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MDvedh wrote:Done.

Found VS surprisingly strong and durable for a race with -30% HP, or maybe its just me super lucky with equipment...

Was watching your game a bit; aye good piece of equipment can carry you thru game.

Would like to participate; player/host: SaintRoka/CLAN

Looks like an Abyssal Knight now.

Why you went Elven Halls that early (with just MR+)?

Second death: killed one Orb Guardian before those two, was not so wounded but then moth of wrath and two Orb Guardians showd up, moth casted berserk on one of the Guardians, so I killed moth, then tried to retreat but berserked Guardian killed me. Edit: Eh should use Fan of gales to make gap for re...

and... Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1-3-gd16b60d (webtiles) character file. 663909 SaintRoka the Warrior (level 27, -29/241 HPs) Began as a Naga Fighter on May 16, 2014. Was a High Priest of Okawaru. Annihilated by an Orb Guardian (37 damage) ... on Level 5 of the Realm of Zot on May 17, 20...

Omg, two YASD in Zot 5 :( Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1-2-gf595e19 (webtiles) character file. 577330 SaintRoka the Crack Shot (level 25, 0/233 (238) HPs) Began as a Centaur Hunter on May 13, 2014. Was a High Priest of Okawaru. Killed from afar by an ancient lich (68 damage) ... with a crys...

4Hooves2Appendages wrote:Are there any wands that have decent offensive powers at high evocation? Having a magic ranged option seems quite appearling.

I guess wands of cold/fire/lightning, and other evo items like fan of gales, phial of floods, lamp of fire.

train magic? Play as you played with Trog but now with Zin abilities. :) (This is why dragon armor is usually not so great in practice. Yes +6, +7, +8 FDA can be great defensively, but outside of very rare drops, this usually means you need 7, 8, or 9 ?enchant armor, and even then you are only brea...

Found +4,+4 demon whip of flaming, should I use it instead of +4,+0 dire flail of flaming? Demon whip is faster I know, but dire flail have better base dmg. Plan was to use some heavy 2H mace/flail, alas no good finds for now. Also found +0,+2 vampiric demon blade, but have already trained M&F t...

Aye, for now game gave me just two ?enchant armor scrolls :/ one used on fire dragon hide, but Im wearing +6 scale mail anyway. Got Spider rune, cleared Vaults 1-4, scared to go V5. ^_^ Last time I was there was 0.13 version with tanky char; have to read some threads I found here about V5 strategy. ...

Quick advice to give: use teleport traps to escape hairy situations if you dont have tele scrolls or tele wand.
Also when exploring new dungeon level, when you find stairs down, check them fast to see if area down there is clear so you can retreat there if needed.

After many unsuccessful roleplaying backgrounds/species combinations, decided to play straightforward CeHu^Okawaru. Game was going fine, cleared Shoals, got rune, then went Spider, but there was Mara in the Spider vault, so didnt take rune yet; went to clear Vaults 1-4 to get exp in Charms and Trans...

and into wrote:So let it be written, so let it be done.

Creeping Death \m/

Nice game, congrats!

Current open questions are 'magic skilling'? and 'next destination'? Find Book of Conjurations and make him Conjurer, heh just kidding. :) Guess I would go Statue Form(Book of Earth)+Stoneskin (tho those require (high?) investment in Earth Magic). And from Book of Summonings I would pick Shadow Cre...

+1,+0 long sword or electrocution or +3,+1 demon tident of flaming or +3,+10 morningstar{flame, rF++}
Need to decide which weapon to use and skill to train; should I go for long blades ?

Another handy thing to do is to set your two main wielded items to 'a' and 'b'. Press = in game to change what letter items, spells, and abilities are on. If you press the ' key, it will wield item a, or if you're already wielding a, it will wield b. Very handy for switching between your whip and s...

Oh well I smash some popcorn in the face with staff (when forget to switch to that flaming whip), dont actually use it to melee some serious things. Game dropped few randart weapons, but those are not so good; maybe I'll stick with that whip and train M&F? Aye, was just about to read those scrol...

OK, again Im driving DECj (didnt want to start new topic for this one); and again Im kinda in same dilemma: how to proceed with skills training. Plan was to train Translocation and Summoning for Phase Shift and Shadow Creatures; is it ok ? Also want to train weapon skill, but cant decide which one, ...

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Yes you can clear Zot 1-4 with this char, you can get Abyssal rune too I guess.

Try Death Knight (DK) background; you train your skills like fighter, but you have summons to help you to get through.

Shift+x, then e (at wanted location) will set exclusion;
shift+x then ctrl+e will remove exclusion.

Item proposal: dive suit.

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Eh, nice char it was. :/
Btw I think you wont find any better items in the Abyss (at the start) then you'll find on the D:1 floor.
Started to avoid Elven Halls for the same reason

Noticed (while looking morgues of others players) that people avoid Elves too.

Fire Magic is your primary spell school so stick with it. If you find Bolt of Fire learn it. You can get Iskenderun's Mystic Blast and/or Iron Shot for fire resistant monsters, later on you can add Orb of Destruction. Translocation is always good to have for Ctele and Cblink, just dont overtrain it....

