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Fighting should stay, as long as Spellcasting does. I propose these changes: 1. Fighting is trained by doing any kind of attacks , be it melee, ranged, or even spell-based. 2. In terms of training Fighting, Melee is (much) better than Ranged, and Ranged is (much) better than Spell-based. 3. There ar...

Oh dang, I forgot that Wizards don't get Throw Flames anymore as a starting spell.

The overpowered new spell, Tornado, gave me my first win ever.

I like the changes to Okawaru (Heroism and Finesse are really cool).

I love it when I do something hilariously stupid. Like when I stubbornly armed and unarmed my SpCK of Lugonu with a dagger of distortion, just to get the banishment effect so that I could have some fun in Abyss. So stubbornly I did that until the dagger gave my SpCK a yellow glowing, giving him seve...

And let's not forget that Shatter destroys potions on the ground.

(That sucks, really...)

^ LOL!

Wow, what? Now that's some randart dagger!

EDIT: This kind of reminds me of that time when my Wizard went down to D:13 with only Throw Flame since he hadn't got better offensive spells.

Not a bad idea.

Hey, actually I got a very powerful yet weird pet too in my last game. It was in Zot:5 and I got an Electric Golem after using a Deck of Summoning. :shock:

No it wasn't a hostile one turned friendly by Crusade card effect, because the golem disappeared after a while like it was summoned. :?:

I seriously hate Amulet of Faith.

It's funny how a supposedly good item can cause so much annoyance.

Is it intended?

Thanks.

I knew for sure when I found that Archmagi Robe in that shop, "Now this hybrid is gonna launch like a rocket!"

Woohoo, my 2nd win! :D 8-) Demonspawn is really strong. Mutation sets are great. :D (My 1st win was a DS too!) Basically these were my winning recipe: 1. Nemelex (God of RAPE :lol: ) 2. PAGG (Poison Arrow Gatling Gun 8-) ) 3. A successful experiment on hybrid character (this character was a more bad...

Yeah, don't give up.

Unless Tornado has been nerfed lately, use it.

@dpeg:
The only really worthwhile thing about Crawl's Ogres is that they're challenging. What a broad "niche" it is.

What's so fun with squishy and beefy? I don't think "squishy" is a "character" people usually expect from something they play as. I don't think it's such a cool thing to boast about how squishy your favorite race is. But to boast about how Mummies don't need to eat at all.... Whi...

(ogres have character too. everyone has character except for maybe some of the middling strength races like minotaurs vs mountain dwarves. that or I don't know what you mean by character.) (also the quotes weren't in support of any ogre proposal; they were simply to refute a silly point by applying...

vintermann wrote: As I said, Mummies have character

^ Get that.

Challenging =/= Characterless

^ hi grandpa

Yeah, Throw Icicle will save your day.

Yeah dude, the early game should be a breeze, but when you hit the midgame....

Yeah, that was exactly my problem with my first SpCk of Lugonu: spreading EXP on too many skills. Most of the game was basically a hit-and-run-and-hit-and-run-again, quite annoying.

I've tried a Troll Conjurer.

He died, and his life was ROUGH.

The more I think about it, the more I feel that acvar's opinion (about ogres not being the best candidate for a challenge race because they're too well-defined) is true.

Ah well, whatever.

Wait... how big is a Hobgoblin? Big enough to be unable to wear armors?

I guess I can say that how the devs treat the playable Ogre race reflects how much they want the game to be popular.

evktalo wrote:Going against expectations (esp. new players') is a very good point.

It is... as long as the player finds it to be cool and fun.

Trying a race which is normally big, bad, and mean but finding it to be rather crappy instead... now that's not really cool.

@MrMisterMonkey:
I think that is easily solvable by adding a "deactivate all charm spells" option.

How about making the buff spells suck the player's MP continuously as long as they're active? So, just for an example: 1. Let's say that Repel Missile sucks 2 MP, and is active for 10 turns, 2. The player activates it, and so reduces his MP by 2, 3. 10 turns later, if the player doesn't deactivate t...

