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Necromutation is the weakest. The rest are all good.

Quaff brilliance before using Revivification.

I am not familiar with bcrawl, but you can try needle-stabbing Pan Lords. Also, Finesse and Large Rocks and Claws can take down Pan Lords. If you only need one more rune, you can just avoid the Pan Lords which you don't like (I usually find Lom Lobon the hardest). I haven't really played with Tomb m...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.24-a0-512-g2b48af375b (webtiles) character file. bel the Unseen (Vampire Enchanter) Turns: 12716, Time: 04:43:57 Health: 92/92 AC: 7 Str: 12 (13) XL: 15 Next: 76% Magic: 25/25 EV: 23 Int: 26 God: Ru [******] Gold: 1448 SH: 4 Dex: 14 (15) Spells: 12/28 levels left ...

Doesn't Spelunky have damsels which you can rescue, which increases your health? So, perhaps this kind of health regen mechanic can work in randomly generated games. (I haven't played Spelunky much).

It's not clear to me what you're trying to achieve. What problem is being solved by using contamination? I can point out that an old fork "Crawl Light" did remove hunger, and replaced all food costs with "glow" costs. However, I think the better way to go would be to remove spell...

[Mod edit: deleted spam OP] I have a SpEn who can cast this hungerless and is about to enter Orc. This is my first character to find its book, and I've not used it much this game since I was most recently in Lair. I'd like to ask for some tactical advice. The problem I had with it as I descended to...

Trog's piety decay is also faster. I do not find Trog to be particularly good in Hellcrawl, though it's still ok. Trog does begin falling off as the game goes on, which is not a bad thing in and of itself. In general, I think Hellcrawl can do away altogether with piety decay. There's an actual clock...

Coming back to the "mana regen only with monsters in LoS", the way to go would be to tie it to monster difficulty (or tension). It seems that it would be similar to just having mana on kills, which is not a bad idea in itself. I was thinking of tweaking DD where they don't regen at all (HP...

To be fair, the nethack plot doesn't look much different from the DCSS plots here.

Nethack 3.6.2 difficulty plot. The turns are on a log scale

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Not sure about the layout without actually seeing the map, but usually you can get pretty close to the oklob because there are some plants around. And then you can just run into the temple.

If not, invisibility is a good idea. Maybe also use agility.

How difficult would it be, coding wise, to reduce the size of generated levels? I think Circus Animals (?) had bigger than normal levels? I want to go the opposite route. Also, I think that there are some full-level vaults (like the one in Crypt which is in the shape of skull and bones) which might ...

Not sure what's special about MP here. Kiting to restore HP works the same way.

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Updated Hellcrawl graph. Since Hellcrawl is more-or-less linear till Vaults:3, I plotted the difficulty assuming the canonical order (D -> Orc -> Sbranch -> Vaults). Mean difficulty is 8.23 and is shown by horizontal line on the plot. Standard deviation is 4.7. I also merged logfiles from CKO. CBRO ...

Also, keep in mind that permabuffs always reserve MP, while you may not actually cast a particular buff in a fight. So the power adjustment doesn't just go one way. [...] ETA: It's also less true in general, because if I think I'm unlikely to want it in many fights I can keep it off, and cast it as...

Hellcrawl difficulty level in Dungeon. Details are under spoiler tag. Only looks at games on CPO. Thanks to chequers for logfile help. Sequell doesn't track Hellcrawl games, so I looked at the raw logfile here . I looked at the most recent Hellcrawl version (v=5.7). I only looked at &quo...

Nagas do really suck in early game. Apart from the things mentioned in the OP, they're slow. I did an analysis of Naga games from 0.22 using the difficulty measure outlined here . Here's the plot. I would say that both the early game and the later game difficulty are non-ideal. From reading old craw...

First, you have to understand what grasping roots does: Grasping Roots now applies a non-resistable constriction effect to the player (or target monster) when cast, with similar for escape for the normal constriction used by e.g. naga monsters. The constriction damage for Grasping Roots is higher th...

That's pretty cool. What happens when you do go through Lair? I'm curious whether you end up with a huge ambrosia stockpile. In general, the game becomes easier as one goes through Lair. I cannot fix the game difficulty curve by a healing function. Also, keep in mind that I am a fairly experienced ...

Nvm, the healing function goes to crap as soon as I enter the Lair branches. Back to the drawing board.

I'm trying to achieve the result that, at any point in the game, the "total damage taken" should be roughly equal to (ideally, a little less than) "total healing". I have been trying various healing functions and might have found a half-decent one: (Monster XP)^2 / (Player XP) . ...

You're assuming that buffs are cast at the start of the fight. But that's not the only option (or even the most common option). Buffs could be cast before the fight starts, in anticipation of a fight (say, just before you open a door, or before you go downstairs.) Also, keep in mind that permabuffs ...

OK, I will do it step by step. Keep in mind that your formula makes permabuff spells uncastable at low levels for most combos. At the same time as solving this problem, I still didn't want to allow the use of perma-buff spells with a failure probability of more than 30%. So I modified the formula o...

rcfile options are meant to substitute user inputs and/or enhance user experience. They aren't meant to change the game mechanics. People with different rcfiles are still playing the same game.

