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The current Chei is bad, but at least he has one good thing going: He is rather simple design-wise, and easy to understand. You get slower, you get stronger. Getting slower is bad, but getting stronger MIGHT be enough to patch that hole.

This simplicity is good.

godzilla wrote:I like all the smileys

Me too, but we don't need redundant features....

So I read a lot about strategies like scumming Lair as Mu for thousands of turns, or digging killholes every floor etc, and it seems like a strange way to have fun to me... So I wonder if/how many people actually do that ! Are there any on the forum ? Who are they ? You must be using a strange defi...

You are talking about the why of the infinite digging mechanic being abusable , and I am talking about the why of the infinite digging mechanic is even considered to be abused at all (which is rooted in Fo being a sucky race; as far as I know, in reality people don't even grind with Mu unless it's ...

Jihad is very, very powerful, so definitely pump up long blades ASAP. And don't worry about your aptitude; you can always activate Heroism when you want to kill dudes faster with Jihad.

This sounds like a very good idea, but yeah, it's potentially problematic like duvessa said.

If you were to perhaps read some of the many responses to this thread and the original one, you would in fact notice a large number of explanations of things such as: "why this mechanic is problematic at all" (this one is explained extremely well in the very first post of the original thr...

Thanks for informing me that you know what I think better than I do, that sure cleared things up. This sarcasm got me confused for a while.... Anyway, I wasn't saying that eliminating tedious aspects of the game was bad, but people around here might be doing it for the wrong reason. The fact that y...

Grimm wrote:I was twelve when I started playing, and due to the stress within six months I had become 68.

So you're 68?

Kind of weird this got split from the original thread and landed on Dungeon Crawling Advice. But, eh.... @One-Eyed Jack: People play games because games are fun. If winning is fun, then okay, we'll try to win. If not, well... why bother? (Guys, please note that I'm not actually against the removal ...

khalil wrote:
Grimm wrote:Yeah that happens occasionally. No idea why.

I retroactively intend this 667 to signal the end of Taven idiocy and inaugurate a new era of good feelings. GO!

I'm still here, so the first bit doesn't seem to have worked.

You seem to be more self-aware than I expected...

duvessa wrote:The stabbing bonus works with launchers, but not for firing them; you have to perform a melee attack with the launcher to stab. This stab uses Fighting instead of a weapon skill.

Really weird, but good to know.

Kind of weird this got split from the original thread and landed on Dungeon Crawling Advice. But, eh.... @One-Eyed Jack: People play games because games are fun. If winning is fun, then okay, we'll try to win. If not, well... why bother? (Guys, please note that I'm not actually against the removal o...

Also, people don't just do boring stuff like that. There's always a reason. The reason people do boring stuff in video games is because it is the optimal strategy. And why is it the optimal strategy at the first place? Why design a race in such a way that they aren't really fun to play without reso...

Grimm wrote:It was KL's return post.

Makes all the sense in the world.

Grimm wrote:In fact you can click the number and see that for yourself.

Yeah, I just realized that.

Confidence Interval wrote:Like all of us he'll sooner or later hit "thank" when he meant to hit "quote2. He'll just be more annoyed by it than we are.

Grimm, what kind of awesome post deserves your 667th thank?

Instead of thinking about an obscure (though not unrealistic) scenario where the player bores himself to death by digging a lot of killholes, we should instead think about WHY the player would want to do that. The answer is kind of obvious, right? Because Fo is rather WEAK, even after their HP and ...

dck wrote:Uh, their xp apt was nerfed, not buffed.

What? I thought they were changed to have human's xp apt. Was it reverted or something?

Yeah, as if the loot in the minotaur's room would be way inferior...

Instead of thinking about an obscure (though not unrealistic) scenario where the player bores himself to death by digging a lot of killholes, we should instead think about WHY the player would want to do that. The answer is kind of obvious, right? Because Fo is rather WEAK, even after their HP and x...

Bloax wrote:?sane

scrolls to cure confusion?

I think CI once said he was 12. Could he be the youngest around here?

If you decide to use sarcasm, don't point it out right after you say whatever sarcastic thing you were planning to say - it wrecks your image, spoils the joke and it even looks ugly! Make me read a triple-negative such as that and I'll gladly send you packing with your license to kill shredded unti...

The trick is not to take the game too seriously.

You went full melee, man. That's the problem. Never go full melee!

@Magipi:
Please ask crate himself in the Fo thread.

@wizzzargh:
If you can, please give the link to the post/thread too. (This can be hard or annoying, if the post has been thanked for, since the link to that post (at the top-right) can't be seen anymore, duh.)

I just realized that there're posts that I really liked, that helped me understand cool things or broadened my horizon as a player. I thought, why not collect them all in one place? Let's start with two recent posts from two of our beloved bluenames. https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?p=1...

Psiweapon wrote:Please tell me that the siren will at least TRY to kill him rather than simply let him starve, that'd be too silly.

Sirens' annoying gimmick is annoying

But why don't you use your bow? Or crossbow? Or blowgun? Or javelin? Or wands? Or whatever, man.

nice drawings!

bcadren wrote:Edit: It was...some asshole moved it.

Yeah, why was this moved? This thread hasn't even degenerated into a "your idea sucks" mess....

EDIT: Oh hey I totally thought this was a GDD thread.

welcome to hell...

@Psiweapon: Dude, if this thread annoys you, then just ignore everything in it except this post by crate: My big thing about Fo digging is this: Let's imagine that formicids are not currently in crawl. Someone proposes a race with permanent stasis, and in exchange you can self-shaft to act as a sort...

Hirsch I wrote:shut up, the game is difficult enough as it is.

whippersnapper!

but on the bright side, it takes only a few seconds to start a new character...

Hirsch I wrote:he wont. I guarantee.

what makes you so sure? wait, what did you...

Hirsch I wrote:(disclaimer: this is not aimed to anyone.)

good, 'cause we don't want "him" to come here ever again...

well what do you expect, this is a "small town"

The titles-according-to-number-of-posts thing backfired

shut up, Eringya's Employee

You guys (even and into) kind of miss the real point of this thread. But it's understandable, considering we're in CYC and all. I was complimenting and into, yes, but the main point of the thread was to show what kind of post you should make when you want to: 1. criticize someone deeply; 2. keep bei...

THANK OVERKILL :shock:

Let's talk about the dudes who work hard to make our beloved Tavern a civilized and beautiful place. https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?p=160298#p160298 From the top... General Point: Even when technically correct, largely irrelevant information that is given equal weight with important s...

viewtopic.php?p=159953#p159953

His opinions sound all legit, but one might wonder just who exactly did he try to help by being so caustic?

Hirsch I wrote:Hirsch II and someone else.

oh man, why do you bring up his name

Zooty wrote:
Deep Dwarf Fighter wrote:The government executes their own poeple with live rounds.

Would you rather have them execute people with blanks?

now we're talking... please continue

what's with CYC and proposals, lately?

DracheReborn wrote:Fighters start with potion of might now

whaaaat...?

You're bound to lose the argument when you start comparing Crawl to mainstream games. It's a valuable lesson, though.

CPA gives +4 more AC, and doesn't hinder spellcasting as much as GDA. rF+ and rC+ are nice, but you can get them from rings, potions, etc. Then there are wands so good that even the game will list them in yellow text in your inventory: invisibility I don't think invisibility wands are ever yellowed.

TheDefiniteArticle wrote:why in the world would you

why not? (you think the OP would start this thread if he knew his idea was bad?)

To OP: Many players (lately, this includes me) consider submerge mechanics as quite annoying, since they slow the game down.

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