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I had forgotten about that golf thing. Please add the unrandart "Golf Club", which, when it kills an enemy, uses the head of the enemy as a projectile thrown in the same direction as the hit that killed it. BTW, is a circle of people who regularly meet to play golf also a golf club? Prett...

Weapon choice is meaningful in the sense of, one hander+shield+throwing vs 2 hander + launcher, and fast vs slow but that's already self contained in every weapon branch but polearms and UAC. From what I can tell it's mostly in-game as a way to give different races different feels in combat along wi...

Slime is already effectively one floor, it's just spaced vertically in a rather nifty bit of design. Can we please preserve this.

Pretty sure big shield + big rock has always been the optimal Ogre build unless you're worshiping trog. Eveningstar/Morningstar is already overkill off ogre str. -3 spells apts did not even remotely impede ogre's from picking up utility spellsets with light int invest and conjurations are pretty wor...

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There are plenty of ways to kill high Mr things on a stabber in the mid-lategame but by far the easiest option is to not take dith on En starts and train invo/necro. Or just play Ru.

EE is very stabby and actually enjoys dith and is generaly a stronger start .

Just used borgs in zot5 lungs on a FoFi^Kiku (floorgod gift ) because 7 OOF's spawned in one lung.

Three times.

It's pretty good in a 3 rune.

New newsif now completely obsoletes veh. About on par with kiku. Feels good man.

TonberryJam wrote:The only reason to go Chei as Naga is to abuse slouch. Probably with Statue Form and a Amulet of Faith. And chei is really good at making you a solid Tank. And with chei it's better to get items that increase stats.

Chei is pretty much free for Na on trunk.

NaFE^Chei

Fun times.

3 is the big one, I think. Current passive defences are actually special cases, which you are likely not to get: two gods out of 23, three races out of 26, some artifacts you can't expect to find, and a level 8 double school spell. Halflings have innate rMut too. And there are 3 levels of rMut muta...

High stealth/dodge, with enough uac to stab and a panic button god featuring some way to ninja runes is my preference on felid (LRD+ apport + passage for preference). Felids are low xl wins you'll average xl17-21. For starter book prioritize Daz spray (stabs) and Prism (This is your primary killdude...

It's worth it if you have a ton ofearly curemut, are horribly mutated, or get absolute shit on by the RNG early on playing naga.

Slings are fantastic early with no invest and terrible late with invest without metric fucktons of slay. Scritters is a huge power spike so I'd probably just take it and the Rmsl book then raid vaults for grand moneys training up a bit of bulk and investing in charms/hexes a bit to power up SMV/Rmsl...

Seconding wand of flame being very strong in the water branches.

Bit late but I rather enjoy playing ghoul and vampire in this fork.

Remove food I'm still iffy on but these racial changes should really make it to trunk.

Do slime instead. It's by far the easiest rangedude 3rd rune.

Sometimes, yes. If something obnoxious like snake+shoals shows up on a dude capable of early slime the route might look like slime>exp in vaults>abyss or shoals or (rarely) snake/tomb> open 3rd rune. Depends entirely on drops since most 3 rune viable branches can be cheesed out without risking snake...

Slime is legit my firstrune of preference on rangedudes or anything with excessively high power lrd+brilliance. Ez dive ez life, immo+haste cheeses out trj supprisingly easily. Tombs is rather smooth and simple with the recent noise change as a second or 3rd rune. Depending on god/combo/floorgod it'...

Throwing is quite nice for panlords provided you can actually weild a blowgun.

Mages like to whip out melesticks when silenced along with actually using channel+elemental staves.

Plays like a much much weaker hill orc.

Cool idea though.

Ash is already the best god in the game for everything but megazigs.

You really do not wwnt to xurse weapon in ext which is the only place HW matters.

That said this would be a nice quality of life buff.

treat it like fcloud, but dual school level 3 ft blast damage.

Or just spectate doesnt as he learns the spell on every single combo.

Snake vault ft vashnia is already way meaner than both of those.

I dont think there is anything "painful" about playing any dd, quite the contrary, it is a smooth care-free run. If anything, its just boring. Your pain is just you trying to play a highly resourceful race conservatively. Conservative is not how I would phrase my play ever. The health mir...

