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they should be removed because they either introduce the tedium of going and hunting down a +blinck item. or they a stupid and spolery and make you carry around a +blink item for the last level of zot. Fo don't care about the tele traps so this doesn't apply to them.

Or make it give a -darkness status after it wears off so that you literally can't keep recasting it.

Just Make it semi perminent so you don't have to keep recasting it.

If you are planning on going 2H, you should stop training shields.

Bit of advice:dith is great with throwing.

Pray for an ossuary. I have found early TSO to be ok because summon divine warrior is really strong, you just have to use it very sparingly because piety is scares. The Halo should help though.

P.S. Axes and shields is normaly a bad isea. I would ditch the shield and just go for a battleaxe.

dracos369 wrote:Aren't ****** abilities supposed to be be one-time? Move that one to *****
Love the theme(Crawl needs more silly gods!), but the idea could use some work.

I don't think they are all one time. Honestly this god looks like it would apeal to the MiFi in CPA more than dith.

MiFi of Qazlal in CPA should probably not be using charms either. I feel think the root of the disscusion is that hexes like confuse drop greatly in power in a 3 rune game but there are dual school hexes that don't check MR/HD that are quite strong (spectral weapon, mana viper, silence) Personaly I ...

Multiple allies can be: Summoner, Yred, Beogh, Kiku/necromancer, early game IE ( ice beasts), Lamp, Phial, Sac of Spiders, Box of beasts, Nemlex, Trog/TSO/Mak (probably overkill here), Fedas, and enslavement wand. Somehow I feel like I an still forgetting something.

VeryAngryFelid wrote:
nago wrote:Venom bolt is bad

VM of Kiku
Shooting through allies is fun and very efficient. Later I switched to Bolt of Draining (which is higher level and uses a school different from what I started with).

bolt of draining and bolt of venom are both level 5 unless they have been changed very recently.

I would say that is worth the 3 scrolls.

I am posting ideas for incremental change because the devs seem unwilling to remove food. I would rather have a 1/2 full glass than an empty glass.

YASD Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1907-gcff654f (tiles) character file. 149097 Roacoim the Warrior (level 16, -23/244 HPs) Began as a Minotaur Berserker on Nov 1, 2016. Was the Champion of Trog. Killed from afar by a shock serpent (33 damage) ... with a bolt of electricity ... on level 3...

Spell hunger is rarely relevant and is something that is actually confusing for new players. Furthermore, it generally discourages play styles that can be interesting but generaly considered slightly sub optimal, such as trying to cast level 9 spells early in a 3 rune game or playing a Gozag charact...

It is optimal to train a bit of spellcasting for spell power/success as 1 level in spellcasting is equivalent to 1/4 of a level in all the spell schools. Also, Spellcasting give more MP. These factors are a lot more relevent than hunger on non-gozag characters.

Code:: the +11 great sword "Lorem Ipsum" {vamp, +Fly rF+ MR+}

good thing I'm already skilled into long blades.

IDK about heavy armour melee, but He should be pretty great for heavy armour ranged.

The only real solution is to speedrun on a differnet account so that your speed running and casual win rates don't get mixed.

Ahah! I though of that. You can't throw a wand out of LOS, and still have it end up past the zot trap, unless you're willing to clear both zot lungs, in which case you apparently didn't need the wands past the trap in the first place. It's fine if you drop them on the 'safe' side of the zot traps a...

Rast wrote:
wincelet wrote:Yeah the main draw is the additional rC+, rF+, and AC+3

And the fast attack speed with +18 slaying.

it is more like +9 slaying because you have +9 enchantment on a normal weapon.

Well then I think LB are very good on Sp if you want to melee.

Scourge should do what more damage especially with the difference in your skills. With that much difference in your skill the Scourge should still do more damage VS non demon non undead non dragons (or against undead dragons.)

I am a bit weary of those fSim numbers because 17.5 and 19.9 are within the possible error of a single character/gear setup. If you look at the defending numbers you see the stone giant has 30% accuracy dealing an average damage of 5.5 VS 28 EV and only 27% accaracy with an average damage of 4.8 aga...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1907-gcff654f (tiles) character file. Roacoim the Warrior (Minotaur Berserker) Turns: 17861, Time: 00:45:52 Health: 150/150 AC: 33 Str: 21 XL: 15 Next: 37% Magic: 14/14 EV: 15 Int: 3 God: Trog [******] Gold: 1316 SH: 0 Dex: 16 Spells: 0 memorised, 14 levels ...

Code:: the ring of Xom's Wantonness (right hand) {rC+ MR++ EV+5 Int-5 Slay+2} (You bought it in a shop on level 7 of the Dungeon)

A pretty nice find for a MiBe with 4 int

I am currently wearing it with a +5 int ring I found a couple of floors later.