I like this. I think this is actually quite interesting. Abilities could be: 1. resistance to fire, ice, electricity, negative energy (passive, increases with piety), 2. damage shaving (passive, increases with piety), 3. random effects while praying (consumes piety) --> temporary invulnerability, HP...

This is interesting.

You should try finishing Swamp first.

And... have you ever fought Xtahua before? Why did you shoot him with a bolt of flame?

"The minotaur loves your scent."
"The minotaur pulls out something which freaks you out for a second."
"The minotaur dies happily." <-- when the cow kills it

As I understand it, acvar's idea is basically removing temporary foods for most races, while keeping the hunger system intact. Maybe if acvar's idea gets implemented, we can see a lot more permafoods littering the dungeon, to make up for the lost of tempfoods for most races.

Maybe...?

There should be a God of RNG in the game. :lol:

acvar is one hell of a radical dude, but not in a bad sense. :) acvar, have you considered these? 1. We're playing DCSS which isn't an original game, but instead a "child" of Linley Henzel's DC. 2. DCSS hasn't even reached it's 1.0 version yet. You shouldn't say the food system is broken i...

Give Ogres more HP.

Armors reduce damage, but when we deal with something like Hellfire which ignores AC? That should be the time when Ogres really shine.

Don't give me negative points for being able to see some lights in acvar's post. :p

But you're crazy, acvar.

With Ash, you don't have to worry about:
1. Unseen Horrors
2. Abyss (Scry, Scry, and Scry

)
3. What skills to spend your EXP on
4. Some other things.

Don't be surprised when a ghost of your former Draconian spits a draining attack. "What the heck? I'm pretty damn sure I never got that Draconian to learn Bolt of Draining!" You're right, but that's actually not a spell but just a simple Draconian breath.

HOLY FCKING COW!!!

We don't play Crawl to re-enact our fantasy imaginations (DnD, LOTR, etc). We play Crawl to... satisfy our masochism instincts. Or some other reasons which are similar to it. :D :D :D Well, I myself would want the races and classes of Crawl to exactly mirror those of traditional fantasy culture... b...

Other genres are safer analogs. For instance, I consider driving in Boston to be a bullet hell. LOL :D But won't you feel like pressing the "restart" button if something bad happens? :) EDIT: or you may feel like having more than one life, so it's okay to fail sometimes :o Right now, I fe...

@galehar: I think you misunderstood me. Yes it has to be as clear as possible to new players, but it doesn't have to be accomplished via giving away informations which are out of character or not flavorful . The game thus may tell the player that ctele is not working currently, but please don't do i...

Right now I feel like an Ashenzari worshipper. I just started my career as a novelist. I've learned a lot since several months ago: writing techniques, language skills, creating good storylines, good characters, etc, etc. So, yeah, I feel like I'm reaping tons of EXP. So Ashenzari. :D What do you fe...

HA HA HA HA HA

That is one of the most hilarious things I see this week.

Age: 27 Sex: Male Ethnicity: Asian Citizenship: Indonesian Languages spoken: English, Indonesian Education: IT Occupation: Game Developer, Writer, Comic Artist Computer platform: Windows DCSS versions played: Tiles, offline Play Crawl because: It's challenging. Background story as a Crawl Player: I ...

In Crawl, Bad Habits die, but so are you.

Fighting Nikola when you're not in an open area is...

S T U P I D

When you have a long-term plan on a certain high-level spell, you just will NOT find any spellbooks containing that damn spell.

Dammit, why don't everybody thank co for his/her post:

Thank you zasvid! But our rune is in another branch!

I don't remember specifically how they behave. They're like Skeletal Warriors, maybe a bit stronger. As long as you fight them one by one, you will be okay, I guess. The problem with Skeletal Warriors is that those dudes tend to attack you in a pack, but you can fight the Ancient Champions one by on...

I have. I destroyed them all, no problem.

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