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http://whvvugt.home.xs4all.nl/Archives_TCCMB/Limericks/Structure.html is a useful guide to limerick scansion.

Yred would make this part of the game more survivable, but precludes statue form down the road and costs a couple of levels (and this HP feels crucial deeper in, especially if guardian spirit never shows up). I did it with Yred. https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=24097 It prec...

Some more limericks are here: Divine Limericks . These are of, ah, variable quality* but I liked "You took Chei and I'd like to ask why" and I absolutely laughed like a drain at: Tab tab tab tab tab tab tab tab Tab tab tab tab tab tab tab tab o o o o o o o o o o Tab tab tab tab tab tab ta...

If things take a turn for the worse,
You might try a scroll - remove curse!
To use on this date, or
To save it for later,
It sure beats a ride in a hearse.

What 4 things did you use Grand Finale on? A vampire mage and three draconians. Grand Finale was not so attractive on this character as it would be on a melee Usk worshipper - not only did I have plenty of ways of killing things at range but usually I could spend the 8 mana on killing the thing wit...

Airwolf wrote:I would say congrats, but it doesn't count since you didn't open that door vault. Sorry.

Aw, man! Caught again. I'll know next time. :-)

dolemite99 wrote:Oops, sorry. Haiku 101 is down the hall. I’ll just let myself out.

Moonlight on the snow
Glinting off a silver shield
You feel lucky --More--

I'm afraid I'm even worse at haiku.

We are the demons of Cocytus,
By digging this wall you unblocked us,
We quickly rushed out,
All keen for a bout,
And now with a mace you have socked us.

There once was a crawler named Clare,
Who takes all their fighters to Lair;
The series of splats,
To bullfrogs and rats,
Are more than the server can bear.

I'm surprised no-one's told me to stop yet (except Clare IRL).

I picked up the Shield of the Gong,
When struck it emits a great BONG,
My god's noisy clouds,
Bring monsters in crowds,
And my sword will join in with a song!

There once was a kitty, Natasha; An @ had a longing to bash her. Our foolish young friend, Soon met a bad end - Natasha's flesh-rending g-nasher. There once was a orc named Saint Roka Beset by a murderous joker; If his mighty smite, Can't make things all right, He uses his trident to poke her. There...

https://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/damerell/morgue-damerell-20180311-202824.txt Inevitably, my happy proclamation after my last win that I'm "fairly knocking these out" meant 3 months and 40 dead DEFEs to get one home. Since I'm still trying not to repeat a god, that ruled out the obvi...

stoneychips wrote: I can sympathize with the OP in feeling that you tend to 'need' superb drops to feel really safe later in the game.

Except the OP doesn't say that; the OP says you need superb drops to win, or even to get to 2-3 runes. You might need more stuff to go extended, but of course you _get_ more stuff...

GrumpD wrote:Has anyone else encountered this? I've done my best to ensure all five levels of Depths are fully explored, and using ctrl-f for the portal yields nothing.

Not to be Captain Obvious, but checked all Depths levels for all 3 sets of stairs?

That's not a guide, then. That's a way to vent frustration over personal opinions regarding game balance. If you're going to write a guide, write a guide. If you're going to armchair game balance, armchair game balance. Don't do one and dress it up like the other, because that helps nobody. I am ap...

To mitigate the effect of shafting, always dive to D:15 as quickly as possible and work back up. Then you will only ever be shafted into a fully explored level.

Coo, I'm fairly knocking these out. This has confused my system, however - I was due a heavy-armour monster-whacker, but does a character that never wears more than leather really qualify? http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/damerell/morgue-damerell-20171218-035354.txt 1960090 damerell the Intangib...

[Well done. That being said, if you have warlords with an rF+ armor on, they actually are pretty capable of surviving zot. Usually not too many of them, but I've had one warlord survive all of zot including the orb chamber and come out with me. So did I, and they were an asset; they flung themself ...

If it's ON — piety goes into gift timeout. If it's OFF — piety goes into the * It would be an awkward fit with the proposal (which I think there's a pull request in for) that Zin cures your muts - good or bad - on the gift timeout. The idea there is definitely that you can't use Zin, who hates muts...

So after doing a heavy armour monster-whacker, I have to do something trickier, and next on the list was octopode. http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/damerell/morgue-damerell-20171211-041855.txt 1465958 damerell the Slayer (level 27, 195/195 HPs) Began as an Octopode Gladiator on Dec 6, 2017. Was ...

I didn't use my army in Zot, figured I would be too distracted with keeping them alive. I don't want to seem overly cold-blooded, but keeping them alive for what? When I did Beogh I fed 'em into the Zot furnace; every orc that dies stopping a bolt of fire dies for a glorious cause, to wit, causing ...

damerell wrote:Felids can boost Okawaru piety gain by dying as often as possible to reduce their own XL relative to the monsters' HD.

Oh, and; play felids to minimise the amount of damage you take from torment. You can even use the above technique to further reduce torment damage!

http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/damerell/morgue-damerell-20171126-011236.txt 1517769 damerell the Conqueror (level 27, 214/249 HPs) Began as a Formicid Fighter on Nov 15, 2017. Was the Champion of Ru. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on Nov 26, 2017! The game lasted 14:27:51 (99829 turns)....

VeryAngryFelid wrote:I know this thread title. I meant that this might be an interesting idea for real crawl and tried to justify how it could be implemented.

Something very like it works quite well in POWDER, albeit without the suicide bombers.

Felids can boost Okawaru piety gain by dying as often as possible to reduce their own XL relative to the monsters' HD.

http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/damerell/morgue-damerell-20171101-213123.txt 1319316 damerell the Demonologist (level 27, 229/235 HPs) Began as a Barachi Summoner on Oct 8, 2017. Was a High Priest of Sif Muna. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on Nov 1, 2017! The game lasted 21:40:38 (12483...

