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I do not mind the current state of dodge/armour boost. Boosting both would be more useful sometimes, I agree, but Ash is strong enough now. Boosting dodging does help a character in mottled dragon armour, and boosting armour does help a minotaur in plate mail. Boosting all three skills but with a li...

If the current system stays, it would be really really nice if Ash would gain a "character planning" feature: to "try out" equipment without really equipping them. I imagine a screen where you freely can: - switch between any equipment you have or you stand on, - change of the eq...

You are right - I think that what I do not really like the connection of equipment with divination. This is what seems arbitrary to me, and I think this does not play that well with crawl's system. This is mostly flavour and some minor inconveniencies - so I guess it's not too much to debate about. ...

One more addition to the curse minigame: with my proposal there will be similar situations. If you join the god early, you will be unable to equip the ring or armour you find the next corner. You need to decide if you want to burn a remove curse scroll on a newly found item every time - even if you ...

Also, a few builds getting less out of the god is really not a problem, what annoys me it's that it seems so arbitrary (what does unarmed combat has to do with curses or divination anyway?). It's quite possible to play a transmuter with Ashenzari (I did that), just it's a little annoying. If permane...

Galefury: I mentioned this drawback, but in my opinion these kind of choices were almost never interesting to me. Usualy I need to decide if I want to uncurse my weapon slot and if I want to uncurse one of my ring slots. Of course this depens on the character/equipment available, but for an actual c...

Ash is my favorite god. I'd like to hear the opinion of more experienced players/devs of this alternative of the current curse mechanic. I know that there were some similar proposals, but I could not find any complete one. Proposal: - when you join Ash, you will became cursed ("share her divine...

Unfortunately I played late and died in one of the Hells - too much tormenting monster appeared suddenly and I did not escaped quickly enough (I should have used step from time). I killed all the great pandemonium lords with dragon form tough. It was not very hard, but I really should just go past M...

Well, my DrTm of Ash simply binded the first halberd I found. This means it's realy easy to bind two slots (unlike when you realy want to use a weapon). It's a little awkward, yes, but terribly so - I used my forms in almost every combat anyway. You still can kill a rat with an unskilled halberd.

Well, that's why I decided to not abandon her. :-)

I have cleared Zot, the Crypt, and gathered the abyssal rune. What to do in preparation for Pan, Hells and the Tomb? I plan to do Pan first - maybe that's the easiest with this char? Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11.0 (console) character file. sanka the Heavyweight Champion (Ogre Hunter) Turns:...

I have cleared Elves and Slime. The royal jelly died in three hits. Unfortunately I got some bad mutations due to tactical errors. Skill plan: UC to max, then improve spell success and learn deflect missiles, then fighting and dodging to max (with manuals). Big question is: should I abandon chei now...

Progressed a little. I rutinely use dragon form now - the damage is very good. Controlled blink helps a lot with movement, deflect/repel missile helps with defense. Question is: what to do next? Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11.0 (console) character file. sanka the Wrestler (Ogre Hunter) Turns:...

The very good side of dragon form is that it does not hinder spellcasting. With chei and controlled blink this is quite important. Currently (for my char) in dragon from vs balde hands: +5 AC -8 EV bigger damage much better spellcasting Later the AC gain won't be as good, or I even may lose some. Th...

The moment I choosed chei was the moment I decided I will not develop this character "optimally", but rather try out some strange things. The reason for UC and dragon form instead of GSC was that I wanted to try out how awful it is with high stats. UC and especialy transmutation damage is ...

EDIT: see last post. I did not expected this "suboptimal" character to advance that far, and I'd like to ask some advice for the later game. I hope somebody has some ideas how to continue efficiently from now. Some remarks: * Large rocks with high strength are very strong. Even with very l...

Why is the contamination is handled over time? Why not give it all when casting the spell? Currently it's very hard to determine if casting a spell would give you yellow glow or not, and thus the game gives no warning (prompt) for these dangerous acts, which is not the way crawl usualy handles these...

<Sequell> 9028. cashybrid the Eviscerator (L22 FeBe), worshipper of Trog, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-04-05, with 1295305 points after 91333 turns and 1:05:11. (Not to take away from Elynae's achievement in the least, but cashybrid is a perfectly legit win). I tought it used a bot. At ...

Yes: there are already too many.

He ment that it's called purple draconian breath now in the game.

Well, if you fear that early players will starve, give them two rations instead of one. Or generate more rats. I rarely eat brown chunks in the early game (with non trolls-ghouls-kobolds), and I have only starved with spriggans. I do not think this matters, really. Early game is short, but nausea wi...

My short proposal for High elves: make them good at hybrid like fighters that use no direct offensive spells. A little bit reverse Tengu in a sense. fighting: 0, all weapons types +1, staves/UC : -1. all ranged weapon types: +1 spellcasting: 0. charms: +3,translocations+3,hexes:+3 conjurations, summ...

Once I had an Ogre, training maces, who found a +7/+7 triple sword (fire, rC+,rF+, MR) in lair. I already had a giant spiked club and m&f skill about 16. What would you do: would you switch? (Of course GSC has 2 more base damage...). I'm not sure if good players would switch to long blades - I d...

