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OK, just learned -- spamming Sticks to Snakes at decent power takes down 8-headed hydras with minimal fuss, even with regular arrows. Now, gotta find me some more centaurs before doing Swamp.

OK, here's me -- a Demonspawn Transmuter of Ash with 14 UC: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0-a0-5780-g8f58253 character file. Beanie the Martial Artist (Demonspawn Transmuter) Turns: 38973, Time: 04:17:04 HP 102/102 AC 17 Str 10 Exp: 14/91147 (621), need: 19852 MP 29/29 EV 18 Int 24 God: Ashen...

It's not exactly true that aptitudes aren't meaningful except in relation to each other; they're meaningful in relation to the difficulty of monsters. I'm trying a DSTm after a long line of SETms, and it's definitely more difficult in a lot of ways -- I normally have Ice Form at Good by CL7 or so, a...

You don't need spoilers to win, but you need spoilers to know how all this stuff works. I doubt you knew what minimum delay was or that you should turn off weapon skill once you reach it. I doubt you understood the mechanics of weapon base damage and the difference between slaying and enchantment. ...

I've never seen what happens if His wrath hits home, though. Somewhere I saw a morgue of some poor level 27 Demonspawn who killed a Daeva in Abyss, and TSO one-shotted him for something like 260 damage. Dunno if he'll still dish that level of pain -- the wiki suggests that His wrath is somewhat les...

It's a sphinx simulacrum, which gets a beefy cold bonus to its attack. But then, normal sphinxes can smite, confuse, and paralyze you, so they're not much more fun. And are no pushovers in melee either. Back to hydras, hydra simulacra do *really* disgusting amounts of melee damage per-turn, and are ...

That was tried briefly a while ago (0.6 trunk) and it was very unfun. Basically, people would die on D:1 because they were getting poisoned by kobold corpses. Huh -- I'd imagine that distilling kobold corpses would be something you'd need to wait until CL2 or 3 for -- when you're strong enough to s...

pratamawirya wrote:O M G. Wayne, Margery (and her band), Frederick, and... MENNAS, on D:20.

Let's see everyone's hand who's torment immune!

...

Only you? Well, carry on, then. :twisted:

For more fun, a failed distillation could (sometimes?) yield a 1-square cloud of the evaporated potion, on your square, for a very short duration... distilling that corpse has a chance to mephitic or poison you. Thinking about this a little more, instead of a cloud, it could just sometimes give you...

Good points. How about: X% of the time, distillation simply eats the corpse and gives you no potion. Then you get the limited resource again. If X is big enough, it begins to make potion creation compete with chunk creation. For more fun, a failed distillation could (sometimes?) yield a 1-square clo...

KoboldLord wrote:How about we just remove Fulsome Distillation from the game entirely?

What if all distilled potions were unstable?

... or to fall down a shaft and get mobbed by Azrael's gang and Louise. Y'know, because that would be AWESOME.

That's "Yet Another Abyss Survival Post" because, honestly, I'm as proud of this escape as I ever have been of a win. Met Sonja, and foolishly decided to melee her. (WTF? I CAN EVAPORATE MEPHITIC CLOUDS. AND HAVE A WAND OF FIRE.) A quick 'Space distorts horribly around you' later, and I'm ...

Huh... I thought they had crap MR, which is why it's so easy to polymorph them into bigger problems.

Almost all Transmuter ghosts can spam Evaporate for Mephitic Clouds, have rPois, and have pretty good unarmed to boot. If you see one without rPois or clarity yourself, read that teleport scroll on turn 1.

In other news, I apologize for all the SETm ghosts on CDO :oops:

Finally got my SETm down to Lair. Find me a 7-headed hydra, which, it turns out, is dangerous for melee characters. Hit it with a wand of paralysis, but he woke up before my ice fists could take him down. Fortunately, I'd found a truly insane number of scrolls of fear, so I went to read one and... I...

