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Friday, 6th November 2015, 18:39

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP: Where to take DECj^Ru

Replies: 1

Views: 829

CIP: Where to take DECj^Ru

Generally speaking I feel rather weak on DE. That's probably because I like picking up weapons on my casters, and -3 HP aptitude sucks. This particular character finished Lair and Orc and is in lower dungeon. My book is all online a long time ago, and I have decent defenses for a DE. I haven't had a...

Friday, 6th November 2015, 14:12

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Iron Dwarf, the Scrollless Species (Now With Spellcasting)

Replies: 47

Views: 16229

Re: Iron Dwarf, the Spellless and Scrollless Species

Interesting, but highly annoying in practice I suspect.

Friday, 6th November 2015, 14:07

Forum: The Dart Board

Topic: clans for 0.17 tournament?

Replies: 22

Views: 8316

Re: clans for 0.17 tournament?

I'm game. The account is pblur.

Perhaps the 'Free and Easy' clan?

Thursday, 5th November 2015, 19:47

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove Abandoned Shops

Replies: 53

Views: 14079

Re: Remove Abandoned Shops

No, I think it's based on knowing to expect a shop in a certain place (whether because Orc:4, bazaar, ash or a scroll of magic mapping) and getting the to find an abandoned shop. And feeling loss when that happens. His complaint wasn't 'I don't get enough shops,' it was 'I don't like the feeling of ...

Thursday, 5th November 2015, 18:18

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Race: Silent Spectre

Replies: 16

Views: 3852

Re: Race: Silent Spectre

This would be considered an effect of having demonic spellcasting/holiness within silence; not a racial mutation.

How is it different from a racial mutation? I assume it would show up that way in the A menu?

Thursday, 5th November 2015, 17:47

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove Abandoned Shops

Replies: 53

Views: 14079

Re: Remove Abandoned Shops

so the real solution to the OP complaint is Gamblers Anonymous? that squares with a theory i've held for a while now: that DCSS is the world's most elaborate slot machine, and the devs are a front for the mob! Well. If we hold that gambling is wrong in some way, yes... But my proposition is that ga...

Thursday, 5th November 2015, 16:17

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove Abandoned Shops

Replies: 53

Views: 14079

Re: Remove Abandoned Shops

While I agree that there's no inherent difference logically between a chance of not being generated and a chance to be useless, the inherent complaint is a psychological one. It's well known that people don't react emotionally the same to loss and lack of positive. (We suck at gambling.) This is par...

Thursday, 5th November 2015, 14:04

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove Abandoned Shops

Replies: 53

Views: 14079

Re: Remove Abandoned Shops

A lot of things that aren't great design when randomly generated work quite well in vaults, because there's human attention to (nominally) ensure that the design issues with that bit of nice flavor are minimized or irrelevant. In the case of abandoned shops, imagine a vault like the overgrown yuif v...

Thursday, 5th November 2015, 13:55

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: In case you still think Fulm Prism sucks...

Replies: 51

Views: 57023

Re: In case you still think Fulm Prism sucks...

One more average damage stat: Searing Ray (level 2 single school), 40 spell power, zaps 1/2/3/4
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Yes, the last shot out-performs IMB. The Cj spell book is damn good.

Thursday, 5th November 2015, 13:48

Forum: The Dart Board

Topic: Crawl "Sudden Death" tournament Season 4, redneck edition

Replies: 98

Views: 44179

Re: Crawl "Sudden Death" tournament Season 4, redneck editio

OK, now that I understand more of what feature freeze means, I'm OK with games from week 6 being on 0.17 (since week 6 basically entirely overlaps with the 0.17 tourney.)

Thursday, 5th November 2015, 02:54

Forum: The Dart Board

Topic: Crawl "Sudden Death" tournament Season 4, redneck edition

Replies: 98

Views: 44179

Re: Crawl "Sudden Death" tournament Season 4, redneck editio

Fedhas forgives confused enemies killing plants (#9917)

But I may be confused

Wednesday, 4th November 2015, 20:52

Forum: The Dart Board

Topic: Crawl "Sudden Death" tournament Season 4, redneck edition

Replies: 98

Views: 44179

Re: Crawl "Sudden Death" tournament Season 4, redneck editio

I don't really like the idea of deciding what changes are major an what ones aren't. For instance, I'm trying to get a good god coverage, and I haven't used Fedhas yet. We already have a significant divergence in fedhas balance from 0.17 and 0.18a. Can I really make Fedhas an option if I let people ...

