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njvack wrote:I should probably do this with PMs, but the interface is terrible and I don't have much time at the moment, so:

TheDefiniteArticle and skjarl: Chill. Out. The comments are getting too personal.

I would not worry about it. He's on my foes list with duvessa now so we'll never speak again.

crate wrote:fwiw I think torment is a most excellent monster ability, though it is possibly overused in the parts of the game where it exists (and is underused in 3 rune games)

That's a fair assessment. I agree on all points.

Whoops. My bad. Sorry about the death. :'( Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-1880-g53e602b (webtiles) character file. 1328610 magipi the Conqueror (level 27, -55/169 (179) HPs) Began as a Tengu Conjurer on June 20, 2014. Was the Champion of Vehumet. Killed from afar by an orb of fire (78 dama...

Just tell them to comment out the crap they don't like and recompile. It's what I do. :D I just changed Beogh's gifting ability to let me do it as many times as I want to my orcs (and not just the named ones). I also agree that torment sucks and poison should be more viable in the late game. It's an...

Ah. I didn't realize that holy pan was considered a vault. Interesting. Thanks.

If you don't think damage is why anyone ever chooses unarmed combat, then by all means tell us with the real reason for choosing it. I can see 3 good reasons: 1. I am a troll 2. I am a felid 3. I am a draconian and want Dragon Form for the coolness factor Otherwise, I would not choose unarmed. Well...

If I find an unrandart like the Singing Sword in a Pandemonium level, but leave it behind, will it be able to generate again in my game?

If I clear the holy Pandemonium level, will it be able to generate again in my game?

we can see that UC eventually becomes stronger than +9 weapons, which clearly indicates that the damage is the reason why UC is appealing in the first place. What we can SEE is that UC NEVER becomes stronger than claymores. And takes way too much XP to become stronger than any other endgame quality...

All enchantment does is increase damage and UC is still a higher than a +9 one-hander of a good base type. Most brands also don't do anything else - though losing pain/vamp/disto can hurt. When I say UC is stronger damage-wise than one-handers, I was referring to enchanted and branded one-handers. ...

The delay for swapping shields prevents using an xbow/bow and then swapping to a shield and melee weapon for melee, which would get annoying very quickly. UC is much stronger than other one-handers damage-wise at high skill levels, so having a shield penalty is a balancing factor (but it isn't very...

I'm curious about the reason for two things: the large delay in removing a shield and the gimping of unarmed combat when combined with things like shields/heavy armor. The time delay for removing a shield makes missile weapon swapping practically impossible. The penalties for unarmed combat seem arb...

So who else thinks Legend http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089469/ is the best movie of all time? Also, Lost in Translation http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0335266/ so closely mirrored the month I spent hiking around Japan that it brought a metaphorical tear to my eye.

For the record, Beogh still sucks canal water after the early/mid game.

I know! I love that helmet. It makes my loins moist. I'd definitely ditch Beogh for extended. I'm thinking Zin because Hell is a pain in the nuts. Beogh overall is pretty crappy. He's a beast until about the midgame, but after that he turns into a pretty useless turd. If your orcs were stronger/toug...

You need 26 skill to make an executioner's axe effective. It's not that you can't kill things with 20 axe skill, it's just considerably worse than 26. At 20 your attack speed is 10 aut, at 26 it's 7 aut, so you're basically 30% hasted all the time passively with no contamination. It's really, reall...

Lightning Spire and Shadow Monsters are the two best lower level summons. I used both extensively even down to Zot:5. Also, Sar is right: you need some fighting (10ish for now) and at least min delay level on your dagger, which is a good weapon for a long while. If something better comes along (like...

My current Beoghite has seen his minions slaughtered on a near-genocidal level. I'd love to be able to give the orcs their full set of gear, but gift only works once per orc. Right now, they are so fragile that I'm considering them as a slight buff that happens from time to time (yay 6 newbie orcs i...

I just wish I could take out those damned spores with blowguns. :'( It doesn't work, though.

Incoming murder imo.

My axe skill is 20.6 in the dump. I intend to eventually cast everything I have memorized except simulacrum. I memorized it to unlock necromancy for the pain axe I was using. I recently acquired regeneration, so that'll make it quite a bit stronger than it would otherwise be.

You should have trained more fighting, man. It's not something you can ignore on casters if you don't want to grow ulcers every other fight. I like the high stealth on him. It dramatically improves survivability for a squishy character.

Playing around with some of the recent Beogh changes in trunk. I have a huge mass of followers still, but Spider whittled them down a good bit. I used some +4 leather for a long time and only recently moved to my current +5 plate. I have some spells memorized, but nothing is castable at the moment. ...

I agree that some changes needed to be made. I am not happy with the net results, though.

Cards ----- * New cards. - Fortitude, which gives Damage Shaving and a bonus to strength. - Storm, which can make shallow water, a tornado, or cause swiftness. - Cloud, which spawns dangerous clouds around the user and on hostiles. - Degeneration, which polymorphs nearby monsters into weaker ones. ...