Turgon wrote:Advantages Trog: anti-magic weapons, MR and regeneration on demand

Uhm, have you tried brother in arms?

Well, I played late and as usual I did not reach the extended end game this time. I fell down a shaft into a draconian/dragon vault. I killed many tough, and the death would be very easy to avoid. Next time maybe :-)

Next time do not fight: step back, and go around the zombie. Rush to the exit as quick as possible. It was quite bad luck tough.

I usually found that improving spell schools, especialy conjurations is better, at least if you have found some food early on. Less miscast+better power means much less casting, so much less food . I usualy only focus on spellcasting if I do not find any food on the first two/three level or when I a...

I will try it, but it won't tell me if investing in ice and shields worth it :-)

It may be very week at 0 skills and strong enough at 10-10 skill. But thanks anyway :-)

Thanks for the advice! Couple of small questions then: - is condensation shield worth it, or training two skills for a spell that creates a shield which only able to block a few attacks and dissappear with fire attacks not worth the xp? It's compatible with TSO's divine shield at least. - You said t...

I'd like to ask some strategic advice as how to continue if I'd like to progress to the extended end game. I feel that this character has been very lucky with rings, which is a good thing in dragon form. Originally I was dissapointed that I got yellow, because it seemed boring, but I got used to it....

I myself like these things that "humans have 0 apt for everything". Of course you do not even need a meter stick, but it looks nice.

Also it would not suggest newbies ideas like "humans are below average at spellcasting, so maybe I choose fighter instead of wizard".

I found it more effective to just kil hydras with large rocks or wands. Or simply evade them. Training an other weapon is a lot of xp early on wasted for only one monster, and a hydra can be strong without regrowing heads.

Anyway, you're not pushing any real argument. You'e just saying that you're right and you know better over and over. You're not giving any data and your testing methodology is subjective and egocentric. I think that snow's style has made you misjudge his arguments. I try to rephrase it for you: He ...

Or you can buff human spellcasting to 0 (previous +1). Humans are not weak, but this would not buff them to extremes, and few players play them anyway.

Or even better, you simply can wear a good plate armor, and have high AC AND EV at the same time and it's even easier to cast spells. See cerebovsquire's morgues: all of them wear plate armour. Plate is a really good choice if it has a useful resistance.

With 21 in polearms I would drop the shield and the trident and switch to a glavie (and keep training it till 26 skill). A glavie is a very good weapon. The lajatang is nice but not something I would change, and it does not have reaching, and has worse damage than a glavie. Reaching is really good f...

The death yaks are a bigger threat than black mambas or whatever other snake/poison thing. I'd just like to point out that death yaks are normal speed melee monsters, so they should not be very dangerous to most characters. Spiny frogs and black mambas are more dangerous. Poison resistance is still...

I think CAO is down till September. Try CDO.

I've had an idea floating around for a while of a "soft summoning cap" - given summons of a specific type (demons would be one broad category; other categories could be established around other spells), the chance of a successful cast of the spell actually summoning a create falls off wit...

I'd really like this feature. There are many times where autotravel is not smart enough for you.

I guess if somebody implements it it will be a pure improvement, since it's not necessary to use or even be aware of it's existence.

Also, hydras are very stong in water. Haste makes them much more powerful than hasting ugly things. I had both (summon ugly things and hydra) memorized with a summoner, and I used hydras a lot. If summon caps will be introduced they will be even better (compared to other summons). Also the no attack...

A merfolk abyssal knight still can meet with smoke demons. Or hellions. And the deep water can disappear any time while walls emerge next to you.

Hunger is not really an issue for most characters. Really. You can rest with them just as well every time you are injured if you wish.

Several vulnerabilities combined with the lack of the help of potions like heal wound or speed makes them really hard.

I do not think that strength limit works that well in this game - I don't really like this on armours.

There's the choice that if you wan't to spend xp on shields skill or something else. Shields give penalty on spell success.

Using a shield when you've made the choice to use a weapon that is paired with a shield is a consequence, not an additional choice. With magical staves it sounds true, but stabbing and UC intuitively does not imply shield usage to me. IRL you won't carry a shield when you try to stab someone, and I...

Lajatangs are not bad weapons - you should look for them. They use the staves skill. The good side is that they only need 14 skill (which you want with them as soon as possible) to reach minimum delay, and this gives you a lot of xp which you should spend in dodge, armour, fighting, and invocations....

I trust crate and mikee about using a buckler/shield with UC and staves are not always optimal. But this just gives more argument to my proposal to buff large shields I think: in the eyes of good players shields are even weaker than I would think. Nerfing any combination with buffed large shields ma...

I think with strong characters it is possible to gain some levels in the abyss, and then go to level 1. But I do not think this is bad, because it has absolutely no benefit: it is much more safe for those characters to simply go to the dungeon immediately, and gain the same levels in the very low ri...

Even if a little (more) spoilery, I like the early guardian proposal better. And it can become much less spoilery if every mutation has a level limit where the first level of it can pop up (maybe determined primarily with tier level). With some playing you will get a feeling which can happen when. W...

palin wrote:This is very nice, except a summoner is this way very penalized on one of his strength: early oklobs. But maybe this is not a problem.

I do not think oklobs can attack you trough your summons. Not that oklobs are that hard for non summoners.

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