Wednesday, 4th November 2015, 20:38

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: In case you still think Fulm Prism sucks...

Replies: 51

Views: 57023

Re: In case you still think Fulm Prism sucks...

I just figured I'd add some average damage numbers to back up the damage claims here. Lvl 5: Iskenderun's Battlesphere (per shot) 7+0.09*Power Lvl 4: Fulminant Prism 10.5+0.263*Power Lvl 5: Fireball 6.5+0.25*Power Lvl 4 (single spell): IMB 7+0.16*Power Lvl 6: Bolt of Fire 12+0.333*Power 40 is quite ...

Wednesday, 4th November 2015, 15:59

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove Abandoned Shops

Replies: 53

Views: 14079

Re: Remove Abandoned Shops

I play a lot of gozag. :D

And when I said vaults, I meant in the 'pre-defined content' sense, not the branch.

Wednesday, 4th November 2015, 15:41

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Race: Golem, song of fire and ice

Replies: 9

Views: 2796

Re: Race: Golem, song of fire and ice

How is extremely slow a good racial mutation? Am I confused?

Wednesday, 4th November 2015, 15:17

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove Abandoned Shops

Replies: 53

Views: 14079

Re: Remove Abandoned Shops

Um. A crawl god likes my idea. I'm not sure how to feel about that... I mean you sponsor mass-murder and excuse it by requiring the mass murderers to not eat the corpses of the people they kill? Non-cannibalism excuses murder?

Wednesday, 4th November 2015, 15:15

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: Tactical Input Syndrome

Replies: 11

Views: 2489

Re: Tactical Input Syndrome

What if I told you that there's a "traditional roguelike mechanic" in the game that could be removed without making Crawl's design appreciably worse, that is responsible for somewhere around 300-1000 extra keypresses per winning game, all of which have little to no impact whatsoever on th...

Wednesday, 4th November 2015, 15:10

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove Abandoned Shops

Replies: 53

Views: 14079

Re: Remove Abandoned Shops

I disagree about the foodshops... I think they're about right. And abandoned shops should still be usable for flavor (abyss and vaults.) We could really do with removing portal mimics though. I find them incredibly unfun. I mean, I like swamp, etc. mimics and rune mimics, because they're simply pret...

Wednesday, 4th November 2015, 03:17

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Race: Silent Spectre

Replies: 16

Views: 3852

Re: Race: Silent Spectre

I think the noise-spreading aspect of silence should be separated from the spell/invo suppressing, these should be renamed slightly to avoid two entirely different things being called silent spectres, and these should only have the no-noise aspect of silence. Add perma -Wiz, and raise a few of those...

Wednesday, 4th November 2015, 03:12

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: Race: Lava Serpent/Salamander

Replies: 5

Views: 1324

Re: Race: Lava Serpent/Salamander

This does sound more like molten gargoyle or molten construct/golem than salamander

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 22:22

Forum: The Dart Board

Topic: Crawl "Sudden Death" tournament Season 4, redneck edition

Replies: 98

Views: 44179

Re: Crawl "Sudden Death" tournament Season 4, redneck editio

Rather than delay week 6, I'll extend the deadline on it, so week 6 will have 3 weeks to finish. Is that agreeable?

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 21:21

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: [YAFVP] Troll Monk of Okawaru, 3 runes

Replies: 8

Views: 2341

Re: [YAFVP] Troll Monk of Okawaru, 3 runes

I've never played Fo much. I'll have to try that combo

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 21:16

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: Very-very small D5

Replies: 18

Views: 4529

Re: Very-very small D5

The consensus on ##crawl-dev was that it was a bug. I didn't see anyone nail down exactly how it happened though.

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 19:36

Forum: The Dart Board

Topic: CSDC: Week 5, Season 4 SpSk

Replies: 21

Views: 6027

Re: CSDC: Week 5, Season 4 SpSk

Ouch

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 18:04

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: Test your knowlegde

Replies: 6

Views: 1730

Re: Test your knowlegde

To put it another way, if you put all nine of your level-up points into str you'd get about 3 slaying at the end of the game. OTOH: Race: Fo str: 35 dex: 24 ER: 11 dodging:20 armour: 27 :: EV: 31 Race: Fo str: 44 dex: 15 ER: 11 dodging:20 armour: 27 :: EV: 23 You'd be giving up 8 EV. I'd take the 8 ...

