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sanka: You are right, the ideas I threw out about Abyss / Pan should be, well, thrown out, as they weren't very good. I think your approach is more promising and I'd be interested in hearing more, even if it is unclear whether this is going to change or not due to the developers being divided on whe...

Siegurt, I think he was saying, since you already have conjurations and ice at a decent level and spell success is good, you should get it hungerless (or eliminate as much hunger as you can) by training spell casting, which will also have the benefit of giving a bit better success rate, as well. But...

cerealjynx: Putting aside the whole question of armor, since at least there either option is solid, I'll just point out that the + strength rings are really not doing you any favors. It adds a very very very small amount of damage to your melee. It doesn't really do anything for you. For your charac...

New unrandart:

The Barding of Bad Rings
Centaur Barding. Evoke to create bad rings. -1,-2 slaying, hunger, -4 intelligence, you name it. Rarely on evoke it will create bad artifact ring mail (i.e. it occasionally just copies Okawaru's gifting code).

minmay wrote:I'd PREFER to make food WORK something like GOLD and RUNES do, where they DON'T take up SLOTS in your INVENTORY. But that's JUST my OPINION.

THEN I am pleased to ANNOUNCE that we AGREE at least as to the CONCLUSION if not the REASONING. You HAVE to excuse ME I have TOURETTE SYNDROME of the FINGERS.

Dunno where else to put this so I'll put it here: I'd like to propose some sort of small nerf to the fog cape. Ignore if it's been changed recently, but last times i found it it was so crazy overpowered. It seriously removed almost all challenge when i got it in a normal game and in a sprint. No id...

Similarly collapsing Cheese and Pizza to one slot and Beef Jerky and Sausage to one slot wouldn't lose much but would save inventory slots. Saving inventory slots wouldn't be the reason for this; limiting interface annoyance would be. Is it that bad right now? I don't think so. Maybe a bit for Fedh...

Is there any chance that that experimental destruction branch's approach will be implemented? I thought that one handled the situation pretty well. Hopefully not because it nerfs consumables for no reason. I'd rather keep the current annoying destruction than make it not annoying but nerf consumabl...

I think badposting from a few people in favor of item destruction reform might have turned a few devs off to what I think is a very good idea. Galehar is correct to point out that bringing all your scrolls along ALL the time does have a major impact for certain areas: Abyss and Pan. I think the bene...

Is there any chance that that experimental destruction branch's approach will be implemented? I thought that one handled the situation pretty well. Yes, I think sticky flame is a particularly annoying instance of a deeper underlying problem. MoogleDan is referring (I think) to a different proposed ...

I like where you took this. Having three stages, and the final one guarding Lair in particular, is a *really* nice touch. He stays in the early game, firmly.... But if you don't deal with him now, you will have to later. The vegetarianism is a nice touch! He really does have to carry a lot of food w...

I'm glad there's some interest in Milton. :) reaver: Thank you for the feedback. I agree it has a bit of the Wizard of Yendor flavor, though.... I mainly had in mind "Boris in reverse" though when I thought this guy up, and in some ways Boris is more like Wizard of Yendor. Ash flavor can s...

I like uniques who have more to them than a spell set: Dowan and Duvessa, Boris, and so on. Boris in particular can (at least potentially) present a somewhat interesting decision: Since he will come back, is it better just to leave him alone, so long as where he spawned the first time isn't too inco...

Totally going to suicide a High Elf once the change makes it in and I give lvl 6 CBL a whirl, so thanks in advance for that!

Geez, no wonder my gifts from Okawaru have been sucking lately, he's saving the good stuff in order to woo Sandman25. [EDIT: I meant delarado... Tired when I posted that.]

Novice Nate
Species: Power-gamer
Quotes:
"Got enough food here to last me a while, better train up."
"Have you seen the Amulet of Yendor?"
"Am I in the right dungeon...?"
"Oh my god, a soldier ant!!! Oh, wait, it's just a worker ant..."

The first time I ever battled Tiamat, I dealt 150~ damage in one shot using scythe of curses. I didn't think that was possible, but one turn he was at full hp, the next he was in the red. I suppose I was probably maxing out on damage though, since my strength and dex were both at around 40~, but st...

Better yet and more realistically, he reappears with the fear status effect fleeing from something offscreen, which turns out to be a slightly OoD (maybe +4 or 5 floors) monster he generated by dicking around too long on the floor :lol: (Okay, it's not really a good idea, but it'd be a cute and cha...

I like the idea of uniques who do things *like this* a lot, Klown, but I'm not sure Novice Nate presents much of a threat as it stands. What do you think about a slightly different take on the same theme, inspired by your proposal: Novice Nate is an early game unique, stats somewhere around what you...

It does a really large amount of damage per MP, it's fun and pretty, it's unusual and challenging to use properly. I've learned it dozens of times when I was more interested in experimenting with all the cool things in the game, but now that i really try to win almost every game i start and have re...

I like what Grimm does as well. It sends a clear enough message. However, I fail to see how the tavern is just "a devs house". Maybe we need another thread about forum etiquette? I know there is the forum rules thread and the "read this before posting in GDD" but 1) they are loc...

As far as gifts go, worshiping Okawaru is basically like having a really passive aggressive, possibly bipolar aunt, and it is your birthday.

Confidence Interval wrote:
and into wrote:
Galefury wrote:I think I missed it.

That's what she said.

She didn't miss much.

Which is why it was easy for the Missus to miss.

A gift of +0 boots is pretty generous compared to what Okawaru sometimes gives you! If you are completely lacking an armor slot, and haven't yet encountered a cloak or helmet or whatever yet in game, Okawaru is fairly likely to give you a vanilla version of that. (I like to think Okie is just conser...

