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This topic is the kinda uplifting unifying nonsense topic I've been missing

Beer and soap (sold separately)

fr: new unique, bladd adder, also pairs nicely with existing unique edmund for bonus boris/natasha style joke

Well this is pretty rude

Sometimes you hope something tired will go away if you just don't look at it or comment on it

TheSilverBeluga wrote:What's so special about Rabisu Reddragon that made you decide to spell out his species name? Everyone else only got the two letter abbreviation.

For she is a GARRRGOYYYYLE OUR MIGHTY MELEE LORD AND SAVIOUR, PLAY GARGOYLE, EASIEST OF ALL RACES

Also hey guys an average m+f apt doesn't mean "stop using giant clubs"

This thread is great, I was just waiting Imo bring back high elves, make them start with a joint, and every 420 auts they stop for a few auts to toke blaze it up MAYBE THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT ENOUGH for you murdevs (which is murder plus devs) edit: OH WAIT OH SHIT killlller idea man, also, after a l...

Sprucery wrote:Sure, Fedhas is good. But generally I'll take the first viable god I find.

#crawlgodstrategy

Trolls are you know, decent without a weapon too, also

Man the dowan and duvessa incest thing, that'll never get old right

Yeah, rename them to an oft-repeated stereotype about autistic people, that'll show them!

njvack wrote:It might be more interesting if, say, Vehumet were to allow players to delay one of any supported conjuration or something.

I actually really love this idea

You're right, I can't read minds. All I have to go on is context. If the OP posted again and said, "no, sincerely, I wanted to have an actual discussion about racism in crawl, I didn't mean for my post to have a facetious and judgemental tone," I'm definitely open to that. As it stands, bo...

Vamp is not that great with bad defense and low HP. Neither is pain. Here's why I dislike the Pain brand: It encourages players to spend xp on Necromancy, instead of [Fighting/Weapon/Armour]. This encourages them to learn Necromancy spells. This encourages them to wear light armor, instead of chain...

WHAT YEAR IS IT

who don't actually play crawl (I know it's quite a few of you) I've been playing Crawl for years off and on, won several times, died a lot more. Did you all do something in particular to kick the habit? Did you start up a different game, take up smoking, what? I mean, I even got married and I still ...

Gozag is the fiddling with permafood god, and that's why I don't play Sp despite them being absurdly good- I want to think about Crawl food as little as possible. So I also don't play Gozag.

If you'll recall, I treated the OP like the (shitty, unfunny, intentionally inflammatory) joke that it was, until people actually started chiming in about racism in crawl and the last time "it's just a joke, why are you even bothered?" was a legitimate defense of shitty behaviour was appro...

Yes, and the punchline of the joke was "progressives are dumb lol"

Crawl is not a figurative case study or treatise on race relations in the real world and none of the species in the game represents or stands in for actual marginalized groups in any way- though the original post I am reacting to might have you feel differently edit: duvessa summed it up better than...

human concept of racism, which is discrimination against members of the same species So it's racist if you could have babies together? What if you're not sure? e.g. can high and deep elves even procreate? Do you have to check before you can be racist? This is a thought-provoking discussion to have....

Rast wrote:Most characters are better off without training necromancy at all.

well that's a new one

Just gonna point out, there's a pretty big difference between fantasy "races" (which crawl in a beautiful moment termed "species") and the human concept of racism, which is discrimination against members of the same species on a purely cosmetic and social basis

Two things:

1. This is a completely stupid interaction, I agree

2. Don't fight the kraken

The funny thing is there are plenty of reasons to remove beogh that have nothing to do with some grand farting on about some perceived thrust towards progressivism in crawl

The unfunny thing is the OP

we are all flagellants of the highest order in the grand scheme of video game self-penance

yesno wrote:reading tavern is not what you are supposed to do when you have acid

or at all really

Ru is the god of teaching you that you don't need all the stuff you think you need to win

So don't track them down and just go down the stairs instead

Would just like to second the power of ice form, as it is my personal favourite spell in the Tm book.

I was criticising your rhetoric, not your content I don't care enough about necromutation to have a stake on either side of it My word choice of "dismissal" in my first response was, I suppose, poor What bothered me, primarily, was you engaging in a discussion about this and implying that ...

I am surprised we cannot call tavern meme tavern meme :) I never said you can't How did I "dismiss" the point of Necromutation being bad? I think I clearly explained why I don't think it is. It's entirely likely you did, but a quick skim of your post indicated that your rhetoric turned me...

gfgf45550 wrote:Do you know, that blade hands prohibit using wands? So why does such a "realistic thing" exist in game? According to your logic in this thread it should be removed.

The logic is that realism shouldn't supercede good game design, not that there is nothing that's somewhat realistic

A dismissal of a point using the phrase "tavern meme" and a throwaway Hitler hyperbole in one post, all wrapped up in a back and forth about necromutation

probably time to update tavern bingo

It seems that you're awfully fond of putting words in my mouth You started it first with your "I just think you choose a really poor example to support your point". I really didn't have any points, I just provided an example of hard VM which I played. Is it that hard to understand? I appa...

Xom is the chaos god, Zin is the god of order. Makes sense Zin isn't down with Xom.

It seems that you're awfully fond of putting words in my mouth

Because they aren't backgrounds that rely on movement to kill safely on a species that penalizes movement. This is my whole point.

edit: well except ice beasts and sticky flame, maybe I need to reassess here lol, VM really definitely does suck

Right but lots of other VMs are better. Your problems with NaVM are naga problems, not strictly VM problems.

Yeah that's the thing, it's a really great example of why aptitudes matter less than lots of other species-related factors in determining whether a combo is good or not It's pretty unhelpful to discuss NaVM when talking about VM power (for the record I agree that VM isn't very good, I just think you...

Ah yes the age old classic of playing a background whose safest, best play stems from kiting things around on a species that can't kite things around safely

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ZipZipskins wrote:Well this is pretty rude

Please forgive my humor
it can be shallow and crude
but if you want to come at me, bro
I'll dis you, too, via haiku

nah

Ha nice try, but everyone knows kebabs were removed in 0.7 and replaced with pizzas. That was like fifty years ago so update your jokes accordingly.

Well this is pretty rude

Semantic debates on the meaning of tactics is definitely the best way to deal with shining eyes

Real answer: javelins

Also the term "food" is only on there one time, you missed a quality joke opportunity

Player ghosts are balance nonsense and everyone knows it. The way changes to species affect player ghosts shouldn't really enter the discussion

Red gives you a free pass for more than several levels.

yeah sorry but the current layout is pretty good because it provides commonsense category based sorting a general-case "use" or "equip" command would start off okay in any given game but quickly become overwhelming. I would constantly be asking myself "but can't I have a men...

My favourite thing about this is that Spriggans are distantly related to food

Can something go into their species description about that

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