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 17:30

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP: HaAs^Oka, the blowgun build with 15 runes

Replies: 13

Views: 3696

Re: YAVP: HaAs^Oka, the blowgun build with 15 runes

Assassins are best played as ordinary melee character that happen to start with one of the best items in the game (curare) and one of the best items in the early game (poison needles). If you're having trouble, run a HOAs. Train up an axe. Use curare on all early vulnerable uniques. Use poison on al...

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 17:19

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Hasted and Spider Form but still could not out run Duvessa

Replies: 28

Views: 6238

Re: Hasted and Spider Form but still could not out run Duves

Stasis is worse than inaccuracy for the entire game outside extremely specific situations (say, fighting Grinder)

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 16:29

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: [YAFVP] Troll Monk of Okawaru, 3 runes

Replies: 8

Views: 2341

Re: [YAFVP] Troll Monk of Okawaru, 3 runes

FE is strongest on hybrids because sticky flame is your best spell. I know some people like IE hybrids, but I'll take FE any day.

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 16:27

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: Golubria's Repulsion Field spell

Replies: 10

Views: 2492

Re: Golubria's Repulsion Field spell

Pro tip; macro all your prefight charms to a key (I use '0') and punch it when monsters come into LOS.

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 16:23

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: Spell idea: Boiling Blood

Replies: 5

Views: 1528

Re: Spell idea: Boiling Blood

This should be a repel-missiles-esque toggle; you cast it once, then each time it procs it has a chance to dissipate You feel the last traces of fire leave your veins Edit: I know devs keep threatening to rework charms, but they've been doing that for 3 versions or so. I'm content with incremental r...

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 16:19

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Fighter Reasons?

Replies: 18

Views: 4136

Re: Fighter Reasons?

Fighter weapons: (rapier, flail, war axe, trident, longsword) Gladiator weapons: (rapier, flail, war axe, trident, longsword or quarterstaff) Quarterstaff is a good weapon, but otherwise it's the same. Berserker: (short sword, mace, hand axe, falchion, or spear) Much worse. Skills, Fighter/Gladiator...

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 14:51

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: [YAFVP] Troll Monk of Okawaru, 3 runes

Replies: 8

Views: 2341

Re: [YAFVP] Troll Monk of Okawaru, 3 runes

Congratulations! Yeah, GrEE is pretty close to the strongest caster. ;) Good luck!

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 13:03

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Proposal: Xom can't be worshipped by undead

Replies: 21

Views: 6502

Re: Proposal: Xom can't be worshipped by undead

I'm not going to say that MuCK with Xom scumming is actually better than any good combo. For streaking I'd way rather play HO--, Sp--, or whatever. I'm not even 100% persuaded it's better than a good mummy (say MuIE or somesuch). But I'm 100% sure it's better than MuCK without Xom scumming. You're g...

Tuesday, 3rd November 2015, 12:56

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Hasted and Spider Form but still could not out run Duvessa

Replies: 28

Views: 6238

Re: Hasted and Spider Form but still could not out run Duves

Aside from being permanently kitable, you mean?

Monday, 2nd November 2015, 16:58

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: what was your halloween costume

Replies: 24

Views: 5125

Re: what was your halloween costume

Returning to the original topic... I dressed up as babysitter+husband extraordinaire and managed to get my wife a nap, a candlelit dinner, and half a day of complete peace from the baby. Best Halloween ever. ;)

Monday, 2nd November 2015, 15:23

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Species Idea: Werewolf

Replies: 9

Views: 3324

Re: Species Idea: Werewolf

I admit he didn't specify, but I'm imagining Sp-level HP pools. Which should make this an interesting race to play.

Monday, 2nd November 2015, 14:17

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Iron Dwarf, the Scrollless Species (Now With Spellcasting)

Replies: 47

Views: 16229

Re: Iron Dwarf, the Spellless and Scrollless Species

Ah. Agreed. You could replace spell-less with perma -Wiz. Even give it reasonable aptitudes for some magic so that you have difficulty casting magic, but have good spell power when casting.

Monday, 2nd November 2015, 13:54

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Iron Dwarf, the Scrollless Species (Now With Spellcasting)

Replies: 47

Views: 16229

Re: Iron Dwarf, the Spellless and Scrollless Species

The proposal is thought out and well written! I don't have time to go into the details, but one comment: spell-less is certainly a possible handicap, but it is in no way as strong as other (such as slow movement, or no healing). Almost every species can be won spell-less (it's a challenge for Sp an...

