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I haven't experimented with Uskayaw yet, but I'm wondering if yelling would be part of optimal play. eg there's a crowd of popcorn coming which I'm 100% sure of safely defeating, so do a yell in hopes of pulling in something dangerous on the level which (under Usk) would be worse to fight by itself....

killer vs. ikiller for Vaults:1 [12:06] <mattlistener> !Lg * recent !boring place=V:1 s=killer [12:06] <Sequell> 1017 games for * (recent !boring place=V:1): 125x a vault warden, 81x a yaktaur captain... 12x an ironheart preserver... [12:07] *sequell* !Lg * recent !boring place=V:1 s=ikiller [12:07]...

My current DrFE is a cyan-grey Draconian with steam breath. Some things I've learned about steam: Steam kills things even after the early game. I had gotten the impression it does next-to-no damage. Breath comes off cooldown very quickly. It's usable every fight, or multiple times in a fight if ther...

I love Ashenzari. I hope to win with Ash someday. In particular, "Passwalling stabber" is a gameplay style that is unique to Ash. Improve as you will but please don't remove.

One person can easily be any number of "distinct employers" via LLCs.

Thanks advil for the guidance about ckiller and ikiller. I have gone back over all the data looking at those summaries and updated my list where appropriate. Player Ghosts hover around #3 deadliest throughout the early dungeon starting at D3 (where they're #2). Ugly things taken as a group are the d...

Boo.

Wiki updated.

I thought at XL15 I was going to get the opportunity to tell my Knight Ancestor that she was a polearm user -- which was a pretty significant part of my build plan considering I'm doing a lot of Conjure Flame / reach. However: You kill the orc sorcerer! You have reached level 15! Your experience lea...

Titan's in Crypt are from Oka's wrath: !lg * !boring recent crypt:2 s=cikiller Cerebot: 78 games for * (!boring recent crypt:2): 17x the fury of Okawaru, 8x Khufu, 6x a vampire knight, 5x a phantasmal warrior, 4x a curse skull, 3x a necromancer, 3x a lich, 3x a vampire mage, 3x Mennas, 3x an ancien...

cerealjynx wrote:Shock Serpents are assholes.

Also note the dual appearance of Spark Wasps on Spider4 and Depths5.

rElec is more relevant than it used to be.

I note that many of the deadliest are ranged enemies. Some of that is probably from stealing the killing blows from melee monsters.

With thanks to mibe420, here is the requested overview of the deadliest monster per floor, from 0.19 on, where "deadliest" = "most player kills". Interestingly, certain uniques made the list. http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=%23%23crawl /msg sequell !Lg * recent !boring plac...

Anyone with Sequell skills care to create and share here a table of the deadliest monster for each dungeon and branch level? (Where "deadliest" = responsible for more player deaths at that level than any other monster.) Or I am happy to if I can get an assist on the methodology. :-) EDIT: ...

Assuming a player has memorized the entire Crawl Monster's Compendium, the only enemies that they still need to Xv and study upon encountering them are player ghosts, Pandemonium Lords, and... anything else? This seems like a form of variablity in game experience that would be a shame to cut rather ...

Has the case really been made here that ghosts are structurally *impossible* to balance? To address the top-most cases above you could put a floor on their melee damage and a ceiling on their allowed spell levels, based on ghost level and/or dungeon level. You could scale their AC more appropriately...

A better ability description would seem to be appropriate here.

Tombstone: chopped to bits by a spriggan berserker with a friggin +1 antimagic hand axe vs. my 42 AC and 24% GDR.

Doing better on this one! Also here's a first for me: I received two gifts simultaneously. Unfortunately both were ammo. Which is super-boring now that branded ammo isn't a thing anymore. 12225 | D:9 | Killed Erica 12225 | D:9 | Received a gift from Okawaru 12225 | D:9 | Reached ***** piety under Ok...

Ok, how dangerous is this ghost, really? It has 6 plusses of EV, but can only hit for "up to 1 damage". If it had spells I would see them, right? AlphaOmegaStrife's ghost. The apparition of AlphaOmegaStrife the Covert, a novice Spriggan Assassin of Nemelex Xobeh. Max HP: 44 AC + EV +++++ +...

Thanks for the replies. I like "can this kill me?" as a mantra to snap me out of my "having fun" trance.

On the subject of Centaur bow users -- after the Str/Dex reform, should I be raising Str or Dex?

I just splatted a promising Centaur who found a +2 trident of venom, a +3 leather armour, and a +6 ring of slaying by dungeon level 5. I just don't seem to be able to train myself to respond properly to the one thing in a hundred that can kill me. I let an "extremely dangerous" ghost follo...

That does sound cool! From the OP I liked this most: "******: while being stationary, every killed enemy gives a +slaying bonus (like song of slaying), the bonus resets when you move (obviously a cap is needed)" It's anti-luring and a nice contrast to the more recent high-mobility gamepla...

iirc there was a proposal a while back for a hunter god that I recall being pretty interesting because it discouraged luring- you marked a target and got perma vision of them and damage buffs, but having it go outside of Los for too long cost piety. You also got bonus piety for killing things that ...

