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Also--incidentally to my previous post--there are still some changes to Whirlwind Attack and Wall Jump that may be worth considering. ⋅ In Sil, the Whirlwind equivalent only functions if the player is not adjacent to walls or similar obstructions at the beginning of their movement. It may ...

I'd also vote for maintaining the status quo. In any case, I think it's important to the experience of the god for me that the martial attacks don't reduce single-target damage over time, and hence that I never have a reason to tab-attack instead of them. I worry that if this were changed, smart WJC...

call them "potions of heroism" maybe.

edit: naw, forgot about Oka.

Elitist wrote:Sure, I agree, but what happens to Charms once its removed?

It gets rejoined with Hexes into Enchantments. Spectral Weapon becomes 4th level or shares a school with Summoning.

The weapon bonus is rolled, so a +1 dagger is normal dagger damage plus (d1), a +4 dagger is normal dagger damage + d4 pretty sure it's based on random2 (http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Random2), so the enchantment bonus bottoms out at 0 rather than 1. (So the +1 dagger adds 0-1 damage (d2-1); the +4 a...

Loosely related question: has anyone considered some unrandart throwing weapons? Any clear reasons why this would be a good or bad idea? (I think it'd be a good idea, and specifically like the idea of a javelin that pulled targets to you. But there are tons of other options. For example, perhaps sto...

Remember, also, that any conduct needs to affect transmuted forms! Eliminating heavy armor does not affect dragon form. Preventing the use of the martial attacks in forms is also arbitrary; why prevent transmuters from using a viable god? though it's nitpicky, my version of this proposal was limite...

MainiacJoe wrote:I've seen this sort of hard-number feedback in some people's games when spectating online, and would like to know what sort of rcfile settings they're using to get it. Probably a lot of lua.

Maybe just hellcrawl?

Yeah, I'm confused about this too. From a design perspective, I think the problem is that Heaven on Earth is both (a) super expensive, yet (b) tactically complex.* Either is fine on its own. However, using a tactically complex ability efficiently takes practice: you need to get a feel for how it wor...

I mean, I can stay still, and hit one things at around 0.7 delay while getting hit back by only 1 or move around around multiple ones, attack at 1.0 delay while being hit by multiples. Shit, the "thanks" was accidental. (Sorry, that sounds way snottier than I ever want to be an an online ...

Yeah, it sounds to me like simply reducing the effectiveness of martial attacks proportional to your heavy armour penalty (lasty's suggestion c or d) is the simplest and most direct way to increase the "glass" factor, and it makes for a readily adjustable knob as you can play around with ...

Hellmonk wrote:IJC is not merged yet; you have a week to vote one of the other gods off of the meme island to make room for it.

Okawaru is too boring for Hellcrawl.

You hardly ever get into a "oh crap my spellcasting skills suck, but if i don't cast this spell i will probably die" other than like weird, contrived circumstances. I guess *maybe* if you are trying to like brilliance cast blink to escape or something. Right. But I get ”oh crap if I could...

ok, fair enough. You think Ash should be changed because you don't think equipment swapping should consume a finite resource. All I'm saying is that the question whether this is the case is distinct from the question whether curses should be removed, and should be discussed as such.

Heia wrote:Might is useless for casters. Make it give you archmagi.

At least in early game, !might is not useless for casters at all.

Here are two things that annoy me. (1) Potions of brilliance are useless to non-spellcasters. (2) I have to invest in Evocations to get much use out of wands, even in the early game when I don't know if I'll find enough stuff later to justify the investment (or when I just want to get my weapon skil...

Having played Hellcrawl, I've come around to the (hardly original) view that curses (and identification) serve no purpose other than to make the early game more annoying. But this doesn't require letting Ash worshippers to switch equipment at the cost of time and piety alone, much less make this a g...

So wait, do you have to be free of mutations before you can gain Zin piety in this instance? And does he still provide rMut? As I imagined it, yes to both. But maybe the gift timeout version--where you do still get piety--is better; idk. Probably the only way to know for sure is to test one and see...

I notice one side effect of the new mutation potions is that a Zinnie who get a malmutation isn't now allowed to cure it, so slightly oddly Zinnies are more likely to get stuck with mutations than anyone else even though Zin hates mutations. Perhaps Zin's "cure all mutations" could work m...

Especially after the new mutation potions, Zin incentivizes behavior counter to the spirit of the god. Specifically: --) it's smart to convert to Zin when you have a mutation set you want to preserve. --) if you're paranoid about avoiding mutation, you often have reason not to spend piety with Zin, ...

moderate nerf. Was +4/+8/+12 slaying, now +3/+6/+9 (with a proportionately smaller effect on spellpower).

Seriously, everyone who thinks identification should stay should play hellcrawl. The early game is so much more fluid and fun.

First, looking at UC without transmutations: (a) +0 two-handed weapons out-damage UC at a similar skill level for low-to-medium skill level. Try fsim with +0 dire flail, fighting 10, skill level 14 for m&f and UC. just looking at the formulae, without claws/forms UC only really pulls ahead even...

Player options that directly recovers your HP, while necessary to have some, shouldn't be conveniently available since it contributes a lot to trivializing the game's difficulty. What, you mean like resting? No, seriously, if Regeneration is functionally similar to Heal Wounds you play very differe...

