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Monday, 10th February 2020, 22:12

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Corrupting Pulse length?

Replies: 2

Views: 1971

Re: Corrupting Pulse length?

Actually I just checked and it's been over 10k turns! What gives?

Monday, 10th February 2020, 22:02

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Corrupting Pulse length?

Replies: 2

Views: 1971

Corrupting Pulse length?

Hey guys, How long does corrupting pulse last? http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Corrupter I got into a big fight in Pan and gained a whole load of mutations, but from a corrupter. I'm sure I remember these wearing off fairly quickly in the past, but I've waited around 2000 turns and I still have all of t...

Saturday, 8th February 2020, 16:41

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD: OpTm^Oka

Replies: 2

Views: 1768

Re: YASD: OpTm^Oka

I’ve been playing a LOT of Op lately. I started with exclusively OpTm and died a lot because of blade hands lack of defense. IMHO OpFi is superior to OpTm. The only transmutation spell you need is statue form, and that doesn’t come in the starting book. Sticks to snakes is useful, but a common find;...

Friday, 7th February 2020, 02:33

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Spiketaur

Replies: 9

Views: 3071

Re: Spiketaur

The reason you want to close distance is at minimum the monster has a chance to hit you with an attack that is weaker than its ranged options (IE orc priest choosing melee over smite). This isn't true. The chance of an orc priest smiting is the same whether you're next to it or not. Same for monste...

Friday, 7th February 2020, 02:26

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Spiketaur

Replies: 9

Views: 3071

Re: Spiketaur

In a large percentage of the games I play, the most inconvenient thing I see is an early centaur. You can’t run away from them and you get peppered with arrows as you approach them. Dealing with them before D:10 or so always requires caution, lest you charge them and walk into a pack of nasties. IMH...

Thursday, 6th February 2020, 22:19

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

Ok, think I'm done for the night! Highlights: -Found controlled blink. But have about 20 scrolls of blinking anyway... go figure -Entered Lom Lobon level and appeared literally NEXT to Lom Lobon. Dragon form, read teleport, and killed him before the teleport went off. Teleported about 15 tiles away ...

Thursday, 6th February 2020, 19:51

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

It's funny your post should mention hellfire, because I just came to post in this thread while I'm playing. I'm back with TSO and in Pan. I got the hellion island demonic rune level; which I've never seen before. Jesus christ, what the heck is that all about?! I cleared the rest of the level and tr...

Thursday, 6th February 2020, 18:36

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

It's funny your post should mention hellfire, because I just came to post in this thread while I'm playing. I'm back with TSO and in Pan. I got the hellion island demonic rune level; which I've never seen before. Jesus christ, what the heck is that all about?! I cleared the rest of the level and tri...

Wednesday, 5th February 2020, 09:46

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

Statue will always have much better defense and it will almost always feel "safer" Dragon form does give you more HP than statue form; I'd suggest it has better defense against quite a few monsters. But Dragon form has much less AC and 0 SH. Surely this makes up for it? (Unless unresistab...

Saturday, 1st February 2020, 15:01

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

Problem with Zin is no transmuts... so no dragon form :( When I used dragon form I guess I just tried to pay attention to the feel of how many button presses it took to kill a given monster / pack of monsters. I didn't feel like it was that much noticeably less than statue form (which is weird becau...

Friday, 31st January 2020, 13:42

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: TSO->Zin->TSO To remove muts?

Replies: 15

Views: 5762

Re: TSO->Zin->TSO To remove muts?

Do you do Slime?

A single shining eye gave me Berserkitis, clumsy 1, frail 1 and low mp1 in a couple of turns despite me using summon butterflies to block LOS.

I had to use 2/3 mut pots to get rid of berserkitis, and then an OOF gave me deterioration 2 on zot:2.

Friday, 31st January 2020, 12:07

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: TSO->Zin->TSO To remove muts?

Replies: 15

Views: 5762

Re: TSO->Zin->TSO To remove muts?

Yeah, I just hate mutations, and panicked a bit at degeneration 2. Only have 1 mut pot left with plenty of mutations possible. Currently scumming abyss for more mut potions but its getting old quick. Wanted to finish 15 runes with TSO, but Zin's mutation protection is really good, and I hear his abi...