If you're doing summoning, I find Shadow Monsters to be just about the best spell ever. It only requires 8 or 9 levels to be useful. Clever use of Lightning Spire also dramatically increases your killing power. Also, I'd strongly consider cross training long blades so you can hurt things you don't m...

I'm pretty disappointed in the changes myself. How does everyone else feel?

My High Elf currently sits at:

Short Blades: 12.9 with +2 aptitude. This gives him Long Blades: 5.8 effective skill, again with +2 aptitude. It's nice that it works on skill points instead of levels.

At a glance, it seems like the old GURPS system. If you have 10 points in short blades, you are buffed 2 points in Long Blades.

I don't understand. My dump was in code tags. Am I missing something? When I looked at this thread it wasn't. I edited your post to add them (as mod I can do that), originally they weren't there. This doesn't come across well on the Internet so I probably should take care to add that I'm not upset ...

I don't understand. My dump was in code tags. Am I missing something?

I took my first stab at a Xom character a few minutes ago. It ended with me looking like the dump below. Is it normal to have Xom mutate you so heavily or did I just have catastrophically bad luck? Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-1475-gfb6485e (tiles) character file. 3847 Tholi the Fighter ...

Does anyone else actually feel that buffs need a nerf? It is ok to give players powers that don't have some crappy side effect. The current system is fine. Nothing about it needs fixing.

I'd like to see spider form remove the cold/slow vulnerability on Draconians while it's in effect.

27 Stealth and 14.2 short blades while using the +9,+9 dagger of Twilight (weapon) {stab, +Rage +Inv}. It was a pretty rocking stab. I'm going to make out with my real girlfriend that isn't in Canada because she's real to celebrate. For real.

I just thought everyone should know I did this. *flex* If any of you want to touch the hem of my robe or have me sign your chest, I'll be around after I get the orb out of Zot. Thank you. *flex* Remember: Spirits are ALWAYS with you! Message History Press: ? - help, Dir - move target cursor, f - roy...

Looking to 15 rune this guy after doing a lesser victory on another. Love this race+class. Looking for general suggestions. I just found that lajatang, but I don't think it's worth switching over at this point. I plan to get some more points in long blades after I work on spells for a bit. I have no...

I got careless and it cost me. :/ Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-877-g2926600 (tiles) character file. 440500 Thorn the Unseen (level 23, -1/125 HPs) Began as a Vine Stalker Monk on May 5, 2014. Was a High Priest of Okawaru. Splashed by the royal jelly's acid (2 damage) ... on Level 6 of th...

I finished Spider without much trouble, which pleased me immensely. I'm wearing the +2 buckler of Impressiveness {rElec MR++ Acc-3} that I had in my inventory. I took it off to test a 2H weapon and forgot to put it back on for the dump. I took armor to 5.5 as suggested and now I am working on charms...

I posted an earlier version of this guy a week or two ago. I picked him back up recently, so here is the latest. It's my first real attempt with a demonspawn and it hasn't been too bad. The aptitudes are horrible, but overall having more HP than a typical caster has been very nice. I have a source o...

I can't tell by your version number, but are you running the new missile code? If so, it might be worth it to keep working on throwing. I'm curious about how effective it proves to be.

As an XL18 strong melee I almost died several times fighting these guys. As a caster, I'm thinking I'll probably avoid Spider until XL23+ from now on. Those moths are just too monstrously powerful for squishies to handle at earlier levels. It's too easy to get all your mana drained and you can't han...

As a Vine Stalker monk, the 3 I killed knocked my dick in the dirt before I took them down. I had to burn a lot of consumables on each one before I finally managed to grab the rune. I ran away before the others found me. They are definitely no joke.

Ugh. I can't believe this is the first time I've fought one without see invis. What a nightmare.

So, I'm stomping through the Spider's Nest from yesterday's build and I've fought something that's invisible, poisons me to lethal levels (even with rPoison), is tougher than dammit, and drains all my stats. I can't see invisible yet, so can someone tell me the name of the vicious bastard that keeps...

This guy is still going despite some close calls. I think something went buggy with Rupert since it still has a notification on Lair:7 even thought I cleared the entire map and searched the level twice but couldn't find him. I found a really nice buckler of protection, but I am loathe to give up my ...

Unfortunately it's quite hard to calculate in advance. My mod displayed possible range for everything, something like "Rolled 17 out of 3-25. Black bear decreases damage by 2, loses 15 HP, 6 HP remaining" and I stopped paying attention to it after some time. I'm not so much concerned abou...

Ok, I get it that spell damage formulas are complex. So present players with what they REALLY care about: damage ranges (heck, you could even calculate their average damage for them so they can eyeball it). That's not useless information. Right now, the graph in the OP's post is just as useless as a...

Thanks, Siegurt. I didn't realize it used standard wildcards/pattern matching syntax. Of course, if I had noticed that I could hit '?' in the game and have all this explained to me, I wouldn't feel like a dumbass right now. Ugh. Anyway, thanks for the info.

*faceplam* Protecting us from ourselves. I get enough of that from my government. I don't need more in my video games.

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