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duvessa wrote:(also, you got two level 9 spells but not controlled blink or ddoor or borgnjor's?)

Would cblink have gotten me anything on Z5? I thought it was equivalent to scrolls of blinking which act uncontrolled on Z5.

I've never learned to use the high level necro scrolls.

Sandman25 wrote: not hasted and not phased-shifted was bad too.

+ stoneskin - yes, what I meant by "slight amount of thinking" -- completely unaccountable & dumb.

Good strategic advice about prioritizing fighting/dodging. But mostly just overconfident about being such a badass. Oh hai: firestorm.

I've never had a problem with Zot 5. Had a DEFE who faced three OOFs and wiped them out with iron shot. And yet a DECj who can cast hungerless Shatter and Firestorm gets wiped out by one OOF and a pack of draconians. This was a time for hands off the keyboard and just a slight amount of thinking... ...

I never ever use restore abilities and this would not change if it removed drain I've been bothered by this statement for a while. It's equivalent to the statement: "I would never quaff a potion that would raise all my trained skills by a point or two for a reasonable duration" I just don...

WRT bleach, utility of: Please note that Orcs hoard !confusion like crazy. So by all means, take your !confusion and !paralysis and such, go up to a nice quiet level with a room where you can lock the door, and get slizzzard on your sizzurp. Your character will thank you for it; being a dungeon craw...

75% of all of this would be solved by a magic power like UI for weapon speed and damage: E.g., demon whip vs great mace at 5 skill (making the numbers up) Weapon Speed Damage Per Hit Average Damage Demon Whip ######******| #####**| foo Great Mace #*****| #######***| bar Other 25% would be solved by ...

Draining is only restored by gaining exp, waiting does nothing. I didn't mean rest waiting, I meant going around killing stuff for a long time. Most of the time, the effect isn't that harmful, but if a big fight, or with red Drained status, it can be pretty deadly. As other people have noted, the e...

Ooooo: you could also have different spell effects if you were confused, and the effects could change depending on the B/U/C status of the scroll! And if you are going to have dipping into Holy/Unholy water, maybe you could dip other things. Like if you dip a scroll into water you'd have a blank scr...

I've been annoyed by Drained lately (which is probably a good thing: shows that the Draining change matters). The downside of draining is that all you can do is wait the damn thing out. That's especially yucky with red Drained. So why not make some potion available to reverse draining? The easiest t...

I ascended NH with all characters, & and with wishless, pacifist, atheist & non-weapon wielding conduct ascensions. Worked on a genocide ascension but got bored. It got so that you had to ascend wielding only a trunk to be truly badass. Every character in NH ends up looking the same at the e...

Squamous is a kind of epithelial tissue found on the outside layers of your skin. However, squamous is just the shortened term for it, the correct way to say it would be "all pseudo stratified squamous epithelial tissue Johnson's flapping in the breeze." "Squamous" means "s...

Who else wears cloak, gloves, boots, hat and nothing on underneath.

Why aren't there more fish in the shoals. I would expect a relatively even distribution independent of other encounters with fish. When I apply Fisher's Exact Test, I see that the pipi value shows no difference in Lair ponds vs Shoals. If there were Bayes in the Shoals, I might be able to assess th...

Best multilingual multidiscipline pun evar....

An iron shot is a big 'ol iron spheroid, that you might throw in someone's face to turn it to mush.

Like, y'know, this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_put

Had my first runelock game. MiGl of Oka, wielding staves (got a nice lajatang of speed from ?acquire). Was wasted in Snake:5 Impressions: removing the post Orc D13:D20+ experience grind makes the strategic decisions sharper. In this case, I found some nice charms, and diverted experience there to ge...

BlackSheep wrote:
Psieye wrote:f - the amulet of Cekugob (around neck) {Ward -Tele Hunger rElec rPois rN+ AC+1 EV+1}

With intrinsic rElec, poison immunity and rN+, why??

Because of the blink to get out of the way of the immolation.

Deaths by Sigmund or Orc Priest not due to overconfidence are rather rare.

Fight the TRJ in the corridor of the central vault, so it can't overwhelm you with its summons. Bring more beam wand (draining, cold, fire), because if TRJ start fleeing behind summoned jellies you want a way to kill it before it's out LOS. Just had a dude die in slime from not following this exact...

Probably should have bailed, hit TP, then gone downstairs. Instead, tried to battle my way out, not so good (confused, miasma'd, and down HP by the time I finally bailed to an open area of Z1 filled with draconians and dragons).

Was this a particularly nasty vault, or particularly nasty bad luck?

Lotsa levels of Charms and/or Tloc.

That's fine, but you set up the syllogism in your first post a.) in ideal play all fights are "popcorn" and b.) "popcorn" is boring so c.) ideal play is boring. I personally get bored mid-late game. That's a true statement. I don't find the actual tactics (which I'm asserting in...

Also the whole game theory approach falls down because you can run from fights . It doesn't fall down, but it's more complicated to be sure. I defined the base state as full HP/MP and no enemies in sight. When you see an enemy, you have the option to engage or flee, and when you engage, you always ...

