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Aren't you all whitewashing the glorious past here? A pack of wights encountered in a tight corner could drain your skills in no time at all, and quite early in the game at that. For a spellcaster that would mean to not be able to cast any spells, or only level 1 spells without power. Usually, that ...

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I don't understand you. Nebukadnezar did not beat the Hells in one go with his Ignis gargoyle, and he complained about a lot of tedium. So the new system is punishing him/her for doing something that shouldn't be done: enter the hells with a character that doesn't belong there. The very fact that th...

Fair enough - I wouldn't be against your proposed changes. Nebbu would still try to go in there with Fedhas or Ignis and beat everything to death with an unenchanted club, because he can. This is the problem you don't see: people like Nebbu are so good at the game that they can try the most outrageo...

I agree. Before the change, drain was for me one of the most-feared effects, one that could kill me because I ended up without the ability to win a non-trivial fight. I'm glad that we went away from that. But with the new drain, I don't even wear rN+ equipment any more, except as a preparation again...

@Sanka: I don't doubt that Nebbu knows what s/he is doing. But whoever enters the Hells with a weak character and then finds that the place can only be beaten by grindy behaviour gets what they deserve. I think the point of the hells is that it is a place that you don't need or want to enter with ju...

You enter the Hells with Ignis as your god and complain that it was a bad experience? What exactly is your point?

It took me until now to get my first character into the new hells, a Draconian Conjurer of Vehumet. Either it's this background, or some tweaks made to the reformed hells in between, but I can't confirm the bad experiences of those writing before me. https://underhound.eu/crawl/morgue/Majang/morgue-...

How about "Sacrifice Loyalty" or "Sacrifice Leadership", with "No being of any kind will fight for you" as the description? Not quite enough. Not only will they not fight for you, they will fight against you. I'd suggest "Sacrifice Allies" with "all bein...

Thanks! Just as well that I was killed before I could buy this.

I'm just running, sorry, walking a Gnoll under Comrade Chei in version 0.28-a0-167-g7eff39e849. In Orc 1 I found a shop with this beauty on offer: ms%20of%20speed.jpg Nice weapon, indeed. But it doesn't come in red colour, and the description does not have a warning that Cheibriados would not approv...

There should have been a warning message to stop you from doing that. Did you ignore it?

Dear advil, thanks for your help! Your information helped me to solve the problem. I had also tried these numbers you gave me, because I found them in my 0.26 macro file, but they didn't work. Until you now mentioned positive numbers, which alerted me to the fact that these numbers need to be entere...

Related to that, I'm now playing 0.27 on underhound, and I cannot set the page-up and page-down keys for a macro. I need these for direction keys for my German Thinkpad keyboard that does not have a number pad. When I try to set a key value, say for the page-up key (33) it uses the exclamation mark ...

There's no such thing as a promising mid-level spriggan. There are just mid-level spriggans that haven't died yet.

A Spriggan starts with STR 4 and does armor at -3. Is it worth trying to get to the point of using shadowdragon armor or anything other than steam? I wouldn't. Although you need to bring STR up somewhat anyway to be prepared against stat zero, shadowdragon armor is all in all too cumbersome for a s...

Right, I forgot about the slots. Thanks for bringing it up, and also for summarizing the position of those who see things different from me.

Also, what does spellcasting do now? How high a skill level is worth while? ⋅ It contributes to spell success, but less than other relevant magical skills ⋅ It contributes to spell power, but less than other magical skills ⋅ It increases your MP, more than anything ...

In spite of what Svendre said (which is all very reasonable) I would avoid Snakes as long as possible with a squishy character like this, not only because of the guardian serpents, but because all the other monsters that constrict you there. Once they do that, your speed counts for nothing. Go there...

Nice character. I don't think you're training too many skills, as you need to grow in all of them. I would even add Spellcasting.

Edit: No, forget that thing about Spellcasting, I ignored the value in parenthesis.

Wow, you have Powered by Death. How does that scale together with Wereblood?

That's why I don't play hexes. By the time you accomplish something useful you could have killed the monster three times by just throwing wads of cotton at it. To me it always feels like a huge waste of turns.

I think it would work with Cheibriados, but frankly, as a Djinn caster I would not abandon Makhleb under any circumstances - certainly not for this armor. And once you have Makhleb at high piety, you don't have any need for strong armour. Find a robe of the archmagi, and that will do.

If you have, use potions of lignification against hydras.