I'm playing trunk on CDO, and for some reason, when I drop stuff, autopickup just grabs it again. Is this an option I've somehow turned on? This has never happened to me before.

galehar wrote:The ability is temporary, I'll remove it as soon as I allowed Ashenzarites to butcher while wielding cursed blunt weapon. So I won't bother fixing small details like that.

So we'll still need to carry an edged weapon to butcher?

And on the same line, the 'Butcher' ability doesn't count as an "I already have a butchering tool" trigger, so autopickup makes sure I have a least on butchering tool still.

You also get a free butcher ability, to make it a bit easier to experiment with the staff skill boost. This is temporary. The plan is to allow Ashenzarites to butcher with their knife even if holding a cursed blunt weapon. If you're going unarmed and use an uncursed butchering tool instead of the a...

Berserkitis can be a game breaker, just go ahead and flush your character right down the toilet. I was actually never able to cure it, but went on to win the character. You just can't melee anything... and most(?) species have some way to reskill for pure non-melee. An amulet of stasis or similar w...

Yeah, I read your YAVP about slinging your way through Tomb, and was impressed that it's possible, and glad I didn't try it ;-)

And while there's no rune in Elf, the end vault is at least as hard as (Snake|Swamp|Shoals):5.

Always left 'em on the floor before, but today, as a SeTm of Chei, I found myself with no good answer to a marauding Ice Beast and Snake. I still had lots of HP, but my few rounds of combat weren't going well. Scroll of Immolation took both the monsters down and only cost me 15-ish HP. Not a bad tra...

And this is actually why I never fly or levitate in the Abyss. It's too too too easy to get forgetful and take a swim.

Condolences from me as well. That's just awful luck.

Abyss is definitely safer than Vault:8 and probably safer than any the ends of Elf, Swamp or Shoals, especially for a spriggan with decent stealth -- just run, run, and run some more. I liked Punk, but needed rElec (and the -4 on that robe just wasn't doing it for me). Punk didn't seem to kill stuff...

Finally feel like I'm getting the hang of Crawl. Took a SpBe through Swamp, Snake, Abyss, and Zot for the win. All went smoothly at the start, and an early Amulet of Faith got the gifts flowing early, even with periodic use of Brothers in Arms and Trog's Hand. When in doubt, a berserking Iron Troll ...

Thanks, all. I've got a ring with cTele and another with sustain, so I'm not teleporting randomly or decaying away, which is nice. I've also got Punk and a nice stash of +8 steel sling bullets, so I can actually deal a lot of damage without putting myself at risk for zerking. My Helix cards were eag...

With my current character (a level 19 SpBe), I quaff-ID'd potions of mutation a long time ago, and got shoutitis and some scales. Since then, I've been drinking every potion of mutation I come across, in the hope that it'll make things better. Now I have shoutitis 2, deterioration 1, berserkitis 1, ...

If a monster is asleep while you're invisible, you have only a very tiny chance of waking it up, unless you do something that makes a lot of noise like shouting or casting a loud spell. Even if your stealth is terrible. ... The invisibility mechanics are pretty strange. That is strange. If they're ...

If you're tough enough, you can kill them with berserking, even if you're using a non-flaming bladed weapon. Zerking a hydra with a non-flaming bladed weapon is definitely not a beginner tactic... the line between standing over a dead 12-headed hydra and having a 12-headed hydra stand over a slowed...

In an earlier thread, I got good Mara advice, and he's not necessarily as scary as he seems. rF up, wield a non-weapon (the bread ration is an amusing option), and after he clones you, switch to your weapon, buff, and thrash. Your clone can't switch weapons or buff itself. Healing cures mislead, in ...

Definitely Slime. >ducks< Seriously, though -- try Shoals, especially if you've got a good source of levitation or flight. Take it slow. The runes aren't going anywhere, though -- no point in going for branch ends before you're ready; you can probably clear a bit more of Vaults and the beginning of ...