Damn it, this was realy nice char, but he was hungry all the time... was starving and without any food. :/ When my food supplies run short, I tried not to use pacify, but still this Elf was hungry...Eventually run out of food, got starving status and then started to make mistakes. Dungeon Crawl Ston...

Quick update, cleared Lair, have problems to rise piety to ***** (can get ****, but cant get to *****). Also made mistake with Stealth training. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.1 (console) character file. Silmarilion the Archer (High Elf Arcane Marksman) Turns: 27829, Time: 03:17:32 HP 76/76 A...

Ok, after I've splattered my Merfolk pirate(died in a stupid way, because I was drunk...his ghost now is haunting me on D:7); now Im sober and started to play HEAM realy careful, picked up Elyvilon in the Temple; got nice +11,+10 longbow from scroll of acquirement, also was wearing +2 leather armour...

Congrats! Nice character, nice spells diversity. Didnt play Draconians before that much, but they look cool. 8-) Also, why is this on 13.2? Have you had this character running all month? 1348409 Gideon the Devastator (level 27, 196/196 HPs) Began as a Mottled Draconian Venom Mage on Apr 23, 2014. Wa...

Started Merfolk Ice Elementalist; plan was to train polearms, but found this sabre(cutlass): +9,+4 sabre "Poeruts" {venom, rPois, rF+, rC++, MR++}. Should I consider it as keeper and train Short Blades skill ? Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.1 (console) character file. KateSkate the ...

Congrats! Glad you did it.

Good job!
I killed 3 Pan lords too while running for the exit, in my first win, and I didnt even know those were Pan lords ^_^ got it later when I checked messages log.

Nice, thank you for this mini guide

:thumbsup:

Galefury wrote:Don't use a shield with a bow. I'm not sure what the penalties are, but they are huge, something like halved firing speed.

What about sling+shield? Are those penatlies same as for bow+shield?

I was going to kill a monster who is approaching me, apport its body, animate the body, wield chunks and cast Sublimation. Perhaps it is still too slow though and actually I have never tried it (I usually use Sublimation on own body but it does not work for Mu). Guessed its something like that; sor...

It may be waste of turn, depend on situation.
Sometimes when Im retreating, my summons follow me, so I use t-a to make them attack/distract things which are chasing me.

Sandman25 wrote:and no Apportation to regenerate mana in fights

How do you regenerate mana with Apportation?

Loynis wrote:A short question about summons - do I need to tell them to attack monsters specifically or they autoattack?

Press t, it will open "orders for allies" menu.

but how can piety ** with Healer can be stronger then piety ** with Monk ? how many ely altars have you seen on turn 0 0 :D :D I just gave an example Im currently playing (HOMo, XL 12, at Lair 3, piety ****), also played HOHe, didnt have problems to get *** with both chars, but early game with Monk...

Sar wrote:Healers start the game with Ely and ** piety, which seems stronger much than UC Monks get.

Aye, I know that Healers start with Ely and piety **;
but how can piety ** with Healer can be stronger then piety ** with Monk ? Anyway either way you'll get *** soon.

Start as an Hill Orc Monk for easier pre-temple, pre-lair game, when you get Elyvilon your piety will be **(because of Monk background), then sacrifice all weapons/ammo you found along the way, and soon you'll have piety ***

Orbs aren't the only things that need to be drawn around corners -- using terrain against monsters is crawl 101. But even presupposing that a player doesn't know that, they could learn that it's seen as an obvious choice by reading duvessa's post -- or one of the various other posts in this thread ...

Thank you! Bookmarked that link.

Edit: deleted If so, my only explanation is that his "freezing" weapon was an artifact weapon with -3 INT. You are right, I was switching randart weapon with Int +5 with morningstar of freezing -_- that made confusion, so failure with Int+5 weapon is 6% and with morningstar of freezing fai...

If you train Fire Magic (Fire Elementalist) and wear freezing weapon you will have slightly casting penalty for fire spells, cool

(Fireball 6% ---> Fireball 10% with freezing mace on)

Im playing offline mostly, would like to have both 0.13 and 0.14 versions installed on same computer. Is it possible?

Also where I can get(download) previous versions of DCSS?

I would train and wear buckler because Condensation Shield eventually will melt if you are hit with fire.

First win. ^_^ It was cool and relaxed game, I enjoyed it. :) Felt like this char could get Slime and Tomb runes but didnt want to risk. Btw, is there any other place where I can make an stash for end-game(the Vestibule of Hell maybe)? Sometimes it was boring to go all way back to the Lair 2. Edit: ...

Evocations skill will probably be better than what you are training now, IMO. Unless you started training summoning skill to power up butterflies and then picked up shadow creatures as well. That would be a good move too. Spellcasting training was on because I wanted to learn Dispel Undead(for thos...

Congrast, good job!
Like your story about this char.

Reached Zot for the second time. :-O But I should stop doing silly mistakes like going to Elven Halls without putting my cloak of preservation on (yup, scroll of acquirement gave me one), those damn elves burnt some nice scrolls :/ Anyway still Im not sure should I wear +3 salamander hide or +2 FDA(...

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