Obviously (or obviously not, since I have to explain it, as people have taken it seriously) I meant the thread title tongue in cheek. (Although I think the first sentence shows that I'm not taking it too seriously). That being said, I find the observation useful, probably because my natural style is...

If survival of going into battle is 95%, but survival of not going into battle is 96%, then by the odds, you should not have gone into the fight. I think of Crawl as a series of states, where the normal state is full HP/MP and no enemies in sight. When I reach an "enemy in sight" state, m...

HenryFlower: This may work out for Crawl (and constitutes a design deficit, in my opinion) but you cannot turn this into a "proof" or anything. A game could easily punish even non-extreme paranoia severely, forcing you to assess risks all the time: you try to take the best route which, wh...

The vast majority of fights are ~0% probability of death since it's quite reasonable to tailor fights using terrain, spells, abilities, consumables ect. to either make victory easy, and for the off chance your losing, run from the fight. That's kind of my point... The art of Crawl is turning every ...

Sandman25 wrote:Probabilities don't work in a game which is random and hideous by design.

That's missing the point: given that there are 100s of low probability deadly events, the only rational way to behave is extreme paranoia. Because math.

Warning: this post may be this side of obvious. Hopefully, it's just on the other side... Reading Jared Diamond on "Constructive Paranoia" (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15766601-the-world-until-yesterday, brief intro of the concept here: http://www.hemispheresmagazine.com/2012/12/01/...

This is the awesomest thread evar.

I have great difficulty reading philosophy after Wittgenstein, which is probably the point. Fly, bottle, exit. This extends even to PI, although I still re-read On Certainty with admiration.

dpeg wrote:I cleared a Bailey, including high level orcs, on mushrooms

But you thought they were newts at the time?

I'm pretty solid on SpEn through Orc (fall apart after that) using the Hyperbolic approach, but targeting short blades 8, stealth 10 instead of stabbing 8 as the first skill target. I don't know what the Hyperbolic approach is http://crawl.develz.org/info/inline.php?q=hyperbolic My 0.12 SpEn guide:...

When making stab attacks to one-shot the incapacitated, min delay doesn't matter. When attacking conscious enemies, a dagger of speed can barely make a dent on enemies with any sort of armour. I'd definitely go for a different brand on a dagger (barring crazy enchantment bonuses + slaying). When at...

preferably erring on the side of too many dudes instead of too damn few This. In addition, key criteria should be giving good advice to newbies (including 3 runers working on endgame). Should be (IMHO) be looking for good advice on the 99.9% of cases relevant for that population, not on code spelun...

By all means, be ultra picky with counsellors, because there are so many who post so frequently that culling the herd is essential. FWIW, I'm a better player due to the advice of both minmay and psieye, as well as the advice of folks like rchandra who aren't blue. As far as I've seen, if psieye is i...

A foo of couldn't take 88 HP in a single go. That should have been "a foo of couldn't take 88 HP damage in a single go despite AC of 38 and despite having previously wiped out: Saint Roka (D:17), Norris (D:17), Kirke (D:14), Rupert (D:14), Aizul (D:16), Wiglaf (D:17)" Just so lurkers know...

DeathKnyte wrote:However, if you had no idea he could cast LCS, then it would fall into the "live and learn", or more aptly as "die and learn" category.

YASD if not looking up "new to you" uniques in the bot is defined as Stupid. But it's all "die and learn" :-)

Gulp.

http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php?q=Erolcha

But LCS is both randomly assigned and spread over a wider spell set, and Erolcha has lower overall power. Still, I often underestimate her,

http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php?q=Jory

Jory has guaranteed LCS and knows how to use it.

A foo of couldn't take 88 HP in a single go.

MiFi, for what it's worth.

So crystal spear, on D20. Fun. Thanks, DevTeam...

Yep, had summon butterflies.

A recent YASD of mine got some nice Oka gifts (vampiric lajanang and +11 randart crystal plate) but found exactly one !CureMutation and no rMut. By a few levels into Pan, I had assembled nice set of mutations even post single cure quaff (slow healing 1, fast metabolism 3, herbivore 1, -20% HP, burry...

D20-27

And, we're dead.

A bit of key mashing, rather than hitting 'o' took me a few steps too far into a centaur warrior and cyclops. Did fog + teleport, should have done fog + swiftness. Alas.

That was a fun run, will try it again.

Good advice, al1.

I'd enchant the IDA - Troll HP means walking around with a negative resistance is OK in most places (and you can swap in rF). Acquire wand, probably. I like UC 22 since it passes a breakpoint (21.6) and is also the heroism point. But you could get more defenses first, your offense is probably not l...

I would never, ever, ever, ever train anything with negative aptitude. I hated to train anything with 0 aptitude.

I've never had a successful monk, but this guy is doing reasonably well. Found an IDA earlyish, and faute de meiux, spent a ? of EA on it. Now have another ? of EA, so I have a real decision to make about whether to make this my endgame armor, or stash the scroll until I find something better. So th...

DeathKnyte wrote:And finally Bolt of Magma l;ooks like something similar to Iron Shot, but shorter range.

And, you know, a bolt spell, useful when you want to kill bunches of things in one go.

I was thinking more of the opportunities for Nemelex spam.

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