I had misguessed how high your skills would be, when I set them all to 11.

Morgue file now included - so you can tell me in detail what I should have done! Looks like you had a scroll of blinking, a scroll of fear, and a potion of speed. Any of those could probably have gotten you to the stairs, at the point when you decided that it was time to escape. Just running for th...

Spriggan Berserker is an odd class, I think. It's going to take some experimentation to decide how much you can stand toe to toe and slug it out with your enemies. I'd say it's worth trying the armor, to see how it goes. Your 9,9 quickblade of slicing is a very strong weapon. There are certainly wea...

Looking at the way you used a quarterstaff as your test weapon, it seems you weren't wearing a shield. Trolls should wear a shield. Pretty much always. Yes, especially with unarmed. Ran all the tests I had time for. I picked a quarterstaff because it's a high accuracy high damage newbie weapon. It ...

Regarding resistances and such on weapons, you can wield a weapon without having its skill. But I won't get those weapons if I haven't trained those skills, will I? That seems to be what you were suggesting earlier: training up all those different skills is the reason you're getting Trog gifts spre...

This got me intrigued, so I had to try an experiment in Wizard Mode. Created a level 11 Troll Berserker: fighting 11, unarmed combat 11, dodging 11, staves 0, 131 hp, piety ****** Melee (claws) vs hydra: 2 attempts, 2 terrible failures. 12 or 14 headed hydra causing massive damage. Melee (0,0 quarte...

You may be right, Minmay; certainly you have much more experience than I do. I've never tried to kill a hydra with just claws. I've never been confident enough to expect that my troll's damage output will simply overwhelm the steadily increasing damage caused by the hydra growing more and more heads...

I've played berserkers several times so far, and I like to maintain a balance of weapon skills: hand to hand, maces & flails, and (eventually) blades -- and perhaps slings. I like that for several reasons. 1. You don't know what all junk you're going to pick up from the dungeon floor, you might ...

Its g) BiA three times and don't berserk unless under 2/3 HP. See if you can go without. With Hydra, chances are you'll come out of Rage before you kill it at this stage. And that would be very bad. I think you're telling him not to berserk unless he needs to -- which I agree with -- because going ...

What is the correct tactical choice The correct tactical choice is to have a plan in place before you encounter a hydra, and then implement that plan. When you decide to enter the Lair, you know that you will have to face hydras. A four headed hydra is the easiest one you will encounter. Hydras are...

In baseball, your team can win the World Series just by winning about two thirds of your games: you can fail a third of the time, and you're still a champion. You'll be in the Hall of Fame as one of the greatest batters ever, if you just get a hit one third of the time: you can fail two thirds of th...

Errr, you should be able to kill most swamp drakes before they cast on you. Swamp dragons are doable, but they're a little tougher than the drakes.

How thoroughly did you check out the armours and weapons in the orc mines? Most of it is junk, but quite often there is some resist gear there. If you find even a robe with cold or poison resist on it, that's going to make things easier. If you've found an amulet of clarity, or if you have a decent ...

Well, for the first time I've found a bazaar. I understand they usually have timers on them, but this one apparently doesn't, because it's still there. It's blocked by stone walls and a statue, so it was inaccessible to me for a while, but now I've found a wand of disintegration which should be suff...

Yet surely he can use long blades, and simply avoid the demon blades? And can wield maces and flails, and never pick up a demon whip?

The Killer Angels should be on everybody's reading list. 8-)

I'm no expert at all, but I have found it useful to victory dance my primary casting skill right away, with the 25 starting points in the xp pool. You can't do that if you enter the dungeon and there's already 2 monsters waiting to greet you; but if you're in an empty hall, it seems to be worth whil...

My basic policy is: go upstairs to try on new armours.

OK I found it. There was a very cleverly done backtrack zigzag entrance into a passage in the wall, about 5 tiles long, disguised with a persistent mist over one square of shallow water. The rune was at the end of that hallway. Because of the arrangement of deep water tiles, it was not possible to f...

I've now killed everything in the swamp except for Roxanne's statue. She's in the SW corner of Swamp5, but the only thing she's guarding is a hardcover book. The fortress is in the SE corner of Swamp 5, and it had the usual swamp dragons and drakes and hydras. They're all dead now. But there's no tr...

I am pleased to report that I got to Orc 4, cleared the random orcs out of the large cavern, got to the fortress, and high priests and arch wizards started to emerge, zapping me as if they didn't like me all that much. I left, did 4 levels of the Swamp, gained a couple XLs and several apt levels, an...

The wikipedia article and the Sid Meier article are both very fine reads. Thanks for posting them!

Are there probability factors built into item generation, which vary from game to game? It seems to me that one game, there are scrolls everywhere, and relatively few weapons. On the next game, I'm tripping over weapons but scrolls are hard to find. That has made me wonder whether, when the game cre...

Wow, version 0.8 is nice. I'm having to learn some new key combinations, but that hasn't been too bad. I have a Kobold Berserker going, who found a +0 +1 sling and lots of stones; so he's now got skill 9 in slings along with skill 13 in short blades with a +2+4 saber. Trog Gifts so far: a nice sling...

So I have updated my computer, and now it will run 0.8.

Is there a way for the new version to pull up the character from the old version? Or is he doomed to be no longer valid?

Hmmm that's interesting.

Trog is exalted by my worship; this is the highest rank of piety, is it not?

My abilities are: berserk, might, haste, all of which are at excellent status. I have no other one showing.

Brothers in Arms doesn't exist in version 0.5, which is the latest version that I can get to run successfully on this computer. So although my piety with Trog is very high indeed, I can't summon Brothers.

Never ask a scroll of acquirement for armor unless you're wielding a two-handed weapon; otherwise, it'll drop a +0 buckler on you to fill in that equipment slot you "need" to fill. (I know it's an intended feature of the scroll, but I can't figure out why. Handing out crap items to plug u...

The numbers before your weapon list first the to-hit modifier and then the damage modifier.

I don't know the answer to your other two questions, but I'm sure someone does

I've finished: Lair, Swamp, Snake Pit, Elven Halls, Vault. Swamp, Snake, and Vault are the 3 runes I have. I've got 2 rN+ rings; rF+ from the golden dragon armor, 1 rFf+ ring, and rF+ on an ok-but-not-great Trog gift weapon. The quickblade was another Trog gift, and I've enchanted it up to +9 +9 and...

I made it to Zot 1 finally, but it is kicking my butt. I've got a level 20 ish orc berserker; I've got 3 runes, a +9 +9 quickblade and golden dragon armor, about 200 hp. I can switch to a pretty lame Trog weapon to get to rF+++ or I can keep my quickblade in hand and switch rings to get rLife++ -- b...

I might make a couple of comments. 1. Looks like you were still recovering from being berserk. Generally going berserk means you lose, if you can't kill everything around before it wears off. 2. Pretty decent weapon and a nice armor there, but 3 bees is still too big a fight to be in at your level. ...

I'm still pretty new myself, and have never won; but my last two characters have progressively made it farther than any of my previous tries. What I have learned can be summarized into one short idea: In order to win the game, you have to survive every single battle. Or, to put it the other way arou...

I've had single orcs and band of orcs in the Lair, while clearing it. I've never seen any respawns of humanoid monsters, however.

This leads me to believe that once you've cleared a level, the respawns will only be animals.

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