Is a spellcast that does a mean of 16 damage before checking full AC strictly better than a spellcast that does a mean of 14 damage over two segments (like a doublezap) before checking 1/2 AC?

Super useful post, thanks!!! Edit: random2 doesn't mean "Roll this twice and average the results". My bad. Worth calling out the poorer accuracy of Throw Flame compared to Flame Tongue (8+power/10 vs. 11+power/6)? Range is nice but average damage per MP seems more important when MPs are in...

When I choose between weapons, I'm trying to make the best choice for my character based on what I have available. It's not the same with gods. I want to have varied gameplay experiences so I will choose not-maximal but reasonable gods for my character and have fun trying to win with them. Put diffe...

I'd expect a successful "introduce fatigue" campaign would be followed by a successful "remove fatigue" campaign.

If it's intentional, '55' would be less of a pain than '5Y'.

I really like the idea of three-flavored stair pairs.

A more visually-restrained way of doing it would be normal, spiral staircase, and split staircase.

Example of the latter: https://www.houzz.com/photos/2335675/Fl ... case-other

tabstorm wrote:I wonder what the correspondence between Dungeon time and real time is. Digestion speed is probably the most useful metric.

It can take a few years to fully recover from injuries that brought one to the brink of death, so there's that too.

yesno wrote:make beogh smite to death non-HO beoghites carrying the orb when they try to ascend d:1 stairs, and print a message about beogh thanking them for their great deed on behalf of the orcish people

You are about to leave the dungeon with the Orb! Leave Beogh first? [Y/N]

Maybe for Demigods to remain as a race they should have something more interesting about them than "we don't have a conduct system so you have to play as this race for people to know at a glance that you played the whole game godless." That would imply that they got *nothing* in exchange ...

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it would be cool to have a screen where you could select the title you could use from a list of ones you qualify for Instead of a whole new UI screen, it could just be a placeable flag on the skilling screen. Flag a skill you have >0 in, see the results in your character description. Or remove it t...

Crawl is a weird beast for me. I am not willing to become the supercautious, "don't fight unless you're 100% sure" character. I want to win the game while having the most fun. All of my wins have been while sustaining this mindset. Then I lose for a lot of times and it seems that fun and g...

It's a cool restriction and it's cool that it is represented through something other than self-held honor rule gimmick runs. This is an argument for a game-supported conduct system, something that the Nethack I once played did. I thought it was super-cool. You could realize halfway through a game t...

dolemite99 wrote:
amaril wrote:Is that because of its high damage-per-zap?

If you can place the Lightning Spire one square from a wall and get enemies to walk between, the doublezap punches above weight for a level 4 spell.

All I see is a tiny help for characters who can already fight multiple opponents at a time In the creator's vision, there was more benefit available by setting up Lunge opportunities by using Whirlwind and Wall Jump to put a status effect on an enemy and end up in a position you can Lunge at them f...

Serpent's Lash combos with Heavenly Storm by extending it. If you need help 1v1, you can run away or pillar dance until energy variance opens up a space between you for a Lunge. Same-speed chasers will occasionally get a hit in on you. Anything is speculative while it remains in development, of cour...

I tried to play a Dg as part of my "Complete the Pantheon" quest and essentially died of boredom. Can we find a way to give them something??

Is there consensus that the cursed item mechanic is bad? It creates a risk/reward decision space for some characters that need better defenses or killingness than they currently have, as opposed to just having full knowledge of all available equipment (via equip-ID) and using what's best. Later on, ...

Gold must be feeling super scarce!

Siegurt wrote:
ThreeInvisibleDucks wrote:And as a felid, statform + Oka >> zerking because +5 UC/Dodging/Stealth and double attack speed, cuz that's how I like 'em apples (vs. oranges).

Yes, three different bonuses stacked together is better than one....

A better comparison would be statform + Hero/Fin vs. nostatform + Berz/BiA.

I disagree with the main point here because leveling Fighting to 27 before putting points into anything else is certainly a choice with an opportunity cost, as is any other ratio of Fighting vs. other skills including zero. "more HP or ____" is not a very meaningful choice because the answ...

If Hep is considered already on the strong side, what power reduction would you suggest to go along with the above?

In all seriousness, why not have HP/MP reset to full when you have no threats? eg not poisoned/fainting/etc, no enemies in LOS, and no enemies on the level are on their way to where they remember seeing/hearing you.

In fairness, monsters that have any regen could do the same.

Any analysis of the state of riposte needs to take account of the fact that passive riposte damage occurs when you are not taking weapon-swinging actions. (Running away, using consumables, casting spells, invoking, evoking, etc.) I assume that the benefit of the above would need to be balanced by lo...

Riposte has saved my hide a few times by killing things I was trying to get away from.

Mark did me in. Had used up cancellation, got caught too far from stairs. Entire vault branch was stone walls so no Passwalling around. Probably missed the point where Teleport was less risky than waiting out the door ward. I had killed Saint Roka just a few minutes earlier with just two casts of Pe...

I currently have an Ashenzari worshipper going and yeah, it's a bit of a bummer that he has no use for Transfer Knowledge. Straight up free XP seems boring and maybe too powerful. I could see it being like the peak skills of some other gods -- you can do a one-time Transfer Knowledge OR you can get ...

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