Thursday, 30th January 2020, 15:02

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: TSO->Zin->TSO To remove muts?

Replies: 15

Views: 5762

Re: TSO->Zin->TSO To remove muts?

Jivya is definitely something I'll look at in future, but not an option this game because I've already killed TRJ which the Wiki says makes Jivya unavailable.

Perhaps my next OP will be of Jivya though. I am enjoying playing OP's as of late!

Thursday, 30th January 2020, 13:03

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

Statueform is 50% slower than Dragonform, which makes things appear to die relatively fast (from your perspective) whilst still giving them more actions before they die. Against OoF specifically, rF++ should make Dragonform tanky enough. Yeah, I have kinda mentally noted specific use cases for Drag...

Thursday, 30th January 2020, 12:12

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: DCSS familiar - a weapon damage calculator

Replies: 6

Views: 4053

Re: DCSS familiar - a weapon damage calculator

Hey, Just tried to use this tool and it doesn't seem to be working. Perhaps it's not implemented yet for what I want it to do? I was trying to compare the damage output for the same character in Statue form, and dragon form. The tool doesn't seem to account for the forms though. Both show 6.4 Auts a...

Thursday, 30th January 2020, 12:00

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

I actually don't use dragon form. I think I may actually get comparable damage from Statue form in this game; and my defenses are vastly increased. Reason being is that in dragon form I lose 12 strength and 5 slaying from shield and hat meld. 10 STR is added back on by dragon form itself, but my def...

Thursday, 30th January 2020, 09:18

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: TSO->Zin->TSO To remove muts?

Replies: 15

Views: 5762

Re: TSO->Zin->TSO To remove muts?

Interesting idea, I'd never even looked at Jivya as a god choice.

Two issues:

-You gain negative mutations upon leaving
-I murdered TRJ

Wednesday, 29th January 2020, 23:15

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

Also, how bad can deterioration 2 get?

Like, how much stats could I stand to lose in a big fight? Could I end up with like, -10 int or so? (Making me useless at casting spells)

Wednesday, 29th January 2020, 23:13

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

It sounds like you may have placed the lighting spire suboptimally since you had to use beckoning, though sometimes that can't be avoided. Also dragon form would have helped more than statueform. But you're mostly just unlucky. Melee dudes get mutated :( I used beckoning only because the OOF got ar...

Wednesday, 29th January 2020, 22:53

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

I encountered an orb of fire on Zot:2 and ended up getting the deterioration 2 mutation. Obviously OOF's are hella strong, but I found the lightning spire didn't really work to block LOS... Well, it did - but it went like this: OOF into view place lightning spire between me and it, OOF approached me...

Wednesday, 29th January 2020, 22:47

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: TSO->Zin->TSO To remove muts?

Replies: 15

Views: 5762

TSO->Zin->TSO To remove muts?

Guys, I have an OpFi going at the moment that has a couple of annoying mutations (6 negative, non species innate mutations including deterioration 2) I only have 1 potion of mutation left in the game. I've cleared most stuff except zot:2 onwards and hells/pan/tomb. Converting to Zin for extended is ...

Sunday, 26th January 2020, 11:54

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

Why lightning spire? I’be never used it, but I assume I can just drop it and walk away so I can’t get mutated, but it will zap away at the mutator?

Friday, 24th January 2020, 17:50

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

Thanks for the advice. I did slime, and despite gratuitous use of summon butterflys whenever shining eyes showed up, 51 strength, and silver javelins, I ended up with Blurry vision 1 and Berserkitis 1. (Plus some other random not great muts) There are 3 !Mut in the game. I quaffed one and got some b...

Friday, 24th January 2020, 16:26

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP: GnFi^Gozag, former Tycoon

Replies: 3

Views: 1733

Re: YAVP: GnFi^Gozag, former Tycoon

congrats, I'd still like to do a Gozag game. I've never managed to really get very far with him. Same is true with Gnolls. Perhaps once I finish my OpFi and my DEFE (Both XL27 and in extended, DEFE has only Tomb left to clear) Whats the real benefit of Gozag then? buying sweet gear from many shops t...

