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so i feel a little shy making another suggestion here after such a nice change was already made, but how about quarterstaves among options for monk starter? just seems like they should have one... It's getting harder and harder to tell Mo and Gl apart... or is that the intention? Stealth removal by...

Um, what if you're not new and still bad at crawl

I've had the chance to play a few Pakellas characters, and I want to give some feedback. First, a few thoughts about the design. My vision of Pak is someone who supports the evocation playstyle, meaning that one can play meaningfully with significant investment in Evo skill (even possibly as the hig...

Do Fi and Gl get UC as a starting option for non-Trolls/Ghouls? If UC isn't a distinguishing feature for Monks anymore then maybe they should.

A lot of your specific proposals have been brought up before https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:combat:weapon_reform See impale for polearms, blocking (parrying), double attack for staves. Also new weapon types that combine different effects. Sadly a lot of these proposals hav...

When choosing a weapon, I think the main consideration is how much damage it does. So brands that don't add damage like Protection and Evasion are in a weird place. The same can be said of Antimagic I suppose, but Antimagic's effect does explicitly scale with damage dealt, and is a much stronger eff...

And I'm out. That was a pretty awful run of 6 games, I'm just surprised I managed to score any points at all. Big thanks to WalkerBoh for organizing this. If it weren't for CSDC I might not have played any crawl at all these past 2 months. But you can probably downgrade me another division or 2 next...

Well at least the great Korean Beogh mystery is resolved - a subcommunity of players found exploits in Beogh, and exploited the heck out of it! So it's not a Korean thing, just a very human thing. Though probably the language barrier kept it from being fixed for longer than it should. Several respon...

Late to this thread, but I'm still pretty happy to read it, if only because it answers the question of Beogh's incongruous popularity in my mind. It seems a subset of users found a way to exploit Beogh, and shared these tactics amongst themselves. In that respect, it doesn't seem different to people...

Going by this post , it appears that the best way to play Beogh is to: 1. Play with a small squad (4-5) 2. Try to get your orcs equipped with spears (not heavier polearms) with multiplicative brands 3. Try to get your orcs equipped with heavy armour and shield The reasoning for spears apparently is ...

Bim wrote:Well lets say you have +4 plate armor and a +0 plate of rPois for lair. Yeah AC is probably the way to go, but poison resist could be useful as well.

+4 body armour has a good chance to be glowing or runed though. So that won't get squashed by the change.

Did the change actually do this? It looks like PF's commit just makes it so that all plain equipment is now +0 and nothing else is changed. Indeed, yes. Be careful what you wish for, guys! :P From the tediousness argument, trying on a zillion +1/+2 glowing leather armour isn't that much better than...

Oh, PF is in Tavern now. I, for one, welcome our new Coleopteran overlord. (Why isn't your name in orange?) tedric's suggestion seems pretty good if you're looking for a low impact change. Might mean that a player would value +acc more on high base damage weapons, which seems reasonable. For critica...

mellonbread wrote:all fruit is represented by the choko tile. In my opinion this is rather bland.

Devwiki might be of interest:

https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php? ... tem:denial

My first reaction to this idea was that it's too fiddly. Now, I don't want to be dismissive - it's obvious that you spent a lot of effort to make it less fiddly (e.g. with the virtual collection), but IMO having to deal with so many items makes it unavoidably fiddly (see old Nemelex). Speaking of wh...

Many of the effects the Charms school gives, however, fill useful design niches, so I'd compensate for their loss by adding their effects back into the game by adding 'charms evokers'. These would function like the elemental evokers in that they'd hold one charge of their respective spell at any on...

For 1 and 2, here's what learndb says: https://loom.shalott.org/learndb.html#unarmed_combat Fighting without a weapon. Base damage is 3 + UC skill (+2 per claws level (so +6 Tr, +2 Gh), +X for forms); delay 10 - UC/5.4; +2 to hit (+4 Tr/Gh). This delay is increased to max(10, 1d10+2dAEVP) - UC/5.4 i...

No permafood drops with Gozag. Proposal- all monsters drop one permafood item simply called "questionable jerky" (or "monster jerky" if you want to avoid any humor) That's already sort of the joke with meat rations. If you cast Simulacrum on a meat ration, you get something from ...

Like Unnethack, perhaps?

Those penalties go away with modest skill investment (5 Shield skill for buckler for normal size race, 3 and 9 respectively for buckler and shield for Fo). Except for UC. So I guess maybe UC Fo might not want to use a shield, but otherwise using one eventually makes sense for Fo.

So in other words, shields still suck? Shields aren't bad necessarily. They're just usually not as good as the gap between common 2-handers and common 1-handers. If you're using a good 1-hander anyway there's no reason to not pick up at least a buckler. Similarly, for Fo getting a shield is practic...

Think positive!

Think of it as the RNG owing you for all the crap stuff it throws at you :lol:

Giant fireflies, obviously.

This thread is still yet to contain any actual reasoning. Actually some was already in the post, but nonetheless; here goes: ⋅ Why do I want to make acid enemy threats more common in the dungeon? ⋅ Right now, the Amulet of Resist Corrosion is mostly useless everywhere, except Sl...