I'm not saying there's not a problem with Regeneration, but frankly it's not obvious to me what it is. It would help me at least to break it down, at the cost of repeating things other people have said. So: essentially, Regeneration does two things for you. ⋅ It gives you extra HP during a...

The most common tormenting monsters can be easily shut down: mummies can be silenced, and tormentors can be one-shot or two-shot with spells or powerful ranged weapons. (Anyone with passable Int and apts should really learn Silence before doing Tomb; it really cuts down on headaches.) That leaves th...

duvessa wrote:better idea than felids

but worse idea than http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=7792

Alternatively, I could unlock the skill at ****** as a form of capstone. Seems like the way to do it, offhand. Btw, just wanted to point out that your last feedback post is increible. I'm going to take lots from it, because you phrased several of my concerns really well. great to hear it! it's real...

removeelyvilon wrote:3. I really don't see why UC is supposed to be THE way to play this god. Seems to me that the optimal weapon choice would be whatever the best weapon is you find because of boosted cross-training.

Well, at really high skill, UC is better than the best weapon you'd find, no matter what it is.

Steel Neuron wrote:Alternatively, I could unlock the skill at ****** as a form of capstone.

Seems like the way to do it, offhand.

long post, but a number of suggestions come to mind at this point! 1. Any chance Serpent's Lash could made be available at low piety? It'd give IJC worshippers a much-needed early game panic button. 2. We chatted about this in-game a bit, but after winning a DsTr^IJC last week, I'd really consider c...

Sar wrote:It should have a mediocre/crappy enchantment but also instakill anything with 50% or less HP instead of speed brand

lichform + finisher + scepter of torment would make you literally the grim reaper.

chequers wrote:I think it should probably go, but I made a quick attempt at an interesting ability.

looks good to me!

duvessa wrote:cut imo

crawl doesnt need multiple unrand scythes

seems right.

There's a pull request out for adding fire immunity to Firestarter and bigger slaying and MR bonuses to the necklace of rage, since both are neat in principle but (supposedly?) not generally worth using. I think this is a great idea (independently of the specific changes under consideration); it mad...

I think the main problem is that people tend to have one of two playing philosophies about good mutations. #1: Thinks of good mutations as temporary perks. Limits exposure to malmutate using tactics (prioritizes targets who have it, limits line of effect with summons/other enemies) but generally doe...

Code:: z - the amulet of the Good {rC+ rN+ Regen+ Slay+5}.

You can say THAT again!

Perhaps even "detection range" or something similarly abstract/game-y?

Code:: D - the +0 scale mail of a volcano {rF++ rC+}

volcanic armor that protects you from the heat AND keeps you warm!

I was just fighting Arachne on Nest:3, who created a web over an ice cave portal. Pretty sure it destroyed the portal!

Why do we need different weapon categories and tranformations if they are roughly equal to all other weapons? I mean it is good that short blades are weak and transformations are strong (I would move statue to level 7-8 if it's too powerful for level 6). I don't think the OP's proposal would make a...

FR: reduce the frequency of bad mutations from non-Malmutate / non-Contamination enough so that gambling on mutation moves from bad idea to viable-albeit-suboptimal. I know Ds does it "right", but still, gambling can be fun at times if you know you aren't going wipe out your bank account ...

VeryAngryFelid wrote:So OP suggests replacing (base weapon damage * {Str-10}/39}]) with ({Str-10}/2}). Basically all weapons will be treated as triple sword in old formula. Why is it better?

Because short blades are too weak, and statue form is too strong. Among other things.

effectively, weapon damage is: 1d(base weapon damage * [1 + {Str-10}/39}] * [1 + {weapon skill}/50] * [1 + {fighting skill}/60]) plus 1d(slaying + enchantment + 1) - 1 (The Str, skill, and fighting multipliers are actually randomized themselves in each case, but these are their expected values. And ...

I imagine that formula would give extremely overpowered results (as far I know, base damage is multiplicative with weapon skill and fighting) Maybe not quite so much as you think! In the current system, you get 1 point of additional base damage per 2.6 points of Str with a 15 base damage weapon. (O...

PleasingFungus wrote:frogs aren't a reskin of elves, you goofs

Fair enough and I take your point but when you think about it like every frog in fairy tales or video games actually is a reskin of a prince or knight or the like.

4th edition Dungeons and Dragons tried to deal with high elves by giving them a limited teleport ability and a silly made-up name, and reflavoring them to be more like fairies. Now Crawl is trying to deal with high elves by giving them a limited teleport ability and a silly made-up name, and reflavo...

Hell and Pan can easily be made way shorter and way sweeter, viz.: ⋅ Hell has nine levels total, counting the vestibule. ⋅ The vestibule is as-is, but only has one staircase which you create the old-school way with the horn of Geryon. ⋅ The remaining eight levels are di...

Not that anyone really cares (though it may be helpful to the OP), but ftr my math was way off in the earlier post. Also ftr, even in very early game a point of Str is usually worth 1/4 to 1/3 a point of slaying, so the added Str from races like Mi really does make a difference (especially since the...

It's a roll involving your weapon skill and the target monster's HD. Ever considered using invocations instead of weapon skill (and maybe raising the odds at high skill levels)? Seems thematic (deeper spiritual insight into the IJC -> mystic martial arts knowledge -> Pai Mei) and it'd give Invo mor...

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