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Nice thread! Here's a two-player game my friend made and I've been playing with him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OucJCRHbHDk

It's pretty tactical. If you have a friend to play this with on the same PC, go for it.

Cool to see all the Star Control love here.

--Eino

The plant variation tiles look very nice. Thanks for providing the screenshots too, seems like they fit in well. The new flytrap tiles look much better, they look like they fit in with the rest of the Crawl tiles too.

--Eino

Blogged!

I don't have the time to check the changes more thoroughly, but what I've seen looks like a huge improvement (global implementables list - wow!). Great jeorb and many thanks!

--Eino

So, any news about merging the leaderboards? Was this even considered? Has anyone mentioned this to people in charge of them? I sure haven't! :D (I'm not even 100% sure which leaderboards we are talking about) In this case, "tries" means "gives lip service to when it suits what the p...

Looks like your git branch does not in fact have the changes. You need to commit the changes with "git commit -a" (which commits all the changes and asks you for the commit message). Then do "git push" to push it to gitorious.

--Eino

Roderic wrote:Crawl tries to be as faithful as possible to standard myths and legends, and should shun any modern game concept in case that a previous similar idea exists .

Well, Stone Soup tries at least. Linley was pretty happy to take a lot of stuff from D&D direct.

--Eino

You need to also revert parts of 5955a17, which removes GENPC_DWARVEN and GENPC_OGRISH, and replaces them with just checking for species (since in master, there's only one of dwarven and ogrish species each). Here's an alternative method that employs git (version control). I'm by no means a git expe...

Efreets are actually demonic, but air elementals and golems would be a nice addition for them, that's true! I guess you could use Summon Elemental now too if you were an EE of TSO or something, heh. I've never cast it myself..

--Eino

Sounds good to me, very natural idea. You're probably right it wouldn't affect gameplay that much though. edit: I remember another suggestion from before: short-timed single-target silence effect on (appropriate) curare'd targets. Probably would be too powerful for player characters though.. but wou...

Many congratulations! (insert joke about Okawaru wedding gifts)

--Eino

In Crawl, the only big change that has been made to Tengus is that they do not have wings anymore (which is good, since this always interfered with the armour wearing capability of Kenkus). That was actually just a bug fix considering monsters and player ghosts (they're supposed to be wingless, for...

It's available in the Humble Voxatron Debut (from Humble Bundle) as a bonus game, if you pay more than the current average ($5.04 as we speak). I was really happy to see the game appear in there, as I was interested in getting it and I tend to get the Humble Bundle deals. The deal has a week left, a...

Being able to fire through air elementals and them charging up sounds good, nice synergy! Summons & good gods is a long-term plan that has been worked on bit by bit. For instance, Hydra and Dragon summons were added precisely as high-end spells that good gods could use. Ely only gives a piety hi...

I read through the page once so far, it has a lot of good thought in it. The few points I didn't like was nerfing Summon Ice Beast to one beast at the time, and (to lesser extent) changing Conjure Ball Lightning to Summoning. The former is an important spell for summoners that follow good gods (alth...

Both ideas, berserk from damage input and "starting to get angry" warnings sound interesting to me. I, too, don't like how the mutation doesn't really matter for (pure) casters. The first idea would make it matter, but in a hopefully interesting way that would change the way you play. The ...

cjo, thanks for the feedback. I haven't played the new Transmuters yet. But I'm happy to hear Sticks to Snakes getting more use - I think it's a great spell (both in usefulness and flavour-wise). Choosing what to cast on from inventory doesn't sound bad to me. How do you find Stalkers? They have FD ...

The stag idea sounds certain kinds of awesome. I think the flavour is terrific. The image of evil characters killing holy creatures for rewards (additional to XP/piety of course) is exciting. If the rewards were high enough, it might be an interesting choice for good-god worshipers. The thing that d...

Looks promising! Slime getting its own wall tiles (properly different, not just recoloured) would be very nice. One vague comment - since the walls burn you when you're next to them, it'd be cool if the walls looked damaging or dangerous. How to achieve that, I don't know, but perhaps this gives you...

dolphin, this is thinking ahead a bit, but I can imagine the golden head used as a future misc item tile. Can you edit the ankh symbol out and submit it on Mantis (or just attach it here)? I'll put it in the UNUSED folder.

--Eino

The rings now auto-id on equip.

--Eino

I gave giant mites, giant cockroaches and giant geckoes wall-clinging. Basing a sewer map around these monsters (with perhaps a spider "boss" (a normal spider or perhaps a tarntella)) would be doable.

--Eino

I thought that the short timer starts when you see any tile from the entry vault, but it turns out this was a hallucination; it only starts when you see the portal itself. I modified the wiki page in question.. https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:vault:portal_vaults&#timers...

Going against expectations (esp. new players') is a very good point. It is... as long as the player finds it to be cool and fun. :) Trying a race which is normally big, bad, and mean but finding it to be rather crappy instead... now that's not really cool. :) I meant to say it was a good point to b...

I've had this in mind for a while (but probably didn't write it down in the wiki). I'll try to review the portal timers before 0.8 and see if I can add such messages. Thanks for the message suggestions, keep them coming, there's at least Wizlabs still without suggestions.

