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My view is that it would work well if we continued the theme of the lightning rod and "multi-turn spells with unusual mechanics" were featured on several rods. The shotgun-style iron rod that I haven't merged yet has functionality a little like this (the spread increases on consecutive us...

I think Trog and Oka does gift you ranged weapons even if you have 0 skills. Still, doesn't throwing gift and weapon gift does not affect the chance of getting each other? They won't gift ammo unless you are over 8 in the skill... Also, you will get needles if you have 8+ throwing and a blowgun. Fo...

Some of the new end vaults for Elf actually make it a little better than it previously was. There is the one with the water on either side and the one with water at the entrance. Both make it a little more difficult to just pull them out one at a time, plus I've seen more than a few with double wide...

Zin is stupid easy to gain piety with. You just sacrifice a hefty chunk of gold and go kill a few things and voila max piety... at least thats whats happened for me whenever I'd switch to Zin for mutation cleansing and Hells protection.

Training is completely gone now... with a few exceptions you can basically train anything whenever you want (you need a shield for shields, fire spells for fire, etc.). Your skill is going up because you have experience going into it.

Inspired by this thread: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8476 ...If anyone knows how to use Apportation effectively, I'd be interested in hearing bout it. Hit Ctrl+D . Hit m . select your key - maybe one from F1-F12 . put in what you would type to cast the spell like: zX. (w...

The digging trick negates just about every issue with lots of summons. I'll regularly take my melee in there right after clearing out the lair branches sans ends as long as I've got a way to dig a fighting space and decent MR. SInv, rMut, elemental resists, etc. aren't necessary. A good whacking sti...

Elven Halls isn't bad for a strong melee character at XL20+ if you've found a wand of digging and some MR+ equipment.

I don't think I've ever had a problem getting a demon trident. If there aren't any red devils carrying them in Lair:8 or Vestibule, I usually find one of those red knight guys with one. Worst case you just find one in the first few levels of Pan, but I've never had to wait that long to get one. I'm ...

I've never been able to ascend with a 2H melee, but I've ascended quite a few times with 1H+Shield and cleared a couple Zigs with that combo. Anecdotal yes, but to say that shields are "very bad" in extended is a bit of a stretch. It may not be optimal, but it works well enough... Most of ...

There are a few ways that I like to handle mutators as melee without rMut. If I'm polearms (which I usually am because they are so awesome), I just get them in position and evoke past them. Javs and bolts of penetration work well also... If you're with Oki you can get 8 throwing pretty quick and he'...

You should pretty much always have time to cast the spell against monsters the same (or slower) than you. 1: If the monster is 1 space away from you, make that not be true anymore (using stairs or whatever). 2: If the monster is more than one space from you, cast the spell or rest for more MP. If y...

Just pointing out where a turd is a turd.

tasonir wrote:Ah, I assumed he was answering the question, not commenting on the title...

Just minmay trying to pad his post count... If you removed every post he has ever made that is a sad attempt at snarkasm he'd be left with only a couple hundred real posts.

Just anecdotal, but my shield carrying melee fair far better than my 2-hand melee, including those that make it to extended.

For TSO melee you can either summon up a butt load of angels and they'll mop up most of the mummies for you, or just stair dance as has been mentioned before.

Silence is also great for mummy killin.

Regardless of weapon gifts, I wouldn't be so quick to discount Oki... Heroism and Finesse are both really great for any melee character. Granted if you want a change then obviously give someone else a try, but weapon gifts are only a fraction of Oki's benefits... There's a lot to be said for getting...

TrBe, Hold Tab.

Ugh... after ID'ing a Legendary Deck it had Merc at the top. Reading the wiki page it says they will pick up equipment, so I figure why not... Now I've got an Ork Knight with some shitty splint mail. If I had realized that I can't upgrade this turd I wouldn't have wasted the gold.

Wish I'd known it was passive or I would have snagged it. Pretty awesome change imo.

the +2 cloak of the Thief {+Fog Dam-3 SInv Stlth++} This thing is so awesome. Bought it with a 0/7 ring of slaying and carrying a bardiche, so the -3 dam isn't even a drawback. Are there any other new/revamped items in .12 with cool evocables? I saw an amulet of air or something with evocable rmsl.

I wasn't trying to make anyone smirk I just forgot he was playing as a mummy. -.- I still think you should get the failure rate down because even of you dont suffer miscast effects you can fail and waste MP which means one less dragon and a couple turns channeling that MP back. Dragons last quite a...

If you do Vestibule you might get another DWhip. Even a poison dwhip is solid for a 3runer. I've done well with them in the past regardless of brand before I discovered how much I love polearms.

I dont' see any way out of it short of read-iding some of those scrolls and hoping for a teleport that goes off quick enough... or maybe enslaving the centaur and making an escape... even if you kill it the Hippo and Manti are going to get you. Why do you have so many unidentified consumables at D:1...

Melee vs. Tormentors... Usually by this point I'm worshipping either Makhleb or TSO, so I'll be getting my health back fairly quickly. With that said... Most of the places you'll be fighting tormentors (Pan, Tomb, Hells) generally have good places to hide... obviously with the exception of the open ...