Thursday, 23rd January 2020, 21:10

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

Vaults:5 done. Wasn't too tricky with a combination of stair dancing, and a teleport when I got really bogged down and a warden locked down the stairs. TSO Conversion done, Went off to crypt which felt insanely easy. That got me to full piety, then I went into abyss and got that rune. Okawaru wrath ...

Thursday, 23rd January 2020, 14:40

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD: White Dragon of TSO (bcrawl)

Replies: 6

Views: 2315

Re: YASD: White Dragon of TSO (bcrawl)

Hubris is always your enemy. I find a disproportionate amount of my deaths are caused by doing things that I didn't actually need to do, and I just do them anyway because of my completionist tendencies!

Thursday, 23rd January 2020, 12:52

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

Am i right in thinking I can't use BVC with TSO?

EDIT: Also wondering if its worth investing the skill to get deflect missiles online. I've only ever really considered it mandatory for shoals, but I've done that now. Not sure how many missiles I will face going forward after this?

Thursday, 23rd January 2020, 12:29

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

I'd take a shaft into V:5 whilst still with Oka, but your plan also sounds good. Good luck :) I did consider that. I'm still terribly frightened though! Only times I've done V:5 is with a firestorm capable DEFE with immolation scrolls, or with a plated MIBE with cleaving axes. Blow everything up in...

Thursday, 23rd January 2020, 12:14

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

So I've pushed fighting and UC A lot. Now focusing on Invocations (For imminent TSO conversion) and Dodging (As I felt higher HP was more beneficial than EV with Statue form) Skills: - Level 20.6 Fighting - Level 7.5 Throwing + Level 14.1 Dodging - Level 10.0 Stealth - Level 15.0 Shields - Level 19....

Friday, 17th January 2020, 13:33

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Cloning Webtiles To Local

Replies: 5

Views: 2225

Re: Cloning Webtiles To Local

Thanks guys. I'm not looking to have it exactly the same, more just want to run through Tomb with my current character so I know a bit of what to expect. It's not necessary to get it completely the same, although. I guess I would need to somehow skip to the tomb entrance. I've tried &# and it ju...

Friday, 17th January 2020, 12:07

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

Elf:3 done without issue. Still no god damn RF+ Items though!!! :(

The best large shield available is just a plain +8 one. I'm not sure extra SH and +8 AC is worth trading 5 slaying, 4 str and MR+ when I'm already struggling to maintain MR+++....

Friday, 17th January 2020, 11:42

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

I think that shield is a large shield? It says it needs 15 skill to remove the penalty... I probably should have used heroism to be fair. 5 extra UC would have been beneficial for sure. Dodging also. My shield skill is enough for now I think though. I'll have a look at Yara's and irradiate. Are ther...

Thursday, 16th January 2020, 22:49

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

So that was close! Started doing the depths, ran into Nikola. Started fighting him and then Mennas and a bunch of stone giant turned up! I re-casted statue form as soon as I saw Mennas and activated finesse. I killed Nikola and then proceeded to start on the rest. Mennas was silencing me and I was g...

Thursday, 16th January 2020, 18:01

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Cloning Webtiles To Local

Replies: 5

Views: 2225

Re: Cloning Webtiles To Local

Can you elaborate a bit on this?

When I press # in wizmode, it just says its not a wizmode command and dumps my character file for the local, offline player?

Thursday, 16th January 2020, 13:51

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Cloning Webtiles To Local

Replies: 5

Views: 2225

Cloning Webtiles To Local

Quick Question, Is it possible to clone a webtiles game to a local save? It may be a little scummy, but theres lots of situations where I'd like to be able to run through a simulation of a particular branch with my current webtiles character. I've tried doing this before in wizmode, but couldn't fig...

Thursday, 16th January 2020, 13:18

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

Also, Amulet of spirit shield, or amulet of regeneration? Spirit shield is nice I think but I'm wary of ending up with no MP. Havin said that, I generally just cast Statue form and then melee everything, so it may not be such an issue. Regen is 0.36 per turn vs 0.76 per turn. I guess spirit shield g...

Thursday, 16th January 2020, 13:08

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Diversify thrown vs slings

Replies: 11

Views: 3533

Re: Diversify thrown vs slings

I agree with the logic about running throws, and I like the idea of it. My take: - a -20% penalty on standing throws is probably not enough to discourage it, given that LOS is 7 tiles. This gives you approx 3 running throws, or 7 (or more) standing throws before close quarters engagement. It may sti...