Magipi wrote:You would probably be able to cast 9-level spells in a light something. ...
You should use much more angels, 1 in every fight and 2-4 in boss fights.

Level-9 spells (except Zero) and angels are not compatible. Once you have level-9 spells available, just forget that you have angels.

...but I didn't shoot the cherubim.

Brilliance, am, ..., brosia!

This really gives me the kick!

I now got a bit further with a Djinn - it was given one level-9 spell, which happened to be Death's Door. I never used it, as I imagined that it would drain me of so much life essence that I wouldn't be able to cast a spell any more - so it would strictly be a very dangerous escape option. Still, th...

Now I lost my first game with a Djinn. Here are some observations: ⋅ Djinn worshipping Makhleb is very strong - the HP recovery easily makes up for all lost MP points (until I died when it didn't). ⋅ I only had a staff of conjuration, and I had to swing it a lot to achieve any ...

andrew wrote:https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7c41658a7123cd9630e3765cc5872098aef23733

is what I'm going based on.

Looks like my server still has yesterday's version on it. Djinns came online only today on underhound.

Well, good news is that Ghost moths don't drain your MP, and nothing else either.

It looks like it is possible to join these Gods. But it seems that you don't benefit from them as usual: Vehumet's powers do not include Mana recovery, and no spell gifts, so it is probably not wise to pick her.

Can we hear a little bit about the new species, Jinn, from those who designed it? Particularly some of the game mechanics are not clear: ⋅ How are spell power and spell failure rate calculated? Is it entirely by intelligence and Spellcasting skill? Can Djinn hope to cast level-9 spells du...

Now really, what would be the use of acquiring my desired unrandart with the 15th rune? Just to hold it in my hands/claws and shout hoorray? What benefit would I have from it, now that I completed everything the game can throw at me without that unrandart?

That's precisely when I used scrolls of ID. Sounds like you used them a lot.

It seems that the next version will mostly eliminate the identification subgame. The only things that need to be identified are potions and scrolls. Still the game generates an endless amount of scrolls of identification (at least in the current trunk version). But since the number of things that ne...

Siegurt wrote:Usually 1 MP is worth a lot more than 1 HP, I mean mentally if I compare "Get off one more level 9 attack spell" or "Have 9 more hps to defend attacks with" the former is going to lead me to victory more often than the latter.

Yes, that makes sense.

No, you still get Spirit Shield before Mana Link. "Magic Regeneration" is now the first mutation, which is rather nice.

Sure, it does, but it also does it at 25% HP, which I am not so keen on. As I say, I trade one scarce resource for another one. If it'd give me 2 MP for each HP, I would see the fun of it. Now I find it a bit lacking as a capstone mutation.

Now what then is the net benefit of "Magic Link" if all it really does is a one-for-one trade of one scarce resource for another one? I can see the point of "Spirit Shield" for characters that don't have much use for MP, and there is an obvious benefit to the "magic regenera...

I'm playing another DsIE that depends heavily on casting spells. This one got the "Spirit Shield" mutation set, which so far I quite disliked because I thought it interferes with my ability to cast spells. I was always aware that the "Magic Link" mutation was somehow supposed to ...

Why is it that whenever someone plays a pode the floor is absolutely devoid of jewellery. Happened to you so far, and happens to me all the time. Good luck for finding a bit more!

Nekoatl wrote:considering Ash is rarely generated on D:1

Which God ever is?

In the trunk version manuals are now goldified - just like gold coins, they don't take a space in the inventory. This gives rise to the following question: in my current game I found a manual of throwing and started studying. After a while of this, I found another manual of throwing, and my auto-exp...

It turned out to be a bug, and it's now fixed.

I feel like this thread is becoming "watch me get paralyzed over and over again on characters who depend on EV"...died in depths after getting paralyzed. I think this is the problem with EV-builds in general - there are just too many things in the game that only need to catch you once whe...

Well, it seems that it may be time to search for a bug. I'm running through Zot 5 right now, so I have to be a bit careful with experiments, but I used a few shots on doorframes. The very first one is this attempt here: LRD1.jpg With the next LRD (placed on a wall) I got this draconian annihilator t...

In the old days, using door frames to administer LRD was always a good idea to maximise the damage. But now I have more and more experiences where LRD on doors results in no damage at all, even on very susceptible enemies, although sometimes it does. Has there been a recent change that is responsibl...

There's always Vehumet for MP recovery, and that works for any character.

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