If they walk through fire, just stand right next to the flame and they will stand in the flame, or better summon an imp and let the imp stand right next to the flame. Enemies that walk through fire is a good thing for you. Only if you can take the hits. You can get an Orc Knight standing in a flame...

MuSu is stupid easy. Haunt+Summon Dragons+Sif makes the game a... well not a breeze... its easy as sin... but its boring as hell. You literally just have to run around with 12+ of your strongest summons active at all times... drop a few Haunts on anything that comes into view and step back... The ch...

In .12 "Ammo bonus" is now your relevant launcher skill/3 (So +9 at 27 skill) I'm pretty sure this is actually min(3, skill/3) ... you don't get up to effectively +9 ammo at any skill, unless my understanding is wrong. So 9 skill would give the same ammo bonus as 27? Does that apply to mu...

@khalil

One or two imps isn't great, but spammed Imps makes you practically invulnerable early game. Non-reds make for good escape options too.

Thanks for the info guys. @some1 -- I've been skilling up Nec until I find a good weapon... Usually getting Vamp Drain to 10% -- Usually this is about the time I find a weapon in the school I want anyways -- then skilling melee to MinDelay . I branch out from there depending on what I've found spell...

Having ascended with a few MiFi, I've been trying to find a melee hybrid that is a bit better at casting. I really like the idea of the HONe, but they seem to be really underpowered midgame. Even with an Exe Axe I was getting torn up due to low AC, poor EV, and no SH. The spells I was able to find d...

There's a tutorial. Did you play the tutorial. Also, tiles mode. This should earn me my dark blue right quick now. I am not sure why you believe tiles mode is easier than console one. Is base damage of weapons increased in tiles mode? :) A bit more user friendly for folks that aren't used to ascii....

Troll Berserker is very noobie friendly. Just berserk on everything until you get the hang of it. Also, read the forums... especially CiP. There is a ton of good info here.

Convert % to decimal for turn count. So yes, 100%=1 turn

If you do decide to switch to Zin to clear mutations you may as well take advantage of his benefits and get your Hell runes while worshiping him.

galehar wrote:
bobross419 wrote:Galehar, how were the gates back tweaked?

Less unguarded direct exits and more via the Abyss

Ugh... Abyss

Thanks for the link though.

It doesn't show up in the ctrl+g menu, but if you ctrl+f for "pan" it will show the locations. Also should show up on the dungeon overview screen ctrl+o

Galehar, how were the gates back tweaked?

What about the AE route? You'll get Swiftness and Repel Missiles for dealing with fast moving ranged enemies, and you can eventually build up to Tornado which plays much differently from Fire Storm.

My above comments don't really fit with the Game Design split here. I was talking more about from a game play perspective.

As far as game design is concerned I'm happy with GDR the way it is.

dd, idea vetting in the Tavern is pretty rough, especially from the boys in blue, for a reason. Crawl has been very carefully designed to deliver a specific type of gaming experience. Any additions to the game must enhance or at least not alter this experience, and must not distort or detract from ...

5 or 6 throwing is usually what I go with. Enough to hit fairly regularly but not enough for oka to barf out darts. About the hexes, ya it does take up quite a bit of skill... I sometimes forget that not everyone is interested in farming Pan lol. Even at 3 int you can still get level 6 spells castab...

sardonica wrote:I miss Mountain Dwarves a lot too, so most of my MiHu are named "Gimli".

Seriously tho why would anyone lose retaliation attacks to choose this MD?

Awesome beards.

Make them a small race too for EV bonus as well.

Yes, it is not the most interesting mechanic. And is very capable of confusing players, as we see all the time. Coming up with the thing is very natural -- I wouldn't be surprised if Linley got it from some pen and paper RPG: you want to make sure that heavy armour always does *something* against i...

Note that GDR only applies to physical melee attacks; it does exactly nothing against large rock/bolt/arrow/magic/breath hail that makes up so much of the damage dealt to you over the course of a game. Which means that GDR only ever matters when you're continuously tanking hard hitting dudes, i.e. ...

Save your Blink scrolls for things like Nessos. Regular blinking is a pain, but you can sometimes maneuver so that you have a greater chance of not ending up right next to the monster you are running from. If nothing else, pop a tele then start blinking - You might get out of LOS or make him waste s...

Congrats on the win. Big fan of MiFi myself. Some tips if you decide to play them again... I'd suggest laying off the Evo (unless you find a nice early rod, then a few points can go a long way) and ranged. I'll generally put a few levels into Throwing and just rely on Javs for my ranged damage. You ...

Note that GDR only applies to physical melee attacks; it does exactly nothing against large rock/bolt/arrow/magic/breath hail that makes up so much of the damage dealt to you over the course of a game. Which means that GDR only ever matters when you're continuously tanking hard hitting dudes, i.e. ...

I've had better success having a backup melee on my FE... Polearms are especially nice because they synergize so well with Conjure Flame even at the level you're at there are still plenty of monsters that won't want to mess with the flame cloud (and flame cloud+sticky flame damage is great). I would...

Code:: B - the +18 crystal plate armour of Midnight (worn) {god gift, rElec rF+ rN+ MR Acc+3 Dam+4 Stlth++} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 22 of the Dungeon)

Hot damn... You can say it this time Grimm

This reminds me of a Mitch Hedburg joke

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