Monday, 2nd November 2015, 13:48

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Proposal: Xom can't be worshipped by undead

Replies: 21

Views: 6502

Re: Proposal: Xom can't be worshipped by undead

I dunno. MuCK is easily the easiest mummy I've played. Maybe it's just me, but it feels stronger and more survivable than taking the same bad Xom actions while potentially in the middle of combat.

Monday, 2nd November 2015, 01:55

Forum: The Dart Board

Topic: CSDC: Week 5, Season 4 SpSk

Replies: 21

Views: 6027

Re: CSDC: Week 5, Season 4 SpSk

And what about Boris and Natasha? OK, so... Banishing isn't killing Boris and Natasha count as killed the first time. Avoid geryon; you don't need to kill him. But diving through the vestibule on a Sp sounds like the hardest week to try for 15-runes... Unless you have darkness+shadows + controlled ...

Sunday, 1st November 2015, 13:22

Forum: The Dart Board

Topic: CSDC: Week 5, Season 4 SpSk

Replies: 21

Views: 6027

CSDC: Week 5, Season 4 SpSk

Please use this thread for discussion of all things pertaining to Week 5 of Crawl Sudden Death Challenges Season 4 . Week 5: SpSk (Spriggan Skald) Tier 1 bonus: Kill no uniques before your first rune. Tier 2 bonus: Win a game without killing any uniques (3 points, uniq point included). Week 5 Gods: ...

Sunday, 1st November 2015, 13:20

Forum: The Dart Board

Topic: Crawl "Sudden Death" tournament Season 4, redneck edition

Replies: 98

Views: 44179

Re: Crawl "Sudden Death" tournament Season 4, redneck editio

Nope, that won't work.

Sunday, 1st November 2015, 00:50

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Proposal: Xom can't be worshipped by undead

Replies: 21

Views: 6502

Re: Proposal: Xom can't be worshipped by undead

It's possible, but less horrifically abusable. Temple eliminates nearly all risk for a mummy. You'll eventually run out of nearby monsters on a normal race.

Sunday, 1st November 2015, 00:20

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Proposal: Xom can't be worshipped by undead

Replies: 21

Views: 6502

Proposal: Xom can't be worshipped by undead

Flavor-wise, they bore him. In reality Xom-scumming is the worst case of scumming because it's remarkably powerful (sorry Blade), and effectively hungerless races shouldn't have access to that.

Sunday, 1st November 2015, 00:18

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Race: Silent Spectre

Replies: 16

Views: 3852

Re: Race: Silent Spectre

DK? Those don't exist anymore, right? I'd think this would make an excellent enchanter too.

I really like the idea. It sounds way more fun than mummy.

Sunday, 1st November 2015, 00:12

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: Radical consumables 1 by 1 changes

Replies: 64

Views: 18894

Re: Radical consumables 1 by 1 changes

The one of these I like is replacing flight with batform. Flight is awkwardly simple right now; bat-form is a much more interesting tradeoff. Though that infringes on vampires. Maybe wisp-form?

Friday, 30th October 2015, 21:00

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP: My return to Crawl (MuCK, GrGl, KoWr, FoFi, VSTm)

Replies: 11

Views: 3436

Re: YAVP: My return to Crawl (MuCK, GrGl, KoWr, FoFi, VSTm)

I took a stab at this. My MuCK is still alive. Stopped scumming after first rod drop, abd found two more and a +23 CPA {rF+} by Lair. I entered Lair at 61 AC. I got the hell ending, so I just dove and killed Geryon. Then found Doom Knight in an orc shop... This is really silly. Really really really ...

Friday, 30th October 2015, 16:34

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: God Tiers by Invocations Importance

Replies: 32

Views: 10133

Re: God Tiers by Invocations Importance

I suppose maybe it depends on how short on food you are; sif channeling is more hunger costly.

Friday, 30th October 2015, 16:23

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove Shafts

Replies: 59

Views: 16716

Re: Remove Shafts

I think there's an argument to be made that tabstorm's right, and Crawl would seriously be better with random Xom/Hell effects across the whole game via the trap-triggers-when-it-comes-in-LOS approach, but I tend to lean toward simply removing traps and giving those effects to monsters instead. Lar...

Friday, 30th October 2015, 16:02

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: Minor Naga Buff

Replies: 9

Views: 2307

Re: Minor Naga Buff

Why? Spit Poison already seems quite strong... And how would you handle the mutation?
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