Thursday, 16th January 2020, 12:10

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD: TeFe 15 runes. Died in Tomb

Replies: 4

Views: 2009

Re: CIP: TeFe 8 runes

Died in Tomb. So sad. I discovered spamming fire storm on Greater Mummies when I was very low on health was a bad idea. I scored a "Pain" death curse from the message history. Didnt realise their death curses could kill :roll: I probably approached Tomb the wrong way too. Blasting everyth...

Thursday, 16th January 2020, 11:53

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

So I've done elf:1 and the fire damage is punishing. I don't have any sources of RF+, and my shield has RF-. It also has MR+, STR+4 and Slaying +5, so I'd like to keep using it. This leaves me with no RF resistance (I have 1 ring of fire protection) I'm not sure what to do about that situation. Ther...

Wednesday, 15th January 2020, 13:10

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Noob question re:Skills

Replies: 5

Views: 2437

Noob question re:Skills

Quick and nooby question.

Do skills count if they aren't trained to the full number?

E.g is 10.1 in spellcasting better than 10? Or do you need 11 to see any benefit?

Does this apply to all skills?

Thursday, 9th January 2020, 14:22

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Slime creature change

Replies: 8

Views: 3711

Re: Slime creature change

I think this would be a large buff to slime creatures, if I'm not mistaken. Normally, it takes a turn to merge. In the example you give, if the player came downstairs to find that - said player would be liable for 22 damage if he chose to fight. The possibility exists for the creatures to merge, and...

Saturday, 4th January 2020, 19:52

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: Now YAVP : MfTm^Chei !

Replies: 2

Views: 1498

Re: CiP : MfTm^Chei !

I think it would make slouch marginally more effective, yes - but that's about it. You are slower than everything in the game anyway pretty much, I think its worth it for +8 personally!

Saturday, 4th January 2020, 13:08

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

Thinking of going TSO but not sure when to do it... What counts as an evil creature? (Which branches?)

Thursday, 2nd January 2020, 14:19

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

So I finished off shoals, then went back to kill some early dungeon I'd previously excluded (Sigmund and a couple of ruined rooms with ghosts / enemy packs in) On d:3 where Sigmund was, I found a shop with a +6 evasion ring and a +4 int ring. Bought those, cleared out rune door room with a couple of...

Sunday, 29th December 2019, 14:11

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: DCSS familiar - a weapon damage calculator

Replies: 6

Views: 4053

Re: DCSS familiar - a weapon damage calculator

Nice stuff! I was looking for something like this recently. One suggestion - it may be a good idea to make the "Character dump file" text box larger. I saw the size of it and immediately assumed I just had to paste the link to an online morgue, which didn't work. It would be great if the b...

Sunday, 29th December 2019, 14:05

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Update stair logic (nerf stair dancing)

Replies: 86

Views: 24205

Re: Update stair logic (nerf stair dancing)

EDIT: Removed because Duvessa is right below me. I have nothing to add :)

Saturday, 28th December 2019, 16:36

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: Did they remove helmets or some shit?

Replies: 4

Views: 2483

Re: Did they remove helmets or some shit?

Happens!

You can guarantee if you were playing a minotaur you'd have found many, many shimmering / transparent / distressingly furry helmets by D:10.

Saturday, 28th December 2019, 16:35

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Majin-Bo

Replies: 5

Views: 2723

Re: Majin-Bo

I can't remember exactly what it does, but I seem to remember something about -1HP for every MP spent. Considering my character was one that just spammed firestorm at absolutely every opportunity, never hit things, and had no trouble killing stuff, I never used it. I tried it once I think in pan or ...

Wednesday, 18th December 2019, 19:24

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP:15 Rune DEFE Mk957

Replies: 78

Views: 22886

Re: CIP: DEFE Mk957

I forgot its basically Christmas week! Will keep you guys updated, but won’t be this week!

Wednesday, 18th December 2019, 18:45

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 87

Views: 61403

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

Also, can I use swiftness while in statue form, or is that a bad idea?

Obviously I’ll focus getting statue online first, but it’s just a complimentary combo I thought of!
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