Quick, someone make a surfer dude fake language.

Congrats!

mopl wrote:TotRR ??
SoC ??

ADOM

What ?? I thought we're on the quest for the mighty Orb every time we play.

The Orb is a lie

Their HP is a finite resource that they cannot replace, and they should act throughout the whole game as if losing a significant quantity is the worst thing that can happen to them. Yes, if they blow all their HP before the endgame the endgame will be very hard for them, which is why they should be...

FWIW, Tailored Body Armour was tried in pubby's smithgod, and IMO it was kind of boring. Just made armour restricted characters play more like normal characters. For the idea in general: it feels like you're taking away meaningful decisions from crawl's slot restrictions. For example, instead of cho...

It's possible that ID minigame is going to go away, but there's some efforts here to brainstorm a more relevant system

https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php? ... tification

Looks pretty good. Agree about training defenses only for now, but eventually you'll want more Bows right? That bow is electric death to everything. IMO you don't really need Evo. EDIT: Hmm, I really haven't gotten my head around new_ranged yet. I just realized you've hit min delay at 12 Bow skill, ...

Hmm, I'd say you've trained a tad too much Invo, and should stop training Evo. Your defenses look kind of low. IMO your priority now should be to train Fighting and one of Dodging or Armour. Your +6 scale mail is sort of ok, but don't you have any dragon armour? Assuming you haven't used Qazlal's fi...

No particular favorites, I like most of them! Yes, throw all enchant scrolls at your lajatang. For EA, I used to hoard them too long, but and_into's argument convinced me. His suggestion is to enchant peripheral armour right away (boots, gloves, cloak, hat/helm) since items with ego are quite rare a...

If I were to describe my characters briefly, it would be something like "melee-oriented hybrids". But that's using hybrid in a more general sense (I'd consider Be + evo for example). And yeah playing online is great. It's gotten to the point that I feel offline games "don't count"...

Yeah, shame about the character.

For me, it's that you seem to play the sort of characters I like to play, so I feel comfortable giving advice. For a lot of the other threads I'm not sure I have something useful to add.

Oh wait, *you* are the King of Dragons? I never realized, because your avatar kind of looks like um, well, a pig. No offense meant of course.

Fun is subjective IMO so I find it very weird that people are arguing about what is fun! Looking back on my survey choices, I'm pretty sure I didn't apply any consistent criterion to my choices. I put Xom as 5 even though I only play Xom once in a blue moon, because Xom games tend to be very memorab...

Yes, train Staves for your staff of fire. Train more Fire too to make it even more effective. For fire resistant dudes, you can pick up Iron Shot or OOD or something. You can also consider melee if you find a nice lajatang to switch with your staff. And since you're with Kiku, corpse delivery + anim...

Is being able to summon many different allies very different from summoning just one type of ally? In practice, you'd only use your top summon in tough fights anyway, and for easy fights its whatever (use melee or or use lesser summons, does it matter that much?) With respect to summon support, Trog...

I have found a demon blade and a demon trident, but that would require me to switch my primary weapon, and neither seems like it is quite good enough to make that worthwhile. Hmm, eudemon blade requires only 12 LB to reach min delay, trishula only needs 14 Polearms. Right now you have 16 Axes, but ...

Yeah, I wouldn't buy that ring either. I'd use rPois as swap in Spider/Snake (mainly for eating chunks, ha) if I have it, but won't go out of my way to get it. If you intend to stick with 1H Axes, Arga is nearly as good as it gets. A +6 broad axe of speed is pretty good. Don't use xbow with a shield...

Don't forget antimagic! Probably the best brand for extended. Holy wrath is second best, probably. Speed, elec, and distortion are good too.

Of the brands you can actually get from the scroll though, it probably goes elec > vorpal/flaming/freezing > everything else.

I think it was more like 0.11 that Veh still had summoning support. But even then, Sif was the summoning god of choice, for all the reasons you mentioned. Veh's only advantage probably was the more predictable gifting of books, but when that went there probably wasn't enough reason to keep summoning...

Some early feedback from me... I tried out a plain PlFi and couldn't figure out how to get out of grey contam while playing more or less normally. The character started at yellow contam, but dropped to grey pretty soon after killing a few dudes, and nothing I've done has nudged it up since. (There w...

Congrats! For extended, you just want a strong character (i.e. good offense and defense). Resists are useful, but not essential IMO, as long as you have high HP/AC/EV. A weapon with antimagic or holy wrath would also be useful. Access to Haste (spell or wand) is another useful thing. Your FoFi could...

If random blink is full LOS range, then chances are it's better. Force Lance knocks back either 1 or 2 spaces only. But that just implies that Force Lance should knock monsters back more spaces, not that blinking is inherently better than pushing. Propose it then? :) The code for Force Lance is kin...

I'd think of it this way. Bad mutations aren't going to kill you, while running out of piety for Step from Time might. So I'd prioritize faith over rMut myself. Bad mutations usually aren't game enders. They'll force you to adapt in some way, or play with more restrictions. At this stage you should ...

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