Also demon whips are 1h for them while demon blades are 2h, so you need to give up your shield. Not saying that it is bad, just something to consider.

You can generaly get over the blocking zot traps with uncontoled blinks with enough tries.

Reptisaurus wrote:
WingedEspeon wrote:Dith is really good if missil weapons are your primary damage.

I've never actually tried it. I figure that bleed smoke would block YOUR attacks a fair amount of the time.

you can just reatreat until the smoke clears. Meanwhile doing 1.5 times damage at max piety is good.

I would use it. The sword is really good and you can take it off with a potion of cancellation if you really need to.

Dith is really good if missil weapons are your primary damage.

I think chei is best for stuff like Fi or Gl because you can survive the low piety chei worship and then converge with something like Tm or Sk.

TSO is actualy good in a 3 rune game once you get enough piety for angelic warriors. The halo is also slightly useful with terrible early game accuracy. He seems kinda like ash to me in that he takes a long time to get your piety up but is rather strong once you hit ******

IDK how good shadows is after evocations stepdowns, but back it 0.17 I was summoning caustic shrike packs occasionally at around 22 evo.

A truly optimal player could do something like spam summon butterflies and only step on tiles steped on by the butterflies (nobody does this).

I've got a Google Sheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1px0MtoX8pzT8-OczhLi4iG16520xTgvg_Y79WrD0Fl0/edit?usp=sharing that helps me compare up to 4 weapons with/without shield, enchantments etc. It may be wildly wrong, but it seems to work out okay in comparison. It's based on numbers picked...

I would likely use HW before tele.

Dual wielding a demon blade of pain and a Eudemon blade Excuse my ignorance, but do you mean you can wield both weapons at once, one in each hand (like dual katanas, in other roguelikes)? If so I'm wondering how that is achieved. You can't. The devs have said they are never implimenting dual wieldi...

FYI +0 gold dragon scales are generaly not good for your defences. There was probably a +(>0) rF plate somewhere you could use instead for zot.

Grads on the win, the first win is always the hardest.

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1907-gcff654f (tiles) character file. 2167853 Ipom the Intangible (level 27, 212/212 HPs) Began as a Halfling Fighter on Oct 27, 2016. Was the Champion of Kikubaaqudgha. Escaped with the Orb ... and 4 runes on Oct 28, 2016! The game lasted 05:30:48 (87438 tu...

Alternatively rename shield to medium shield and rename buckler to small shield.

-8 buckler "Wucoge Vetok" {Slay+4}
The devs have finally implemented dual wielding!

TR^Gozag is different of course, it's understood that you will have to buy food shops. Op^Gozag I have not tried yet, but my understanding is that you don't get offered jewellery shops more often, so that could be frustrating. Besides which, Op is very squishy. Try one of the other 25 races, prefer...

I would say that long blades over M&F is a no brainer on Ha. -2 verses +0 is a big difference and riposte is good with Ha EV.

As a tiles user I have been annoyed with the monster panel in the past, but it was because it was bugged really badly in the abyss, not because of what the panel is supposed to do.

Airwolf wrote:
Elitist wrote:I'd love to be able to do this, mostly because I think sac hand is cool.

You're not *required* to wear a 2nd ring and use a shield or 2-handed weapon.

but then you get offhand punches.

Normaly yes, but in this case the +10 plate makes my character so strong it doesn't matter (vamp lajatang helps with this too) I just cleared the snake 4 vault by taking on the entire vault all at once in the open by spamming the tab key and didn't drop below 1/2 health (ok, I kinda cheated by using...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1907-gcff654f (tiles) character file. Fuigepp the Warrior (Gargoyle Gladiator) Turns: 26764, Time: 01:24:38 Health: 103/104 AC: 46 Str: 27 XL: 15 Next: 85% Magic: 19/19 EV: 17 Int: 3 God: Gozag Gold: 4361 SH: 0 Dex: 21 Spells: 3 memorised, 6 levels left rFir...

The price was a +4 demon trident I already had a +3 demon trident in lair and 6 enchant weapon scrolls saved up (I'm using lajatang of order, so I have a reason to save the scrolls for now). d - the +2 shield of Resistance {rF+ rC+ MR+} (You found it in a treasure trove) It protects you from fire. I...

+0 helmet of Trial and Error {-Cast Int+7} I really shouldn't complain though as my character is actually finding a +0 helmet useful and has no spells (D:2) the +8 longbow of Temperance {speed, rElec rN+} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 4 of the Spider Nest) Most Oka gifts are junk. This one is n...

High elves are already well differentiated IMMO by being the only normal sized race with -1 HP apt (Op does not count as normal sized) and by having extremely high stat gain. I would be sad to see them go. Not ever species needs a crazy gimmick to be around, sometimes filling a unique "difficul...

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