Galefury wrote:I think I missed it.

That's what she said.

If you just want to share the experience with the community, the CIP and YAVP forum is for that. I think you posted in Dungeon Crawl Advice without realizing that it is somewhat more serious than what you were looking for. Whether or not Advice takes itself too seriously, though, I will say in our d...

But here comes another question : can a potion a mutation "erase" a mutation of a demonspawn... I got this afternoon a clove mutation that prevented me to wear wonderful boots... If the mutation is part of the Ds mutation (if so, the text description will be in purple on the mutation scre...

I don't think all weapons should have it, I think that's way too much. Rods and enhancer staves: Yes. Weapons, probably not, unless there is some way for the game to KNOW that it is your primary weapon and sacrificing it is either a mistake or else an intentional desperation move (which won't happen...

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Sick burn!!!!11!!1!

EDIT: Seriously though, I tried to tell a bad joke, once, but the bastard refused to listen to me.

Your fat is so mom.... It reproduces copiously.

Yo momma so fat she rolled over the boulder beetle.

Donald hates your mom.... The most.

adozu wrote:yo momma so fat xom thinks it's hilarous

Yo momma so fat that Xom stopped laughing and, expressing sincere concern for her health, recommended that she consult a health care professional.

There should certainly be a way for our young people to earn a living wage without being forced into undertaking humiliating and dangerous orb runs. We need to establish a sound economic base for our society. Whaling in the Shoals is one possible route towards that. Exotic Pets Market (Lair + Snake...

(Perhaps this should be moved to GDD?) Not that your ideas are bad, rebthor, but I think smaller changes could make CBL a lot more useful, basically just do what was done with static discharge, which isn't an awesome spell but fills its role quite well now with its buffs over the last few versions. ...

The advice was bad but some of you guys are really mean sometimes Eh, I got in the first post, which had a bunch of criticism listed out, but I wrote in a very neutral tone, and I even *asked* the guy to give some more advice (or just relate his experience) a bit more because I haven't run too many...

I really like the proposal overall, including the auto-color change on the cloak in tiles. If +5 cloak is thought to be too good, a lower enchantment level and bonus to stealth would also be thematic. Doesn't have to spawn all the time on the unique for it to be associated strongly with him, I think...

I've played lots of stabbers too Amnesiac; I'm sure either is viable. (You were initially recommending speed, not a multiplicative brand though.) Daggers definitely for early game, but I generally progress on to either quick blade (if lucky) or saber otherwise. I do feel, as others said, that having...

What if it automatically targets the most powerful (power = hd or xp value) enemy (or one of the most powerful enemies) in view? This way it could be relatively low level and/or have powerful side effects, because it isn't too useful for escape. I agree that the main problem with the spell is that ...

I'd prefer a dagger of speed for stabbing on a chacacter who can only get half of bonus damage on SBs besides daggers. First reason is for stabbing "?" monsters and second is for stabbing tough monsters, like uniques. Out of curiosity I went into Wiz mode quickly and screwed around for a ...

An unbranded quick blade is better than a dagger of speed, unless the latter is extremely highly enchanted and the other is not. So go with vampiric qb. As for armor... The MR robe you have on now, plus resistances you can get from jewelry, and your AC EV SH values are quite good for where you are a...

Hunger cost is seldom a problem, so long as it is not like ration-level, or *high*-honeycomb level Players aren't allowed to see these anymore. Spell hunger is just expressed in hashes now. In general, if there are less than 8 hashes of hunger, you shouldn't worry about it. Thanks man, running 10.2...

don't you know that unarmed doesn't help your aux attacks? Or did you mix it up with fighting or something? Yeah, and even if it *did* help, it would have to help A LOT for it to be worth training UC for that boost to *aux* attacks (lol) over other skills. Max out Weapon, Fighting, Armor, Dodging, ...

Octopode Earth Elementalist, worship first god I see that makes sense for OpEE to worship Naga transmuter (long-standing favorite) Draconian Air Elementalist, branch into melee / archery hybrid early on (conjurations only used for first few floors of D if possible) Deep Elf Enchanters (easy to get w...

I don't think restricting trunk access will solve many problems, as people are about as likely to complain about stable as they are about trunk. I don't think restricting trunk access is a good move either (though admittedly I'm not in any position to have a really informed opinion there), and it i...

"Worship Trog, train nothing but Maces/Fighting/Armour" is a simple, easy plan that will take you very far. Every single other thing in this guide is either awful advice (doing Elf) or blatantly factually wrong (fire resistance has no effect whatsoever on hellfire). Unarmed Combat Skill d...

Elf 3 is unnecessary and really dangerous for a lvl 17 to 19 character, do it later if you want but not that early. rF+ doesn't help AT ALL with hellfire, it ignores rF and AC. Trog's Hand increases magic resistance this is really good I don't think you mentioned that aspect of the ability. Most dan...

Hm, if I would have some means of eliminating rF-(and hopefully even bring it to rF+) I'd go for robe, two rings and a staff of cold as I like to have as much spell power as it possible to have. Otherwise I don't see why you wouldn't want more protection. Except that only three enhancers can apply....

Uh, okay, well, it's not too late, but ... Aren't my skills already starting to get spread somewhat thinly? I figured, I'd be better off making pArrow stronger, reducing the hunger cost of my spells, so I can ditch "Gourmand, raising fighting, dodging and hopefully armour, and maybe working to...

Oh, I just wear the sust ring when I'm travelling, it's not my normal "combat" wear (Actually though all the jewelery in the game so far is in my inventory or in one shop) Ah... Hadn't taken other jewelry options into account because I saw the sustenance and assumed nothing else useful ha...

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