Summon Hydra has a "durationuration"; Shroud of Golubria's maximum spellpower is 200, not 50. (Editing this just in case the guide is ever revised.)

Shtopit wrote:http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Trishula it says that trishula never occur on their own, but Mennas can carry one.

Fixed, and fixing up TSO while I'm at it.

Thx! Very interesting info. Always was puting all into Dex for Stabbers and Op. While for Op this still can be ok cause no armor for stabbers gonna try pumping Str next time. Hm, well. Stabbing is another special case, I'm afraid. Dexterity gives a bonus to stab chance and damage both directly and ...

What about for defenses on something that doesn't wear armor like Dr? I did touch on that in the final paragraph, but I agree it's not quite settled. It's a trickier one to address because there's wide variety in how much AC from accessories, Dodging skill, and SH an unarmoured character might have...

These days the generally accepted opinion seems to be that strength is always preferable to dexterity. I was wondering how true that was and planned to do some testing to look into it. tl;dr: it was so clearly true that I stopped before doing anything extensive, so this is just a summary of how far ...

Besides, what exactly is the problem with monsters spawning over time, which needed to be fixed? Indefinite XP harvesting (especially with some hypothetical future removal of food). As pointed out below by VAF (and elsewhere), this can easily be fixed by making the spawns durable summons, which yie...

VeryAngryFelid wrote:Have devs provided any arguments why those spawns cannot be replaced with summons who give no xp/items/piety/food?

That's what I'm in favour of - it would solve the problem of waiting forever on the stairs being discussed elsethread.

Besides, what exactly is the problem with monsters spawning over time, which needed to be fixed? Indefinite XP harvesting (especially with some hypothetical future removal of food). It seems to me that diminishing the XP value of spawns (to zero at the current OOD-clock-time) would also eliminate t...

A while ago Simon Tatham (the PuTTY author) wrote IPBT https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/ipbt/ , a Unix tool for better playback of ttyrecs - it can pause, rewind, search, compress very long pauses in play, etc. This was very jolly for NetHack players, but it had no Unicode support, which...

Obvious in context, but I think meph cloud means to say that monsters with HD >=21 have a 49 in 50 chance to resist confusion?

Crikey. How on earth did you survive Tomb?

http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/damerell/morgue-damerell-20170829-091537.txt 2938600 damerell the Invulnerable (level 27, 245/245 HPs) Began as a Minotaur Fighter on Aug 26, 2017. Was a High Priest of Hepliaklqana. Escaped with the Orb ... and 5 runes on Aug 29, 2017! The game lasted 12:36:32 ...

Pleeeeeeeease just make the game end when you leave Zot:5 with the Orb, and get rid of the orbrun mechanics. I'm not saying that's a bad idea but it is perhaps of wider scope than what I propose, which is just to eliminate a bit of tedious routine which I realise now it would probably be best and b...

It struck me just now that before getting the Orb one should use all up hatches in DUZ so that autotravel can use them to shorten the orbrun. This is optimal, has no challenge, and boring. I suggest that touching the Orb should explore all hatches the character has seen every square in LOS of [1] to...

Do you mean that you would like to go to the upstairs to rest, but not necessarily the closest upstairs, but the one that is part of the shortest route to D:0? You could add a runrest_stop_message to stop when you arrive at the upstairs. Then you could just autotravel to D:0 and you would stop at e...

http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/damerell/morgue-damerell-20170824-061802.txt 1480376 damerell the Ruinous (level 27, 156/176 HPs) Began as a Gargoyle Conjurer on Aug 11, 2017. Was the Champion of Vehumet. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on Aug 24, 2017! The game lasted 17:19:15 (111098 tu...

chequers wrote:Haven't only two attributes would be worse than having a marginally useful third. I once attempted to create a statfree version of DCSS but it's not easy.

Perhaps it would be easier just to improve Dex a bit - if there's a real issue here.

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I used this as a Yred follower; it is very useful to be able to find out quickly that reinforcements are definitely available.

http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/damerell/morgue-damerell-20170809-163049.txt 1650245 damerell the Axe Maniac (level 27, 269/269 HPs) Began as a Hill Orc Gladiator on Aug 7, 2017. Was the Champion of Beogh. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on Aug 9, 2017! The game lasted 09:38:07 (69821 tur...

Good write up! Thank you, although I assume by "good" you mean "hopelessly verbose". :-) congrads. I had my first (and only) Fe with with FeCj*dith. I took Cj because magic dart doesn't miss and it leaves more flexability on what element to add. I ended up adding necro from bolt...

Maybe I just got mediocre rolls? I didn't use it too often and when I did, it killed the weaker stuff and seemed to leave the tougher ones at lowish health but not dead. Oh, indeed, but after all you can do it again (or if not you have significantly simplified the process of murdering them by other...

Wasn't too impressed with Disaster even at ~20 Invoc. Odd - when I did CeQaz I found Disaster Area was brilliant, especially on areas like V:5 with lots of fairly dangerous stuff not one or two very dangerous beasties. I almost was wondering if with an amulet of faith you could get your piety back ...

http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/damerell/morgue-damerell-20170804-005525.txt 1590846 damerell the Slayer (level 23, 108/108 HPs) Began as a Felid Fighter on July 28, 2017. Was the Champion of Yredelemnul. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on Aug 4, 2017! The game lasted 10:51:38 (64398 turn...

Hide ghosts behind runed doors (could even be black doors that are "the entrance to a murder" or something flavorful )that don't have tele traps and include the monster that killed them, and only if the killing monster could be generated normally on that floor (not OOD or orbrun). This is...

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