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Once Z:5 is cleared reading TP and picking up the orb ~6 turns later is still an effective move. Why wait 6 turns? Nowadays the teleport delay is the same regardless of where the Orb is. The Orb status affects all Zot all the time. It's 6 fewer turns spent with orbrun monsters generating, plus 6 fe...

bel wrote:You had potions of cancellation: you could have cancelled petrify, maybe?

Code:: @: lich-form, very slightly contaminated, slowed, silenced, invisible, deflect

What do you think of formicids being able to be flash-frozen, wear boots of running, wear armour of ponderousness, worship Cheibriados, cast form spells, and walk in shallow water?

I always assumed it was some Devs cute fluff project that they felt some kind of special love for since they seem obviously pointless and in fact are actually slightly harmful since they add unneeded complication to an existing item slot and generate no interesting choices that just minor changes t...

I have seen players expect it to do something against Tornado too. Link it or I'm calling BS. I can't imagine a player that stupid. ##crawl-dev-20181209.lg : 22:37:11 <gammafunk> anyhow I think a good route for the card is to do something with making clouds 22:37:48 <ebering> give it cbls at high p...

No, the knockback really isn't enough to be useful for repositioning monsters. It's only practically useful for the collision damage (and even that isn't great).

For the rMsl scarf ego, the first thing to do is remove the damn deflect missiles spell already. It was changed with the expectation that a working permabuff system has been implemented, there hasn't even been any progress towards such a system and it's been like 5 years since the change, it's not g...

The real loser of the bunch, damage-wise, is force lance, it's the same as IMB but takes an extra spell school (and one that's not shared with the rest of the starting book). It does an additional 2d(1+floor(power/10)) damage if the monster collides with something. But if you don't get a collision ...

Confusing Touch with a higher enchantment power than Confuse would remain better than Confuse against skeletal warriors, golden dragons, and death yaks. It would remain worse than good-spell-power Confuse against ettins and death cobs. It would cease to be better than Confuse against curse toes and ...

But CT can also work on gold/storm/shadow dragons, purple draconians, several tier 1 fiends (others are too high HD), deep elf sorcs/annihilators/etc, spriggans, skeletal warriors, etc...and that's just stuff that immediately comes to mind. All of these enemies have MR such that confusion is imprac...

Would making it check MR instead of HD ruin the spell? Yes, since it's mostly a go-to for stabbers against a wide swath of randomly super-high MR or magic-immune monsters. Then the spell is already ruined, because monster HD closely corresponds to monster MR. There really aren't many monsters with ...

Would making it check MR instead of HD ruin the spell?

You can think of most of the debuff spells as a different form of damage spell. Stone arrow has a chance of killing the monster each cast, which increases with each cast (since the previous casts whittled down its health). Ensorcelled hibernation has a chance of "killing" the monster each ...

The existence of other broken level 1 spells isn't a reason to leave confusing touch alone. It's a reason to fix those spells too.

Also I thought spell power refers to the amount of damage your spells do? I don't think I'm wrong on that one. That's the part where you're wrong, I'm afraid. Spell power determines the damage of some spells, but the formula is never quite as simple as Damage = Spell power * X. For many spells the ...

I prefer the current version, swapping is annoying.

malcoda wrote:This amulet can raise your spell power from 200 to 260! That is a HUGE jump in max spell power.

I'm not sure whether this is a misinterpretation of what harm does or a misinterpretation of what spell power does (in which case you're also ignoring the effect of AC, I guess), but either way, I love it.

HD/XL-resisted stuff is awful, it doesn't even use one consistent formula so meph and confusing touch have slightly different chances of working, for example.

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Then I see how many people die in the first S-branch without finding a rune. !lg * !boring 0.22 br=(Snake|Shoals|Spider|Swamp) urune<1 x=count(gid) <Sequell> 4821 games for * (!boring 0.22 br=(Snake|Shoals|Spider|Swamp) urune<1): count(game_key)=4821 That isn't what this query gives you. It gives y...

Tulse wrote:I had no idea flying interacted with trample at all.

You had no idea because flying doesn't interact with trample at all.

given that you can block malmutations with a level 1 spell, i don't see much use in a level 8 spell blocking malmutations

Necromutation removes the food clock, allowing for millions of turns to meticulously reveal each unseen tile of a floor in a theoretically optimal, perfectly safe manner. You can't cast Necromutation early enough for this to be useful. Perhaps if Pan didn't have monster spawns it would be a differe...