Congrats! Fwiffo always was my very favorite coward.

OK -- my dirty secret: probably my favorite thing in Crawl is finding new things, especially randarts. I just want to know: what properties are possessed by this warped hammer, this distressingly-furry plate mail, this smoking amulet? I'll happily equip things I know full-well I'll never use, just t...

Just wondering: is there any use for the Tome of Destruction? I usually find a couple per game, and for the life of me, I can't find any way to make it useful. Trog won't even burn it for me.

The learndb is... not optimistic about them. Am I missing something?

Mimics are one of the least-amusing monsters in the game, to me. They're annoying (Oh hey, gold! No, wait, I'm poisoned.) and encourage me to fling rocks at random items and features that look suspicious. Then I get to decide if I want to kill 'em (and they hit fairly hard for where they start appea...

Don't worry, this guy could win all right. After getting three runes and clearing Elf and Crypt like you did, Zot could be carefully cleared. This guy was on the verge of being able to clear Zot recklessly*. Slime is definitely harder than Zot, with the exception of the Orb chamber -- and even that...

I've tried iTerm as well, and the issue seems to be with the dark grey color. It doesn't just affect messages, but the portion of the map that is out of LOS, deactivated skills on the skill page, some items... On a whim, I tried OS X's xterm, which seems to work fine. So it seems to be a problem wi...

Hi all, I'm trying to delve into the world of online play on OS X. Connecting to cdo is going just fine; however, some of the messages are printing as black on black, which makes gameplay hard. I've tried both the standard terminal and iTerm; both seem to do the same thing. Any pointers for OS Xers ...

Is fireball > firestorm a good training path? I think that with the staff of fire, fireball and poison cloud I'll be killing elves so fast that Vehumet will take care of my MP refilling, no? If there's a chokepoint at the start of the vault, poisonous cloud alone will deal enough damage to kill pre...

Thanks for the advice. I'm still don't have a terribly good feeling for what the end branches are like; this is only my second time to Zot. In my first win (a MfCr), I dove to the bottom of Gehenna, grabbed the rune, and though "What's the big deal with these Hells?" Then, I almost got was...

Finally, a successful nuker. In the past, I'd always had problems running out of killing power somewhere near the bottom of Lair; this time, I was extra careful and took it easy. Didn't manage to find Bolt of Fire until somewhere around the middle of Elf, so Bolt of Magma was a decent substitute. Th...

Let it end in Hellfire, indeed! My DEWz has cleared the orb chamber (first time I've done that with a caster -- thanks for the advice!) and now I'm looking for "what now?" advice. Here's my chardump: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.7.1-1-g7ce9b19 character file. Mandalf the Annihilator ...

Fabulous idea. I officially need to study up on inscription.

Thanks. It is so on.

Hi all, So, I've gotten my DEWz all the way to level 27 and have cleared Zot:1-4. (Turns out: Fire Storm is worth the wait. So fun.) But! My last act on Zot:4 was to find a Zot trap that's given me Berserkitis. Boo. But hey, at least I can also breathe fire now :P My thought is: an unexpected 'zerk ...

I was under the impression that Mislead is purely cosmetic.

Just got my first spellcaster to Elf:7. Took the vault by: ⋅ Spamming poisonous cloud on the entry corridor ⋅ Shouting for attention ⋅ Leaving, standing, on the upstairs, and Feeling More Experienced as pretty much everyone in the vault walked into the poisonous clou...

Ugh. Being exhausted around Mara and your clone... bad news. Saving the 'zerk for escape might be a good plan -- Mara seems like a good target for that Wand of Cold you've been saving. Thinking about him more, I realized: you want to be able to kill Mara, but since the ghost isn't permanent, you jus...

Curio wrote:For my excuse - it was 3 in the morning and I was very sleepy Should have gone to sleep instead of going to slime pits

This is a crawl lesson I keep re-learning over and over :-)

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