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Imps a very good in the early game. Ghosts are completely harmless, as they are locked in vaults.

Well done, but why do you have 7 free spell levels and several useful spells unmemorized?

Ouch, I am bad with Chei generally as well, I'm not sure I could do that :)

Ok so I decided I'm never going to play DD without Makh, Ely or Trog again... I thought I could pull a 3-runer with Kiku but I'm clearly not a careful enough player for that. (don't be fooled by the title, this is my first ever escape without the orb) Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.23.2 (tiles) ...

Price: lose all piety. The character is an OgAs of Dith and the Trove on Elf:2. c - the +6 spear "Milusosi" {pierce, +Fly rPois rF+ Stlth+} g - the +0 hat "Vuzanem" {*Drain rN+ Slay+2 SInv} m - a glowing robe H - the +3 crown of Dyrovepreva (worn) {rElec Int+2 SInv} e - an uncurs...

Contam would not be a problem normally, just don't unwield it. But the rF- combined with Contam makes it not worth it in my opinion. So personally, I would wait until I have rF from somewhere. But if you want a melee weapon and not just a stat stick, you might have a better one already at that point...

There's no need to max your resists. A single pip is enough and you shouldn't compromise your AC or EV even for that single pip. For Zot you want at least rF+.

The resists seem to be already covered in that character dump. The rPois from GDS is not important.

As for the idea that removing identification makes the game more boring, again experience with hellcrawl says a lot about that -- namely that it's false. I happen to like the id game. Removing it would make the game more boring for me. Finding unidentified stuff is exciting. Finding an id scroll wh...

Removing the id game would make the game more boring imo.

Generally you want to do Depths before the 3rd rune anyway. This makes you stronger for V:5 as well.

Use your scrolls of enchant armour and enchant weapon. They don't do any good in your inventory.

If you were scared of V:5, you should have gone to the Abyss or Slime instead. Why did you choose Tomb? Tomb is the last place you want to go with this kind of character, after getting the other 14 runes.

Put it this way: would the game suffer much if you started as an XL2/XL3 character on D:2, and everyone began with 1-2 class-determined escape/healing items? Imo the game would really suffer. D:1 is one of the most interesting levels in the whole game. If you can make it through D:1 and especially ...

Items "of wizardry" do not stack??? They kind of do, but not very well. The first item gives the biggest boost, then you get diminishing returns from other items. Also IIRC you can only improve spell success by half with wizardry. Henzell says: There is a cap on spell failure reduction fr...

It seems somehow inappropriate to me that the enslaved Duvessa remains friendly, yet goes berserk, when she kills Dowan. Bug of feature? Duvessa, Sister of Dowan comes into view. She is wielding a +0 short sword. Dowan points at Duvessa and mumbles some strange words. Duvessa seems to speed up. Evok...

So I somehow managed to splat a CeMo of Kiku after my last victory, so no streak again for me. Then a SpHu for 5 runes was up, and I'm happy that I managed to win it and not screw up, as SpHu is a very strong combo. I chose slings just to have enough ammo in the early game. On D:2, I fell through a ...

Snake.

I couldn't answer the survey (I don't want to log in somewhere else to answer a Tavern poll), but I feel 7 levels is too much, 3 would be just fine.

I would probably read the ?fear first, if that fails, quaff !invis.

With Fe +4 stealth apt, I can't understand why someone would not want to train a few levels in the early/mid game regardless of background. My only FeBe so far: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.1 (tiles) character file. 584455 Wrathcat the Ninja (level 24, -2/143 HPs) Began as a Felid Berserker...

mopl wrote:Erf... Vamp + *Drain that really sucks, you won't be able to swap wepons a lot... :roll:

On a GrBe, why would you ever want to swap that wepon though?

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Shadow mimic also mimics Hexes and Dispel Undead (very nice).

AFAIK the manual doubles the skill points you get from experience (raising your skill apt by +4 does this), but cross-training is based on experience points, not skill points.

The manual won't help your LB training at all (it gets a portion of the xp you put into SB, which the manual doesn't change). It is always better to train the skill you actually want instead of a cross-training skill. Use your id scrolls on potions. I wouldn't wear a shield, a buckler is fine if you...

- can I train http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Evocationsas a Trog worshipper or is that considered "magic"? You can and you should. - I sometimes get the message "your skin crawls", but am not sure what this means You got regeneration from somewhere, probably Trog's Hand (I guess yo...

petercordia wrote: Does anyone know how long a petrification lasts?

