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advil wrote:A few devs do have access rights to manually add CDO mantis/tavern accounts, it is sort of a pain to do though.

Also it's hard for me to imagine a new player with a question getting in touch with a dev to ask for a tavern account. (I'd have given up had that been required, I suspect.)

Well I certainly think having a thing like Tavern is extremely valuable, and especially for the newbies who are the ones being screened out; I don't like reddit. Of course I don't know how hard setting up a new forum is.

I think Magipi's objection (or one of them) was that the "Wand of change" is actually called "Wand of polymorph" and the "Wand of fire" is actually called "Wand of flame". (And the "creatures that change colour" are called "ugly things". An...

Of course, this won't affect players who never do extended anyway.

I suppose it at least gives a focused question to post here; "was it my offense or defense that was inadequate?" is a better question than "why did I die?"

I suppose I've never gotten good enough at using darts.

If you want to become a good player, start to learn from your deaths. Every time you die you must ask yourself - "why did I die?" Typical answers are "I didn't have proper resistances", "my attack was too weak", "I wasted XP by training foo", "I should h...

If anything, I'd think the addition of Dithmenos made things better in that regard, since that greatly increases how many things one can stab naturally. But, yeah, hex-less stabbing is a rather large newbie trap IMO.

How would they work stat-wise? I have the sense Str would be mostly wasted on them; but maybe not?

Right, I did not mean to suggest that the letter should be changed to 'u'.

Personally, I'm in the latter camp, but when I want to take something off, I always use T or R, however I would find it to actually be really really bad thing to have the default be to remove things with the W or P keys, as I'd hit the wrong thing occasionally and not notice I'd taken something off...

Glad to know I wasn't imagining it, at least.

Sure, this is obviously not optimal play. My point is that I suspect someone will do it anyway (out of confusion about the rules) and get burned.

I thought the wiki might know if this had changed; but the wiki said all blinks there were random. It's not "anyone can edit", though, right?

Or, possibly, think some status (drain? stat loss?) times out when it doesn't. And wait, patiently, several thousand turns for it to do so.

Couldn't this lead to situations where the game was unwinnable despite the character's being alive? Say if one is in Lair but the Dungeon clock is at 14,999; one's trapped then, right?

As is rCorr; entropy weavers can make a situation much more dangerous.

a) Swamp is quite dangerous without some way to kill hydrae; they go fast in water, so, unlike in Lair, running away isn't a general solution. b) I think Shoals is the most dangerous for new players; the threats are very different from the ones you encounter in D, Lair and Orc, and you can lose free...

I tried Sil but found the ability trees (if that's what they're called) off-putting; I had the sense there was (at least for any given kindred) a unique optimal selection, which any competent player would know (but I didn't).

Thus showing that one can have been playing this game for 6 years and still be confused about the rules. Thanks!

I guess as ex-portals they make sense.

I thought this was always uncontrolled. Has this changed? I somehow managed to do a controlled blink (with the scroll) to the rune, and another one to relative safety, in a recent game.

Do people like arches? I can see the argument that, when present, they make it harder to find timed portals, which might be desirable. But they're essentially just a mimic that only fools magic mapping, which strikes me as a weird effect.

Well if you had that and were wearing the rF boots then that would have been two pips, which is likely enough.

Does this make it correct for at least some characters (non-Trog, plenty of free spell slots) to learn a high-level translocations spell for on-demand -tele? Or would the contam be bad enough to be not worth it?

Congrats! Did you really have to go without rF the whole game?

Yeah I did apport Lom Lobon's rune easily; but then I still tried to fight it, which may have been a mistake. But don't they harass you during the orb run if you get the rune without killing them?

Well the run that got 8 was the beginning of a 15-rine attempt. Three Pan runes in, though, I finked (having almost died to Lom Lobon, and again in holy Pan) and went for the Orb instead.

Any advice as to which which characters should do Pan first, versus the hells?

So are you advocating for a food clock as strict as Brogue's?

Except, I wouldn't want a clock for getting to Temple (since some players rarely go there anyway). Sounds like a reasonable approach otherwise. Though I suspect I'd still prefer effectively a goldified food clock (gives the player a better sense of whether s/he's taking too long).

I still haven't gotten (or even really tried for) a 15-rune win with anyone. Most I've gotten is 8. And yeah tomb with Qazlal sounds crazy.

HOFi of Qazlal was my first win, back in the day (0.15). Only 3 runes for me, though. Congrats!

Spriggan delver is an interesting image.

But there's no species for which they're a recommended background, correct? Any species for which you think they should be?

I think the devteam's idea was more that you race for D:1 as fast as possible. Don't know if that would have gone any better, though. I assume they're supposed to be very much a challenge background.

If there is such a commit, it postdates 0.25.0. (I asked mainly because it was possible that potions of stabbing had some other obscure non-blocked effect.)

Do potions of stabbing do anything at all for TSO followers? The game doesn't mark them as useless, but I can't imagine what they'd be good for (and the wiki says they're useless, for what it's worth).

Another problem with per-level clocks: assuming they're lenient enough to not constrain normal play (which seems to be what's wanted), you'll usually still have significant time left on the previous floor's clock. Whereas you won't know yet how long the current floor will take you. So it will be opt...

Are the special cases (for Abyss etc) even needed? The food clock didn't have them; you still needed to eat there, you sometimes found rations on the floor, and Abyss had a few monsters that left corpses. And there was no cap on how many rations you could carry.

I was assuming that the goal is only to prevent the most extreme forms. (I'm biased; my first win, Z:5 took me something like 10000 turns.)

Exploration might be a better workalike for the just-removed food system though, if one wants something just like that, only streamlined.

Well as Hellmonk says, though, there would still be a problem if (for whatever reason) a floor ended up in an effectively untraversable state. I suppose it might be ok if Zot Specters start spawning slowly, and the player is clearly warned.

Well one could make the per-level clock something huge (10000 turns, say, or even more). Hellcrawl's is 3000, right?

I guess my sense of the drain cost may be colored by my only ever paying it in early D when I discovered that the unIDed amulet I'm just put on was, in fact, Harm. Then the drain cost was noticeable; though not enough to make me not want to pay it immediately rather than keep Harm on. What character...

My default is to never wear Harm. But evidently some good players do.

Anyway, they're certainly less (or at least no more) popcorny on D:4 than they are later on.

Obviously, as I've never placed in the top 100 in any tournament the effect of the rules on me may not matter that much; but two thoughts: a) The new rules turned "should I play more?" into a meaningful strategic choice. (Had I stopped after I'd won 2 of my first 3 games, I'd have ranked d...

Self-replying as I solved it (I hope) and someone else might have the same problem --- it was my .crawlrc file. In my innocence, I'd thought I should specify a crawl_dir other than "random location in the build tree". This apparently broke things. I don't know what the intended use case fo...

Posting here as I assume I'm setting it up wrong. On Linux, I downloaded the tarball, untarred, cd'd in, then cd crawl-ref echo 0.25.0 > source/util/release_ver # to avoid dependence on git cd source make TILES=y rm -rf ~/saves # to get rid of any crap left over from a prior install ./crawl -builddb...

Congrats anyway, on getting farther than ever before. Looks like you're close.

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