Hydra Form is way more useful than Necromutation. Sure it's mostly just a weaker version of Dragon Form, but it's lower level than Dragon Form and still gives you a big damage increase, some extra HP, and move delay 6 in water (a lot of levels have water on them these days). Necromutation on the oth...

nago wrote:I would prefer revification on hells' level because you could always get killed by a unresistalble and unpredictable hell's effect, or probably even in situations like half of a pan level cleared - where smiters and things like that could always appear in LOS.

The trick is to memorize both spells

bel wrote:Why not just play a Demigod from the start?

I think it's implied that this would replace the Dg species.

I've played a few melee Vp runs, and Alive is definitely the way to go for most of the 3-rune game. Regen, fangs and not being frail. It's just better unless you're facing a lot of torment or can really leverage the stealth. Funny, I think the opposite: in my opinion bloodless better than Alive for...

species screen: "They move slowly but are naturally resilient."
game: worse starting AC+EV than ogre or octopode

In 1., human is now biased towards strength because it gets it first. The current system doesn't have this problem.
In 2., now players can figure out which stat(s) they'll get next by looking at which stats they've already gotten, which is extra work. The current system doesn't have this problem.

Species stat gain is randomized so that species can gain more than one stat while still only gaining 1 stat point at a time. Getting +1 of a stat at levels 4, 8, and 12 is more granular than getting +1 to all three stats at level 8. If you removed species stat gain altogether, I suspect very few pla...

I will not stand for this Haunt erasure

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With monsters now using even more wands, this is even more important.

Ranged formicid "builds" are already stronger than melee formicid "builds".

Taking Jiyva on the Speed Challenge will break the restrictions and cause you to get 0 points, so I don't recommend that.

You can typically cap Jiyva piety right away by going to previously beaten levels and letting jellies eat all the items there.

The Crawl Bonus Tournament officially started a number of hours ago, but I was in the toilet, so I didn't post about it then. Let's get the ball rolling!

this proposal is better than current DD but it's also like, just an HP version of pakellas, and i'm not sure that's gonna work well either

bel wrote:There are no XL breakpoints in my system. Partial levels count.

This would only get rid of the breakpoints if every XL had the same experience cost. But every XL has a different cost, so there is still a breakpoint at every XL.

However, even if we assume that this goal of "collect all the runes for a high score" is a desirable goal, is it really violated by a linear function? I am not sure I am parsing your next statement correctly, but it seems that you're making a mistake. All that is required for the next run...

⋅ Since there's a (runes) squared term in the score, it is almost always desirable to get all the runes you can. Getting later runes is nowhere near as tough as getting the earlier runes, so the (runes) squared term makes no sense. Quadratic rune scoring makes perfect sense if you want h...

Vampires need to have hunger, or some other timer like ghoul rot. This has always been an issue with the species, but it should be easier to address now that their alive/bloodless system doesn't involve time. The ability to spend a million turns per level is tedious, optimal, and overpowered on Mu, ...

Nope. You can worship Jiyva. It's only a 4-point challenge.

Is it in the spirit of this tournament to practice (or do evaluate runs of) the challenges before the tournament starts? That's completely fine. Does Ashenzari's curse item ability counts as the usage of the remove curse scroll? And Gozag's potion petition counts as usage of potions? No to both. Th...

About The Crawl Bonus Tournament is a short Crawl competition (maximum possible playtime is 12 hours). It's run by me and is not affiliated with any developers or server operators. Entering To enter, just put the line # CRAWLBONUS anywhere in your online Crawl account's options file. You must enter...

so i think this is fairly ontopic: while dungeon as a whole is by far the best branch, Dungeon:1 specifically is extremely lacking in Exciting Stuff(tm). very few substantive vaults can generate there. like half the items in the game are banned or nearly banned from generating on d:1 (except in vaul...

That would mostly be a newbie trap, it would basically never be a good idea to turn it off.

I have (I think) all of the ttyrecs from crawl.s-z.org, roughly 270 GB compressed. However, I do not have most of the files from the morgue directory (morgues, corresponding .lsts and timestamps) or the configuration/macro files. Does anyone else happen to have them?

It's seriously quite easy if you just play it like any other melee character of Trog Other berserkers can beat popcorn monsters (easily), for a felid it is fify-fifty. Maybe if you waste all your xp in stealth and evocations. But as long as you train unarmed combat it does just fine against all mon...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-1707-g75daffb (console) character file. 1431464 minmay the Sabretooth (level 26, 159/159 HPs) Began as a Felid Berserker on Dec 31, 2013. Was the Champion of Trog. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on Jan 1, 2014! The game lasted 03:43:32 (98731 turns). m...

Often you can only get one, and have to cut AC to wear crappy body armor for it. In these cases MR checks are a serious problem and can occasionally end runs to paralysis and the like when you can't control LoS or first go into Orc. Maybe if you wore body armour that gave you good AC, you would die...

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