Okawaru wrath is the top killer in Crypt.

"Crawl Light" was a fork of DCSS (it was forked off 0.8). I was reading the changelog. What jumped out at me:

No food.
No ID.
SquareLoS.
Everyone starts with a scroll of teleport and potion of agility.

Is there an echo in here?

[I have never played Crawl Light]

I found this cool series of posts which was done by some guy named Colin Morris a couple of years ago.

I half-remembered this from a post on Tavern back then. I had some worries about the approach.

One alternative to removing the id game would be to remove the ID *scrolls* and have consumables self-identify if you get a stack of a certain size (say 3) that would preserve the "your access to consumables is random and restricted in the early game", which is honestly one thing that mak...

You can do extended with Okawaru. Finesse remains good all game.

If you want to convert to TSO, do it before Crypt, so you can build up piety there quickly. Keep in mind that Okawaru wrath can be dangerous.

I wouldn't worry about arrows. You have enough. Just be careful of water/lava.

Weapon power is not directly dependent on weapon mechanics. If I make every mace do 100 base damage will you still use axes? I am not commenting on whether "Axes are the best weapon type" here. The issues are: ⋅ For polearms, is the "interesting" aspect bigger than the...

I started with Nethack (though I don't play it much now, except for a little bit of messing around). It is often useful for me to compare Nethack and Crawl when I'm thinking about stuff. Nethack4 is a fork of vanilla Nethack which has laid out its philosophy in detail. What do people think it (the p...

Wait till you start with an Octopode and find Scales of the Dragon King on D:2.

Simulacra can kill OoF.

You seem to not have used Finesse at all in the later stages (including Zot). Heroism was also used rather rarely. It could be that you felt that you were comfortably winning fights, so you don't need to use god abilities (which is fine). However, if you had problems in Zot, they could have been mit...

Looks pretty good. The rings are really nice.

Most of the dump is truncated, so can't comment more.

Heal wounds restores 9 + (3d28 / 3) HP, so 23 on average. So you will go above 25% HP very likely. After drinking heal wounds, if you get hit with two undodgeable legendary destruction, you will die, of course. However, can you survive one? Not sure, actually. If you cannot even survive one, I think...

Blood saints are fairly tough. You are in danger of dying next turn, and you cannot get out of LoS in one turn, nor can you kill it in one turn. So, by process of elimination, I think you need to drink heal wounds. If you survive, you will have several options: haste and blink are the top ones. I am...

Crawl is not complex enough for your analogy with the relationship between basic physical law and human behavior to hold water, I think. It is certainly true that it's hard to perform explicit calculations, which is why I talk about estimates instead. The reason your results do not match the pictur...

Reaching is still bad. I was inspired to necro this thread when I saw that Brogue implemented reaching on polearms in its latest version.

You seem to be not using LRD at all. LRD is the best spell for EE. You should be using it most of the time. Wield the staff of earth to increase spellpower for LRD. Your training seems to be all over the place. You have trained 14 different skills. Also, your Int seems to be rather low, which will h...

I don't like the idea of removing the ID mini-game because I find it often fun. [...] On the topic of difficulty, I'd like to see the game remove large "spikes" of difficulty. What I mean by spikes are things like, you're on d:1 and a pack of jackals and a couple other things just happen ...

An average 3-rune game generates 14 amnesia scrolls. That number is more than enough to forget any spell you would like to forget. Do not worry about spell slots. I would generally not bother with OoD when you have Iron Shot. With Vehumet, you get 5 range Iron Shot, which is good enough. However, if...

Learn Simulacrum. You can learn whatever else you like.

With 15 shields, I would wear the large shield if the spell failure rate is bearable. A regular shield is also probably better than a buckler.

You haven't got a single rune yet. I would concentrate first on getting the spells which are useful for doing the two Lair branches. You will have plenty of time later to prepare for 15 runes. First, Ozocubu's Armour. For MP-efficient fighting, you can use Battlesphere plus some lvl 1 spell like Fla...

It's true: Skill points are bad. The mechanics of stats are better in general, particularly stat growth. There is no reason skills could not work more or less the way stats do or even be literally implemented as stats. The distinction between stats and skills goes back to the removed concept of &qu...

I wouldn't mind if the formula was made more elegant, but if is optimised for good gameplay atm. Any change would have to be playtested and might not be an improvement. Yes, I agree that any change would have to be playtested. However, I don't know how one can evaluate the statement: "if (it?)...

To compare crawl with another game I play (Brogue), I looked at the difficulty by dungeon depth in Brogue. In Brogue, you have to descend to D:26 to find the amulet of yendor and come back. There is an "extended" (below D:26), but I ignored that part for our purposes. About 13% of games ei...

In general, the point I'm making is not that kills-based piety is perfect, but that it captures the goal better then exploration-based piety. Currently, exploring Shoals:4 gives almost as much piety as exploring Shoals:3, even though the former is tougher. Why is it tougher? Because it has tougher a...

It's possible, but it would be a lot of work. I might do a little bit of it anyway, because I want to see how some races like Nagas and Felids do in the early game. My impression is that Nagas need to be buffed in the early game.

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