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Except that the player can set always_show_zot and so learn how many turns s/he has as soon as s/he enters the floor.

New draining --- yes, vast improvement. I'm still getting used to not butchering every corpse I see, though.

I thought that was a bug which had now been fixed in https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c344bb9d350318e1eebc68921712c47a6d6a558.

Not Khufu; I killed him. So either Dissolution or Ignacio. Edit: and sanka got Dissolution. So Ignacio.

Congrats to everyone, and a pleasure playing with y'all! Is there any easy way to figure out which was the one unique we missed? (Like, easier than going through each of our individual lists.)

Could just replace them with *Drain.

Alas. The sword sang in vain.

True, but I thought that minimum was applied before equipment. So negative raw stealth (from skill-armour) becomes 0, and then you get any bonus from rings. Am I wrong about that?

Qazlal yes; but don't even heavily armored characters get the one pip from the ring? And ring of flight is indeed a very special case.

And there went my MiBe. Got sloppy while mopping up V:5 and didn't notice that a vault warden had a distortion weapon. Grabbed the rune while I was there from the honeycomb vault but was smitten to death by meliai before the teleport kicked in. Guess my 2 wins will be all I get this tournament.

Every ring besides stealth, though, is at least sometimes useful in combat for most characters to whom it's useful at all.

Sorry. It does feel unfair to me that Z:5 sometimes, but not usually, has both paths blocked; makes a rather large difference in difficulty from a simple RNG roll.

Except in the early game, where they do IMO create interesting decisions/situations. Yes, once remove curse scrolls become common, curses become irrelevant.

Well yes, that's their core power. As for Te --- good luck.

I splatted another MiFi last night, trying to do Spider without a decent ranged attack. Should have known better....

Roguelikes need to rethink traps. What they're meant to accomplish, how they should be dealt with. They end up as a random event that harms you out of the blue. As if someone once read a story with dungeons and traps, and thought "wouldn't it be cool if the game had traps!" but not going ...

Distortion sounds awesome, yes!

Well the OP can speak for themself. I was aware of the 5% rule; but while the game indeed has plenty of stepdown functions I'm unsure what purpose they serve that isn't served better by the well-known diminishing returns from XP investment (which can be made harsher if need be).

Well , you still have 5+ days. Any Palentonga advice?

Congrats! Never won any of those three myself! Now working on a MiFi. Not an exciting combo, perhaps; but I want those 5000 points (and a streak). Edit: and it just died in Vaults. Encountered Asterion, Sojobo and a red draconian knight together; and waited too long before panicking. No streak for m...

I think the issue here isn't so much that it's harsh as that it's obscure.

Rules confusion --- just got my second win of the tournament (GrMo^Gozag). It seems I'm not getting the other 5000 points, though; is the issue that it doesn't count as distinct from my DDMo as they're both monks?

I think a 0-turn cost (stash is just inventory that doesn't have a letter assigned) would be less confusing, though.

Well, this forum seems to have, at least temporarily, come back to life over the past few weeks. I don't know what happened; I see no flood of new users, alas.

And I dislike reddit. Both can exist.

I think if the delay is too great (more than a turn or so) then one will have to spend just as much time thinking about which items to have in inventory versus stash, as stashed items will be unusable in combat. And if the delay isn't too great then one might as well just get rid of the 52-item limi...

Isn't this almost equivalent to just removing the 52-item limit (plus some changes to how autopickup works)? I assume using an item from stash would be almost as fast as using it from inventory.

Ok, Tomb has gotten much harder, or at least such is my understanding; I haven't tried it in years quite frankly. Zot --- I guess the new version of traps does increase one's odds of being marked in the Z:5 vault. One of the best uses of potions of cancellation IMO.

My experience, for what it's worth, is that the last version or two have been easier; though I'm not quite sure why.

Yay! Iron shots from the hobbit in crystal!

I think there are sometimes disconnected vaults? I'm not sure, though.

Depends what other armour you have, I'd say. And whether you can realistically get Iron Shot castable again before too long (I find LRD annoying to use). I'd be tempted anyway if Swamp was in my future, if only to have the chance to melee Lerny in it.

Ugh. I just lost a MiBe. Gauntlet minotaur had a +7 glaive of distortion, and that was basically all she wrote.

Question: can getting hit with distortion teleport/blink you in Gauntlet? I realize now that maybe it can't; in which case I could have berserked and had a better chance.

And isn't there a flat 5% minimum chance to hit no matter how high EV is?

I agree that ammo for throwing is rare enough to matter. OTOH, it's also rare enough to be annoying; micromanaging my quiver is annoying, to the point that if I have just one silver javelin I usually won't use it just to avoid the UI screw.

Yeah, Vine Stalkers are probably the species where I have the most sympathy with "game is won by Lair" people; certainly there's a point where it gets rather easy. But not so easy to get there.

Ok, won my DDMo. Grabbed the Orb and ran for it, which got me down to single-digit HP at one point but I made it. The Orb run featured two Pan lords in LOS at once at one point. If you're curious: https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/morgue/andrew/morgue-andrew-20210111-200512.txt

Are there people out there who don't find it a miserable experience? Anyone? (Fortunately, it's "recommended" for so few species that new players are unlikely to play it.)

Ponderous strikes me as not likely to go well with trying to not kill things. But I've never attempted a low-XL win, so I'm probably full of it.

Well, a win's a win, even if it isn't a new background.

Anyway, my DDMo has cleared D, Lair and Orc. So there's hope.

I can join if you want one more. Nick is andrew, same as here. (I'm usually good for one easy-combo win per tournament.) Edit: though I just lost my first try to an adder on D:2.

Oh, obviously bonuses should be scaled to level. I suspect there should still be some bonus for D:2, but it could be a small one. (Say, one or two identified bad consumables; still mildly useful in that they made emergency blind-reading/quaffing safer, but not too exciting.)

Well you could choose to start from 5. You could choose to start from 15. I just see nothing gained by special-casing it to veto levels 2--4.

Don't think I've ever referred to kobolds in my day-to-day life either, personally

I think the idea is that it's a mild nerf to summons, but mild enough that one won't do tedious things to avoid it. Do you think it is optimal to do those tedious things?

Is seam down? It seems to have abandoned me.

At that point, no need to start from 5; one could play a "mini-Delver" who starts from D:2 with one extra consumable or something.

How would you rebalance? Just by lowering everyone's Dodging aptitude?

Like what? Just "reached Temple", "reached Lair", etc?

Never played ToME, mechanics looked very confused and untidy to me, all the decimals, dozens of stats for each item, screenfulls of "+5.2% to that" and "-29.17 to this", Never having won ToME, and always having come back to DCSS in the end, I sympathize. DCSS, in my humble opini...

Also, just based on my experience with ToME4 --- there are actions one does for the sole purpose of getting an unlock. (Unlocking Skirmishers required me to do a bizarre dance, having not much to do with normal play; betraying the merchant is never the correct choice, except the first time you get a...

On the other hand, ghouls have +10% maxHP while bloodless vampires have -20%. (Alive vampires aren't really so undead.) That's a big difference.

(Also, I've never won a vampire, while I've won multiple ghouls. But my experience may not be typical.)

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