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The idea of summons that cannot block monsters has been around for a while under the name "illusion mechanics." Monsters walk through them and destroy or switch places with them, never attack them etc. It's a good reform to allies in general, but I don't see it making the summoning school ...

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The actual issue is that you can always carry all the tactically useful items you have access to at the cost of not carrying things whose direct possession at any given time is mere convenience. So this rousing appeal to the idea of choice denies the basis of the entire conversation. Cool!

The ancient champion change is almost as easy to make as it is to post about it. The broader project would be a lot of hours of negotiation for someone without commit access. Just my two cents.

What are you talking about?

I think different effect patterns were considered for digging in the past. Combining the digging effect with both the acid and scattershot effects (perhaps renaming the latter to something like blasting) and doing the roulette thing on these two types would probably work. Total reduction of two wand...

petercordia wrote:I'd be in favour of randomly removing some types of evo items from every game

This is by far the best solution. Should be applied to potion and scroll types as well.

Man, this is a blast from the past. Thought I could resist, but sorry folks... "Roguelike" is a brand. There's this network of platforms, podcasts, and so forth called by their managers a "community," but computer games are, at least potentially, products and therefore there is a...

chequers wrote:How does this change the current behaviour?

Currently, D drops the last item you picked up, which is not always the same thing as the last thing you picked up or unequipped (or whatever other things these guys are talking about).

See subject line, with the exception of weapon swapping via the ' command. This would reduce tedium from early game equipment churn.

There is no such thing as "not going to happen." If these features are important to you, play forks that have them. Request features like sort by average damage in ctrl-F, if not in dcss then in other crawl projects. You may think people don't change, but personnel does and the fact is som...

Yeah, the game should just tell you straight up which of two weapons is better. It would be a reasonable addition to the dungeon crawl item search engine. Compare weapon and armor qualities, automatically rank them etc. So much mystification around these things could be eliminated by very simple, ob...

The reason autotraining exists in dcss is its connection with Linley's dungeon crawl skills. It does not help new players to have a bad default option. The talk about new players is at best an excuse for keeping it around. If anyone cares about helping new players just play the game (outside of play...

Thanks guys, always reassuring to get the daily reminder that bad things are actually good.

It's very weird that this vestigial feature that you turn off at the beginning of every game is still around. Seems like there's a fair amount of code going into its implementation too. Would be good to get rid of it.

By that token, changing a single aptitude by any multiple of 3 makes no difference, right? What a clever, worthwhile thing to post.

You're not wrong but the decision to NOT show explicit numbers most of the time was and is a base design consideration for DCSS from the beginning. Just as I'm against over-meddling with stair mechanics, I feel changing this would be a strong alteration of the basic "flavor" of the game, ...

I think you're confused about how this stuff works.

This is totally unresponsive. If you spent the time to think about the arguments people make about this, read things that have been written here, you would know that simply removing the equipment is not the end of the story.

There is no baby and that's not bathwater. Hellcrawl has removed a lot of monster equipment, particularly armor for low tier monsters like orc warriors, wizards, etc. There is still an insane amount of junk dumped into the game through monster equipment for no gain in gameplay. Of course, removing t...

You can get their ttyrecs and watch their games. edit: the ttyrecs are in https://webzook.net/soup/ttyrecs/Engine/ -- these files contain whole sessions, they are indexed by IRC bots as described above, but you can grab them right out of the directory and play them locally. Just have to get a ttyrec...

I don't see why an effect that has a chance to distract a monster when you melee it is necessarily overpowered. Lots of room to adjust for balance there. Main problem is that the natural models are duration spells.

edit: lol n/m

Frankly, there's more potential in moving beyond "weapon classes" as traditionally conceived in crawl Cool, still not going to happen A year ago, I would have said there's no way they'll ever get rid of all the bolt spells. If the horizon is changing the aptitude table, it's all that'll e...