--Eino

I liked the look of these too. I'm seconding everything minmay said. I also thought they had an unique look which I haven't seen yet before in vaults. If/once you're finished, please post them in the Mantis tracker & they'll get added to the game!

--Eino

How about a -TELE status light? I think I put that up in the wiki too.

--Eino

I guess one thing that's good about them is that they're there so that Berserkers can start with them instead of robes. I don't really like all the armour pieces that are functionally identical myself..

--Eino

Going against expectations (esp. new players') is a very good point. The "more HP from Fighting" idea sounds good to me (not sure if it fixes much tho). It's also touching how many people are so fond of the current Ogres.

--Eino

Please also add any mentions you have found. If you don't know your way about editing wikis, you can also post links here and I'll add them.

--Eino

Very nice thread. I agree with midgame being too long, and that the optimal strategy of sparing the branch ends until you've grinded enough regular levels should be gotten rid of. Cutting floors without compensation feels like a good idea to me - you'll eventually need to go to a challenging place. ...

I believe this goes to the "often suggested, but won't be done" category.

Flavourful graves could be cool.

--Eino

What a great idea. I haven't played Sprint much, but I guess the point is not to try and make an excellent map in one go, but just have some fun. So I continue with the following: NAME: dungeon_sprint_robin TAGS: sprint no_item_gen no_trap_gen no_monster_gen no_pool_fixup no_rotate no_hmirror no_vmi...

I'm kind of with danr. I'm not great with graphics, but I'll try to come up with feedback anyway. I can't really suggest tips or anything since I've made so few tiles. Hopefully co, coolio and other tile contributors speak up too. First off the look of these is less "pixelwork", which I li...

Um, that was not an example of a passive ability, but an example of an activatable ability with positioning considerations.

--Eino

A pile of stones would suffice. But I think you could just throw all of them for all of your encounters until you hit XL2, I don't think it'd create a choice unfortunately.

--Eino

You can target them in the cardinal directions, up, down, left right, so that move could be: ....... ....... ....... ....... ..xxx.. ....... ....... ....... ....... ....... .x..... .....x. ...@... ...@... .x.@... ...@.x. ....... ....... .x..... .....x. ....... ..xxx.. ....... ....... ....... ..........

X needs to be unoccupied. Why? In Disgaea, in that specific (hypothetical) move, the character takes a step back to accelerate for the move (rush through a line of enemies, damaging each of them). That's why that particular spot (behind the character) must be unobstructed. Also the move can be: @ =...

First off, I really like this thread. There are a lot of differing opinions, but the discussion is quite civil. I love reading stuff like this. Like I said, I prefer the passive abilities. I like that it is ambitious to try to introduce meaningful moves in such a way. It's not seen often at least in...

How about only healing when you explore? (your roots have already drained all the nutrition from the levels you've seen)

--Eino

I don't like 'a'-activatable abilities for melee moves. Instead, the moves should trigger according to your positioning. Then the "button-pressing" to activate the move is actually done inside the game world. The "automatic" charge is my favourite. Another idea of such a move: ma...

Swiftness (and Haste) are problematic on their own (kind of hard to get killed by melee if you have them), so cutting them from the book and doing the opposite (turret) sounds good. "Trance" is a good theme for the spell too! Also danr, not allowing the "Steady Hand" spell while ...

minmay, that's a good point. I also see what szanth is saying but you could also say that if it's already a problem, there shouldn't be more of it. I don't think the idea is too bad to not include it, but if a better one comes up it should go in instead. Another way might be that the rooted/unrooted...

Optional: we could make one Hive portal vault granted. This bit from the Hive proposal in the wiki suggests that multiple hive portal vaults could be spawned during a game. I like that idea very much. Also, we should spawn harder hive maps deeper down in the dungeon. Hardness could be increased wit...

On reflection, I think the key thing with AMs, more fundamental than the hexes / charms issue, is the fact that they cannot afford to make their bow their main weapon right out of the gate. If they are designed to be hybrid melee / ranged fighters they should start with a melee weapon and skill as ...

The timer mechanic has been changed (for the non-announced vaults): now there is a slow counter until you see the vault, then a fast one. There are no messages for all types of timed portal vaults because we don't want to turn all those levels into races for the portal. The non-announced vaults usu...

I like co's movement idea. One problem: when resting, you become rooted, and if a monster that you'd like to run away from appears, you're a bit screwed. Now, this isn't a problem in itself, but you could tediously avoid this problem by "resting" via moving back and forth. One possible sol...

I think the Aviary sounds like a good idea for an early portal vault.

--Eino

I like the turret mode, phantasmal arrow and see invisible ideas for AM. Corona can be used against invisible foes, but if it gets replaced then See Invisible would fit in nicely. However, the ench-split is still a moving, changing thing. Today on ##crawl-dev kilobyte was considering making the bran...

I've had this idea in my personal notes of ideas for Crawl since 2000.. and it took me years to realize how it's not really very good. ;) I also had construct races in there. Where you could choose if they were elven made, or dwarven made, or human made etc... dwarven iron golem! I think the right w...

It's an interface thing so it wouldn't require balancing etc, which takes time. If we got an outside patch, I'm pretty sure it could go in before 0.8 (hint hint). And one of the devs might decide to implement it as well, who knows. The "official wishlist" (i.e. release plan) is just a bit ...

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