VeryAngryFelid wrote:So how a NaBe would kill a panlord?

Tabtabtab.

It's an xl27 naga.

Playing a truely obscene number of randomnagas.

Worshiping first viable non-okatrog god.

Sequence breaking or running lairless. There are a suprising number of combo's that benefit from this.

Playing quickly.

DD works but playing one is like slowly flaying the skin off your own genitals.

The change just makes DDEE^Mak (the least painful combo in precious versions) nauseatingly painful.

No.

Removing wands and Pcloud changes were positive, the other changes all feel strictly worse.

It certainly makes this game playable.

Na goes hybrid without heavy armor invest. Becaucse they're naga's. Just acquire barding and enchant it up, you'll still tab zot with 40+ AC in the archmagi robe.

If no books have dropped you probably want to go kiku or newsif.

The funny thing is this is a direct buff to Pcloud.

One should not confuse number of keypresses with number of interesting decisions made or the amount of risk taken. The other day, I used OTR to clear out Orc almost without getting hit. I killed an orc warlord by kiting it the whole length of the floor without it able to hit me once. Is that "...

There is a reason nobody plays D&D 4.0

These seem better suited to Pan snce hell effects are... sorta implied to happen to every single living thing that enters that place and pan is a realm of infinite variety that uuuuuh, is 99% bland as fuck.

Also hell is hell so you'll never see them because dive dive dive.

Most fixedarts are literally spells or consumables in equipment form.

Haunt is very nice, but it is not worth learning if you don't have use for both summonings and necromancy. For a summoner who first learns Regeneration and trains some necromancy and then learns Dispel Undead and learns some more necromancy, it is a natural pick imo. Sublimation of blood is almost ...

Haunt is very nice, but it is not worth learning if you don't have use for both summonings and necromancy. For a summoner who first learns Regeneration and trains some necromancy and then learns Dispel Undead and learns some more necromancy, it is a natural pick imo. Sublimation of blood is almost ...

The only pure "kiting" spell in Pmagic is sting, and uuuh that's every level 1 attack spell but freeze yo. Optimal OTR movement is not-kiting as often as it is kiting. It is however the only "kite spell" other than sting in games where ignite poison does not drop. It's removed in...

The main strat of FE is to burn everything.

Cflame/Sflame is mostly used for a nice mele-range yak roast.

Block the malmutation with tactics.

Yeah I cut the summoning overlap at hydra to distinguish "wood magic" and "nature" since the later could potentialy eat like half the spells in the game and hydra's are explicitly locked to lair/swamp "most of the time" and fit the flavor of magicaly manipulated growth....

Shadow creatures:

By the time you can cast this it is always strong.

Haunt: GG i win.

Going past these isn't really worth it but horrible things is nice.

Lucky Wn's are the best background though.

VM is a lot stronger than the taven suggests. On the other hand IE has some really spoilery skilling if you want to avoid the midgame dropoff. So the disparity between your winrate an taven talk isn't terribly jarring. Though I am suprised to see VM over FE/EE/Be. Fi can be stronger than Gl or even ...

Hellcrawl vampires are quite good. The domination steps on evo/divine territory (and by steps I mean curbstomps) and sounds overpowered as fuck. You missed about 100 things on that list of "vampire powers" the main one being that... killing them is just about fucking impossible, and even k...

NGL, Thought this was a post about giving clarity to Seraphs. All things considered in terms of buffing seraphs ally protection... for the love of Chei no these are already the most obnoxious enemy, worse than the unique pan/hell lords at times. They do not need fatter frens. In terms of displaying ...

VM is low-key very good, it mercilessly slaughters every single non Rpois thing in the game with the starting book and scales to a full screen iron shot on crack. The DoT aspect is much less noticeable than the "holy fuck that burst damage on non-rpois" especially with good ole ignite pois...

Release delay fireball is instant (or very very close to it). Other fun facts Ice clouds block the instant cast 0 mp fireball. Dfireball is more common than the mid tier ice spells and can be "charged" at max power every single time. It also consumes 1 spell slot, and has a similar exp req...

If disengaging from every fight requires consumable use or specific terain you want to fight absolutely nothing in a pack. Nerfs to player movement or buffs to monster movement create more of the above situation. Most "lure wow" posts involve movement changes. Most replys inform them that ...

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