Frankly, there's more potential in moving beyond "weapon classes" as traditionally conceived in crawl (basically a parallel of the weapon proficiency concept of AD&D, surprisingly poorly executed). It's the same as the old six flavors of bolt spell situation. In the misguided pursuit o...

"What about hydras?" lmao Actually, straight UC is the same as using M&F. It does not matter that there are different ways to slightly modulate the qualities of your melee attacks with a giant club. These factors are insignificant compared to the overwhelming similarity in the mechanic...

Buddy, let me know when you have logic of your own to lay on me.

This is intended to provide a replacement for Ogres old big club aptitude and playstyle in Trolls. This way Ogre stays more of a versatile fat human, while Trolls get an alternative melee style that is not so clearly inferior to Unarmed Combat. It also helps differentiate their relationship to big ...

So first, Corona has all the usual targeting issues. It's also a pretty subtle effect that doesn't always work and doesn't always last that long when it does. I would suggest that this is too boring and too fiddly to work as a spell. I would suggest either de-targeting the spell with an AOE effect s...

Gotta say, the roguelike purist (??) who can't spell "roguelike" is a good bit, though there's nothing particularly "roguelike" about the dcss skill system, outside of its obscurantism.

But those clouds don't attract monsters. Takes a lot longer.

Okay, so a guy goes into the dungeon and meets Suzhen. She transforms. He teleports away and waits. 1000 turns later the two of them are the only things alive on the level! :lol:

lol where do you guys come up with this stuff?

Giant clubs are lame and should be removed. Can't believe people are still interested in this nonsense.

It can't be going overboard to bring the game more in line with better and more successful games' mechanics. Through forks, we've had a lot of experience with these kinds of changes and they turn out to be improvements pretty much every time. The ability to make more fine grained choices under const...

You're right to connect the complexity and extreme interactivity of crawl skills (you can change allocation of skill points at the granularity of individual kills) with the problem of mental overhead, the vastly superior gameplay of gnolls over other species, etc. This can never be adequately addres...

edit: oh weird, this somehow posted to the wrong thread... sry folks...

Not going to give a more detailed explanation on the basis of fatuous claims that I've actually given no explanation.

lol i just said why it's bad

Settings made before the game or out of the game in a configuration file to modulate its mechanics, notably including difficulty settings, are bad. Everyone should play same game. There should be no question about what various outside settings do, discussion of their effect on the game wherever the ...

It is well known that using autoexplore, especially early in the game, frequently gets you killed. That has always been true, probably always will be. More than that, a big part of the motivation for autoexplore is these ridiculous systems of corridors whose generation we can literally just turn off.

About corridors, as I keep saying, the answer is to reduce the incidence of corridors (many corridor-heavy layouts could simply be removed without any loss to the game), but also you don't have to explore corridors fully. Just like skipping dangerous monsters, you can skip dangerous terrain and come...

Yeah, the point is to stop the player from luring monsters into situations like you describe, so they have to fight monsters near where they generate. I strongly agree that the luring-heavy gameplay of dcss is bad. One way corridors sounds fine to me, except for the corridor part, but that's one of ...

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I think it's more useful to think about space and terrain than time and clocks, which is why hostile terrain seems like the more promising approach to problems with luring. Approaches, like old timey spawns, that conceive the problem in terms of time constraints have proven to be failures. (The clos...

Irregular features create more variety of positions in that you have different configurations of walls with respect to a shortest path around a feature, for example, different kinds of corners, etc. If you compare e.g. vaults layouts, I think you'll see that your best positions to stand and fight ar...

I mention lair-style "ruin"-based and noise function-based layouts as reasonably successful examples though? I felt my talk about loops layouts and my transformation of them was fairly concrete too.

There's only one substantive reply in this thread and its argument specialized to the case actually contemplated in the OP comes down to "if you do this, something new will happen." Big if true. Like if you take this argument seriously, it hinges on the idea that a new optimum must be uniq...

You could submit your changes for inclusion in the branch tho.

It's open source, dude. Hack it.

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