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Usually by orb run I have cblink, haste, swift, digging, etc so I dont really fight at all.

How do i play this on webtiles

Worse. It's one of the more tedious things in the game, especially when trying to do things like kite with a spear centaur.

DCSS needs more sick boss fights like the one at the end of nethack.

Honestly I'm pretty sure lureing isn't a problem. In response to the OP this seems more like a "destroy sprigans, destroy pillars" thing than a lureing fix. Which just encorages more luring, and more stairhugging. Seems painful. Yeah, a luring fix alone wont fix much unless stairs , fast ...

It is often, though certainly not always, optimal to lure a fast monster all the way halfway across the level to a stair in order to ensure fighting in isolation, minimize risk from noise, ensure an escape route, etc... this holds true even if the monster can get a few hits in. Just a random example...

Good points. However, no simple proposal would address all those issues, so I choose to work on only those which make my proposal conceivably inferior to any of the ones that have proposed previously. Of the five of those points, the only two that aren't equally posed by other luring fixes is 3. and...

Jihad against the devs if this doesn't get fixed

I don't pretend this to be a perfect or even desirable solution to the problem of luring (if it is one). Merely the simplest and more elegant solution proposed thusfar. Here it is: monsters move faster the longer they have been aware of the player and in LoS. The idea would be that a quick tactical ...

Freezing cloud is one of the best spells in the game imo. Investment is not great for an ice mage since you're already training conj/ice. Branching into air? No sweat, just makes my swiftness and r/dMsl that much better. Once you get it online it can solo basically the whole game from that point for...

STRONG release. Agree with most if not all. The extent to which this variant is better than vanilla increases yet again.

Curse toes ne1?? Lolol

Curse skulls rofl

Just like in every rpg, the devs responsibility includes making things more difficult to appease their grizzled cantankerous veterans and then giving players new badass abilities to appease the casuals, over and over in an endless cycle, except dcss devs dont actually make money off the cycle

Theyre speed 10 dude, just avoid them until you have a lot of large rocks, my last troll had like 1-2 hydras wandering each floor in lair. If you are right next to a hydra, carefully use energy randomization to escape or just tele out.

I liked the awesome power that came from having inacc, iron rod, and enough free time to sink into this game to know exactly when to use both

Was it spoilery and unfair to newer players? Yes. Didnt stop me from enjoying the brokenness

If your proposal was already in the game and someone made a thread called "make fighting give only hp and spellcasting give only mp" i think it would get 20+ thanks

I thought this over again and I think the best solution is just make this guy some kind of demented jester who inflicts some combination of -potion, -scroll and -evoke when he hits you. Same niche (more challenging vs item reliant chars) but doesnt encourage gamey item juggling. Oh, and wand of rand...

+13 staff 3% chance of giving player silence effect on hit Can be invoked to bestow silence Silences anyone who criticizes my tavern threads Why: - Expose more people to the need to reform the patched together overly complex burning trash fire that is silence - Force players to become guinea pigs an...

Agreed. Silence is way too spoilery. The way it works now is essentially special casing every single monster in the game. Cognitive overload bro.

Agree with kuniqs. Infinite xp and consumables spoils what the entirety of the game prior to extended was about - making the best of limited resources. It bothers me that some chars can abyss scum and safely acquire 30 blink scrolls if they are patient enough.

Promising account ^

Sigh theres just no pleasing some.

It's very rare for swarms of easily dispatched, lesser posters to cause an interesting scenario to happen even if there is an archaeo a few tiles out of LoS. Trust me, I would know.

Yeah, it sucks but we rly have no choice but remove. If his steal ability can't net him items he can use against you then it is pointless. If it remains as is it encourages tedium.

May as well squeeze one last remove into 2016.

Yup. Hellcrawl proved that. But this my middle ground solution for people who are still laboring under the delusion that hunger/food are currently significant.

Replace all sources of hunger with drain or contam

Remove food

Problem solved

imo:

Remove staff of energy
Make disc of storms xp gated
Make rods only charge while wielded and lose charge on unequip
Get rid of either box of beasts or sack of spiders

Should deal with some of the evocable related power creep

Devs had time to remove high elves but not fix PM, food, luring... and you wonder why people were angry enough to vote Trump.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

dynast wrote:
Shard1697 wrote:in what world are airstrike, silence, lightning bolt and dmsl god tier

Idk, i think its ash or qazlal tier...

Its not surprising that the magic school that allows you to hurl lightning bolts is god tier. Ever heard of zeus? Odin? I rest my case.

PleasingFungus wrote:i can't tell what irony level this thread is on

God tier.

See, this is great, this is what tavern should be about. I get us 99% of the way there with my OP and god tier knowledge that is just barely missing some areas due to 1.9 and you guys fill in the (almost nonexistent) gaps. The point is, I'm right, and poison magic sucks and should either be buffed o...

devs will defend this =\

I did all the spells not just the lvl 1 spells though =)

Siegurt wrote:AE is better than VM

Thanks

Meanwhile tornado is irresistible, freezing cloud/lightning bolt can kill non T1 demons in a single cast, AE's lvl 4-5 spells aren't nullified by a single level of resistance like OTR/Alistair, and oh, as an AE you actually *have* late game spells.

Thanks for inadvertently agreeing with me.

AE: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/images/f/f9/Shock.png Shock: God tier, bounce hits 4 times killing everything, range is entire los, everything you could want in a lvl 1 spell and more http://crawl.chaosforge.org/images/b/bd/Repel_missiles.png RMsl: God tier, always active, easy to use, nullifies cen...

Way to make this race idea cooler / more triggering to GDD elitists:

Weak race that can worship two gods

Sar wrote:It seems like even in games balanced for competition there are usually characters and strategies that are considered obviously better. Balancing is hard.

Yet men still dream, and build their castles in the sand.

+3 Apt to meme magic

Just make it so you can switch from bloodless to living and vice versa from the abilities panel and making bloodless->living cause drain. Boom, tedium gone.

Most of Tavern would still say the game is too ez

Why not just make a difficulty setting instead of tying difficulty into race? race should be about flavor and playstyle, or you would think so based on the stated rationale every time a race is removed.

I find this idea of "lets just make everything early game as stupid as possible since most people just try to tab spam through it" pretty bad. If thats your logic why not just remove d1-5 and start every pc at lvl 8? If parts of the game are dumb and unnecessary and people just skip throug...

Can one of you oldbies explain whether this is unprecedented levels of DCSS tavern circlejerking and in jokes or was I just fortunate enough to have missed the last peak in the cycle

at least he did something other than steal a name from some unique

both are made of wood

That post looks like what normal posts look like to me after I drop some acid.

Cmon crawl devs, sound support. I got like 50 bucks on it who will match me

>To encourage players who prefer play offline.

Why on earth would we want to do that

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