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Indeed. I usually don't carry them around just because of inventory issues, but they're still useful even when you don't have the chance of Kiku protection or torment immunity.

Meanwhile, people still criminally underuse Kiku's Torment ability.

DgTm they don't seem to fall off or become weak at any point. That's more of the Transmuter part being broken as always that needs a serious damage nerf sometime soon. UC+Tmut isn't supposed to be so strong that you can 1v1 a Hell Sentinel by level 10 with a D:4 investment bladehands. Anyone with a...

In all seriousness, the narcissism and gullibility of millenials has reached a critical threshold. I anticipate the wholesale collapse of western civilization in the next 10 years. There are sources indicating that every generation has basically thought the generation following them consisted of a ...

I did always think it was a little weird that the water-walking strictly only applied to water. I figured it would work on lava too till I tried. Although honestly, if you're trying to do anything with your orc mob the water walking can get annoying in places like Swamp and Shoals because you just w...

This sounds exciting. I hope there's a way to make sure an unrand doesn't bust the game. Isnt that the whole purpose of a rand/unrand? Not entirely germane to this discussion, but there are a shitload of bad to mediocre unrands. Compare Robe of Misfortune to Robe of Folly to Robe of Night. One is f...

Has anyone ever actually cared about running into Dissolution except for getting tourney points? I mean, it's a cool and flavorful unique, but there is absolutely no reason to hunt him down unless you want tourney points.

HEFi^Oka->TSO, 15 runes, 0.11. I asked tiles chat to join and watch my ascension. So a bunch did, and timbw just started insulting my vestibule stash. Later I almost died a couple times on the orb run. Insulting the stash because it was ugly, or insulting the idea of the stash period? It's not like...

Unless you're trying to full clear it, it's already functionally the shortest branch. You just find the nearest downstairs on each level, and then slime:5 has virtually (maybe even exactly) the same layout everytime.

MarvinPA wrote:Both are uncancellable transformations, so they both prevent each other.

You can't even drink potions in pig form can you?

It looks like no one mentioned it here, unless I just skipped over it, but if you're committed to VpEn, taking Kiku and having Necromancy as your back-up plan is a pretty good way to go about it. A pain shortblade with a good enchantment will wreck most living things, and your necro spells can handl...

Pretty sure the web itself wouldn't destroy the mimic, but you should still get the message for the mimic disappearing as soon as you move next to it. I'll admit those messages are easy to overlook though, unless you have a force_more attached to them. And at this point I have so many force_more_mes...

I think you'd have to be incredibly lucky to get enough nets to make a real habit out of net stabs. They get destroyed too easily, and have the additional problem of not working at all on anything above a certain size, which happens to include a lot of things you'd like to stab. You can get a decent...

Also worth noting that you can often train the first long blade you find and keep using the venom dagger you found off of that jerk kobold on d:2 and the cross-training works. But in my experience it's not productive to think of assassin as a "stealth" build, because the only effective sta...

Rast wrote:It's probably still awful for casters.

It's still shitty if you wear guardian spirit and you want to fall back on a wand after fighting in melee for a while.

removeelyvilon wrote:Sometimes I just thug it out even though I could die if I miss/I take another hit/I could get disabled at any moment.

This is the only way to play.

I didn't think it was possible to make your own undead angry at you anyway. With the possible exception of reading ?holy word, but I don't even think that does it.

Fo:Bad I'm curious as to why you think this. I haven't got a ton of experience with hunter, but are bows that much worse than crossbows for formicids? Short answer: yes. I guess you could justify using bows w/r/t the fact that arrows are much more common early than bolts are. But Fo are just better...

Sar wrote:they were winnable and people played them

Just because I took the trouble to win DDBe and stayed with Trog and never got a vampiric weapon doesn't mean I would ever recommend that nightmare to anyone because DD is anti-fun unless you take Makh or get a vamp weapon, I'm pretty sure.

DsIE^Kiku, 0.13

The current zealots are all considered exceptions: AK: It's otherwise practically impossible (especially for newbies) to play with Lugonu Be: Easy-mode CK: Xom Ultimately, starting with a god reduces the number of important choices you have to make in-game. Which is something seen as a Bad Thing. I...

Lasty wrote:Rage fell off my radar. I agree it should have a penalty. What penalty should it have? I was thinking exhaust on equip, but that would, ironically, let you use it to block *rage.

+1 level of berserkitis, obviously.

3 is the big one, I think. Current passive defences are actually special cases, which you are likely not to get: two gods out of 23, three races out of 26, some artifacts you can't expect to find, and a level 8 double school spell. Halflings have innate rMut too. And there are 3 levels of rMut muta...

High Elves: "A race that has great stats and can worship a god is no fun. Go play DG or worship Chei."

