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how about just letting cursed rings give uc buff?

i don't play alot of ash so idk if this would be good, just an idea

forgot adders

If they are smart enough to team up, they should.

Snakes and zombies and skellys aren't that smart.

I have taken off faith ammy to slow down Veh gifts

but that was only really necessary because I had the faith ammy equipped in the first place

Turukano wrote:Chei is the most popular god for successful speedruns!

the irony

forgot how awesome permamnesia is

duvessa wrote:Monsters shouldn't be preventing each other from attacking effectively.

why?

are they all on the same team?

can we maybe

not

make slime

more obnoxious

thx

I'd hate to waste a level-up stat point on Int though (esp for a Fi)

4 int isn't really much better than 3, especially considering, as you said, int drain won't usually take you by surprise.

Knowing that snakes aren't smart enough to move aside to let the bear attack However this isn't anymore true in trunk! I don't like this. The fact that monsters only cooperate if they are very smart or used to working together is the kind of thing that makes Crawl's intelligence system so interesti...

General rules of thumb for brands: * elec, pain and disto are best on fast weps because their damage is additive (it adds a flat amount to your hit so more hits = more brand damage) * flame, freeze, vorpal are best on big slow weps because their damage is multiplicative (it adds a % of damage dealt...

totally forgot about antimagic

Oh yeah forgot about Ice Beast

very strong summon

Take advantage of Mf's filthy +4 polearms apt to beef up your offense. Early branded trident or spear is strong. Or try a Wizard (Ds/HE are my favs), as they have alot of spells that you can leverage to avoid damage while still attacking (meph, conj flame, blink, call imp, magic dart's full los rang...

General rules of thumb for brands: * elec, pain and disto are best on fast weps because their damage is additive (it adds a flat amount to your hit so more hits = more brand damage) * flame, freeze, vorpal are best on big slow weps because their damage is multiplicative (it adds a % of damage dealt ...

Elec whip ALL DAY

Then use the first decently branded great mace or morning/eveningstar that you can find

I prefer 2H but I've won with a +9 non-artifact branded evening star + shield no prob

I don't understand the "ghost moths cause tedium" complaint. For some (many? most?) people, the primary indicator that you should stop mindlessly tabbing things and pay attention to a newly arrived threat is that you actually see the monster appear on screen. Ghost moths don't have that i...

Shaols is MUCH easier with perma-flight btw

Te/Gr/Dr(black) or evocable flight preferably

njvack wrote:Remember that mephitic is very loud; it will encourage buddies to come see you.

I actually did not know this thank you!

Had a great little play last night ########## ...@.##### ####S##### ####.h.... ########## I was low health and in the open, the black bear zerked and 1 more smack from him would have killed me. Blinked until I got into this corridor with the adder between the zerking bear and me. Knowing that snakes...

Funny, the slower pace is something I actually prefer about online play.

Makes me ALOT less likely to rush and make stupid decisions.

I tend to go back and forth from lair to orc

No mouse support ruins online for me

Easier solution: add Invo to the list of skills that Sif appreciates you training

thanks alot for that cheq

WildSam wrote:Play a GrCK and tell me Xom doesn't rek.
My friend won it at first try and it was his 5th (fifth!) Crawl run.

I love Xom haha

TrCK^Xom is always fun

MiFi^Qaz absolutely reks

Sar wrote:https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/search.php

should have been linked in the first place tbh

"hurr durr use the search" adds nothing and is kind of sassy
"this topic was made already and here it is" is helpful and cool

just sayin' bros

Not all combos are supposed to be strong.

archaeo wrote:There's an argument to be made that Sif and Veh are boring (I think the latter moreso than the former)

Veh is one of my favorite gods

never know what spells you're gonna get

Play a TrMo and tell me unarmed doesn't rek.

yes I agree that is definitely the underlying principle

hydra will also walk right into flame clouds =)

how to crawl:

train up your killdudes until you can kill dudes
then train up your notdies until you can not die
then train up your killdudes until you can kill dudes again
then train up your notdies until you can not die again
. . .
win

Link?

Just lost everything I typed out

In retrospect, the advice boiled down to "Conjure Flame owns"

In particular: Meph+Conj Flame synergize very well, as you can combo them to force enemies to wander into fire clouds.

HEEn is also a solid combo

caster-stabber rather than melee-stabber

go qaz and rek everything

The best hybrid background is probably IE. Pick some strong species that is not horrible at ice magic. Also, try berserker. Yeah, technically you can't use magic, but you have god powers that let you play a melee / self-buff / summoner hybrid that is not unlike IE. Species: Mi is the best, followed...

It is also pretty wonderful when your summoned imps blink away from anywhere useful.

strong agree w/ Ds suggestion

DSWz
HEWz
HEEn
VpEn
KoSm
KoEn
KoAs
MfIE
DrFE

any En^Dith is awesome

lairsprint sounds like a fun sprint map

Veh just gifted spellforged serv

no summoning skills

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16.2 (tiles) character file. workr the Destroyer (Demonspawn Wizard) Turns: 39422, Time: 03:21:13 Health: 103/103 AC: 7 Str: 9 XL: 14 Next: 61% Magic: 33/33 EV: 16 Int: 27 God: Vehumet [******] Gold: 488 SH: 0 Dex: 20 Spells: 9 memorised, 2 levels left rFire . . ....

neil wrote:Proposed solution: merge bows and crossbows.

Edgy.

I like it.

make it a smite-targeted aoe like pcloud

Abyss w/ rMut is usually easiest ime

I'm not native English, so I ask this seriously. Is it bad style in English to call something by it's name, that is, mention the word "slowed" when you are slowed? No, but from a flavor perspective it's nicer to read something like "Wrath has made you extreme lethargic." rather ...

njvack wrote:Also IIRC there is no distortion ammo or launcher.

edit: yeah, dispersal

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