Knowledge bot says 60+1d40 auts. So 6 to 10 turns assuming 10 aut actions?

HawkI wrote:Lightning resistant jewelry is mostly found in time out bonus areas (I reckon)

No, there's no such mechanism in the game. An artifact ring found in the regular dungeon is just as likely to have rElec.

Leo_Littlebook wrote:I also don't think it's interesting to compare my list to a random one

Sorry, but my list is by no means a random one, it is completely deterministic.

sanka wrote:I do not get the algorithm. Why OpWn instead of OpVM? I also do not really get why the algorithm chose Ashenzari for VpAE instead of Zin.

There was a bug, thanks for noticing! Vp can't worship Zin, that's why Ash.

OK, here's my true combo list, the rules being "each species only once, each background and god": Barachi Abyssal Knight Lugonu Centaur Air Elementalist Ashenzari Deep Dwarf Arcane Marksman Cheibriados Deep Elf Artificer Dithmenos Demigod Assassin Demonspawn Berserker Trog Draconian Chaos ...

Slime Knight has been proposed several times before (by me too), but the dev response has always been "not going to happen". I would be happy with just making Jiyva a temple god (or even just ensuring a Jiyva altar in D). Anyway, in my understanding the probability of getting a new zealot ...

The masks are fine by me, but imo changing your species just does not belong in Crawl.

sanka wrote:I think this is exactly the point: the rune lock is completly unnecessary. All it accomplishes is to exclude interesting challenge games for those who enjoy them.

Yes, I agree. I'm in favour of removing it.

For me personally, having no rune lock wouldn't generally change anything at all. Even currently in all my 3-rune games I do Elf and Crypt for exp and loot. They prepare me for V:5 which I also always do (it's fun). After that I'm strong enough for Zot. I wouldn't like to enter Zot any less prepared...

With body armour, generally you just pick the one that gives you the best AC+EV. MR is the most important resistance, because getting killed due to being paralyzed or banished sucks.

I'm one of those players who train stealth more than most good players would advice. But if you're wearing scale or heavier, the armour is killing your stealth so much that it's not really worth training it.

For weapon skill specifically, the minimum delay is enough in a 3-rune game. It's probably almost always enough in a 15-rune game as well, because you most likely get more benefit from training something else.

I guess the metric we want is "proportion of games where the character died after shafting before getting back to the original level". There should be an increase in this value, but whether the increase is too big would then be for the devs to decide.

It would be interesting to know the average number of shafts per lost game.

You should always train Armour to the point when you gain another point of AC, then train something else if you like. You gain one point of AC for every 22 / (base_AC_of_all_your_armour) levels. For example, with a ring mail (AC 5) only, you'll get one point of AC every 22/5 = 4.4 levels of Armour. ...

petercordia wrote:elec is like a +7 enchantment

What's your reasoning behind this?

Imo Trog is the janitor.

On D:3 there were TSO, Qaz, Trog and Sif. The choice for my DsFE aiming for 4 runes was quite easy to make. In this game I found myself constantly training more Spellcasting to get spell slots, as I always had another spell I wanted. I guess that's what Sif does to you. It was also clear that in a 4...

FR: grant water walking to allied orcs with Beogh.

Could it be possible to create a new branch with existing monsters? The monster set could be selected based on the monster properties, and this would then create the "theme" for the branch. For example, the monster set could include monsters who either 1) have ranged attacks, 2) can go inv...

So ghosts are still based on dead characters? I'm not saying it's like bones stuffing in Nethack but getting help from a dead character seems a bit fishy to me...

(Yes, the current implementation of ghosts as free XP and items to get when you're strong enough is bad too.)

Sounds like this should be adjustable via rcfile. Does it actually force a more prompt with the default rcfile or do you have some customized setting that causes it?

O:1 can still spawn stone giant or ogre magi or even a warlord with a crossbow who are quite deadly for a squishy mage. Or just the risk of sorceror paralysis or of a warg. I wouldn't try it early on even with a VM. It's still better than Lair which will definitely spawn spiny frogs and black mamba...

Hellmonk wrote:and orc needs to always show up after lair

Not for venom mages imo.

I guess the reasoning was that since launchers have brands, their missiles don't need brands. Personally, I would keep penetration for javelins and poisoned for tomahawks and get rid of the other brands. Silver is a border case, it's such a cool brand that it could also stay. Having one brand for to...

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