Deep Dwarves: "A race that is clearly overpowered and tedious as fuck is the soul of DCSS."

Ah yes. That's also limited in that the thing you're shadow stepping to needs to be asleep though.

As I said in ##crawl-dev, the jumping mechanic was obviously deemed to be way too fun to be attached to Felids or boots without some sort of penalty. So now we have Power Leap (which you have to make several Ru sacriices to get) and lame Slow + Hop.

Bikeshedding Cowl {*noise, shoutitis, MR+++}

There's a reason enslavement is no longer a spell. I'm pretty confident that a better version of it isn't going to become a racial ability ever.

Also, there's also a similar Yred ability that is a top tier god ability.

Yes, you can use Ozo's in Dragon Form. Or at least it carries over if you cast it before casting DF. I don't remember if you have to do it in a particular order or not.

I'd be cool with rod of clouds moving to an xp-gated evoker like lightning rod. Does seem like an enormous gamble otherwise, since rod of clouds often picked "the one cloud you didn't want for the given situation" even at 25 evo.

Without actually taking the time to look it up, I believe you can "rattle" something that doesn't make a noise when you shake it. And of course there is the idiom of "getting rattled." Neither of which seem to apply to curse skulls, but hey =p Also clearly the staff of silence sh...

FR: Berserk Mennas

NhorianScum wrote:Parrow: Fullscreen 1 shot kill on anything without Rpois. It wins the game real hard but frankly you're not taking this outside of VM/Wz starts.

Clearly we are not actually playing the same game, because I will take PArrow every time it's available too.

AFAIK, not even the chaotic gods hate the Lajatang of Order. Xom, Jiyva, and Lugonu certainly don't hate silver weapons anyway. Although it's kind of in keeping that order would prohibit chaos while chaos would prohibit nothing. But then, Zin is cool with distortion weapons too, so I don't know how ...

You would need a whole lot of corpses to get corpse rot close to the kind of area coverage that either fcloud or pcloud get. I did read the original post and disagree with most of it, but the freezing cloud part really stuck out to me. I would also argue that the only places in the game where rF is ...

Freezing cloud is one of the best spells in the game imo. Investment is not great for an ice mage since you're already training conj/ice. Branching into air? No sweat, just makes my swiftness and r/dMsl that much better. Once you get it online it can solo basically the whole game from that point fo...

Yeah I thought about that after I posted. Stupid shadow imps and their animate dead.

To be fair, the 33 people who died to Eustachio the human zombie were almost certainly going to die to normal Eustachio too.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you have situations where it's a good idea to put on then remove Faith simply to game your piety level, you probably need to address something.

Nekoatl wrote:They can also trigger on riposte strikes. >:D

Hilariously, Na/Op constriction does too.

Clearly the solution is a tree race. Give them evokable blink; you just have to hope you eventually land on the stairs you want. Should make the orb run a blast too.

Rast wrote:
dracos369 wrote:
Quazifuji wrote:What if Maurice could copy any item you use against him? Quaff a potion, he gets the same effect. Blast him with a wand, he can now use that wand.

Yeah, let's make him a pirate, not a thief.

You wouldn't download a wand.

But you would say "Yarrrrr!" while shooting a wand at someone.

Play an orc, grab an axe, go to town. Crank up a ton of invo at some point because occasionally you'll want to pacify something/heal yourself/use Divine Protection. Divine Favor is basically Chei stats without having to suck in return for them.

I am not the best player, but here is my advice: 1.) Throw frost is ranged damage, which is very very useful in some situations, when you never want to stand next to a monster. 2.) I usually just train ice to 6 or even 8, not because of future spells but to increase spellpower of freeze. But the fi...

Pff. Chei is for Ghouls and Transmuters and no one else. =p

None of which addresses the point that the number of monsters that can be confused that aren't going to get completely steamrolled by you at that point is still vanishingly small. Why not just pick up one of the 27 confusion wands that are undoubtedly lying around and train some evo so you can confu...

Ice elementalist should be a recommended background for pretty much every race except Tr.

Distortion is fantastic if you:

a.) Are a stabber or caster
b.) Are with Lugonu and can freely swap

It's not so great in most other cases, unless you really like blinking enemies with ranged attacks out of melee range. It's powerful, but extremely annoying.

I recently had a TrCK that was steamrolling everything and then got into some trouble in Lair, where I then realized that Xom helpfully gave me blurry vision. So that game ended. So yeah, blurry vision is probably the worst mutation in the game, with the possible exception of reduced/no device heali...

I would just like to point out that very high Str (20+) is absolutely insane in terms of constriction damage for Na, regardless of the weapon you're using. I assume the case is the same for Op, but I am really terrible at Op so I can't confirm that.

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