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I haven't played in awhile, so I decided to play a few VS's of random backgrounds. This time, I tried doing a VSFE, took Kiku to start, found a Pain weapon and branded it, then changed to Chei for Orc and onward because it's more fun. This ended up being an actual warrior mage in that I use bolt of ...

not too easy NOW. it was always very easy, especially once you got past the earliest floors of the game. most of the quality of life changes were just that, though i suppose melee did get buffed a little bit with the increase in the effectiveness of strength and the removal of negatively enchanted b...

Yes, the current highscore isn't even a 15 rune win, if I recall correctly. It might have been version 0.9 or something. the current high score is due to a bug, the "real" highscore is a 15 rune vsmo^chei in 0.17. on the topic of the OP, it would be nice to have this as a game mode someho...

can that D:6 glaciate ghost actually spawn online or are there further restrictions based on XL?

What about for defenses on something that doesn't wear armor like Dr? Evasion is overrated. I suppose you could make an exception to this line of thinking for something like Dr. I started to greatly reduce my investment in Dodging/Dex after watching Dynast games, and it's remarkable how little of a...

edgefigaro wrote:Do people do this? Do people want to do this? Is this actually a problem that needs solving?

When has that ever mattered

it's usually not that good, I would make an exception for: 1. Trolls: You have Claws 3 2. Ghouls: You have Claws and a good apt compared to everything else, but you can't transmute anyway. Ghouls are kind of mediocre. 3: Vine Stalker: You can get into really low attack delay and do a ton of damage w...

Suggestion: nerf strength. Specifically, make strength not reduce spellcasting penalties from heavier armour as much (at all). This would give low strength hybrid characters less reason to put points in STR. I think the core of the problem is that Dex has no clear role. Str is good because it incre...

VeryAngryFelid wrote:We need more zealot backgrounds. Sp of chei from turn 1, na of qazlal from turn 1, fe of tso etc.

Snail Knight.

I think Dynast is just good. Poison spitting is a nice trick, but it's important to note that Nagas also get rPois (relevant when there are so many deaths to adders), +stealth, +3 HP aptitude, and can use shields easily. If you haven't looked at the morgues, Dynast never trains Dodging, puts any poi...

To soak up XP, same reason we have so many */Conjurations spells. It wouldn't be too hard in theory to get rid of fighting/spellcasting as separate skills and have HP/spell level growth depend only on XL and species, but you would have to fiddle with the melee and spellpower formulae.

I think the implication is that zot:1-4 and profane halls aren't dangerous.

0.17, though there are a few things I would change in it. 0.16 would be the next runner up but, shadow traps...

Also I enjoy doing turn-count speedruns and that has basically been repeatedly shit on in versions after 0.17 through various removals, spell changes, and branch changes.

use okawaru so you can get gifts and +5 to UC

I would seriously recommend chei or makhleb (even makhleb from the start on a Minotaur) over trying to do a Berserker for a 15 rune speedrun. Trog is miserable in extended at low XL and surviving his wrath is also miserable without infinite teleport or even a wand of teleportation.

like I said, 1/100, based on my experience. turukano: cTele can save backtracking time, but having Passage for zot 5 can shave several hundred turns, though I guess you can get a similar result in 0.16 with good luck. I'm really not sure which one is better, it's probably pretty even, possibly with ...

I thought mutagenic corpses played by different rules than mutation potions?

1/100 characters are viable (not quits before a Lair branch) if you play VSMo^Chei, in my experience. You must have statue form usable before Lair branches, or have some source of rPois and a decent amount of AC available. You need infinite teleport (so 0.17 and earlier, 0.17 is best probably) as ea...

Why chei + book is bad? A good book background is still better than a melee start, and it is kinda easy to transit from spell dude to melee dude + support spell once you get chei. Moving slowly with a character who is essentially helpless at 0 MP is asking for trouble. Think of how much time one us...

I think they don't use Torment if you're susceptible to it, if that's what you're thinking of. Their af:cold would make them pretty good allies, imo.

But seriously, the Orb status in all of Zot actually does kind of irritate me. "Should you be able to use controlled blink arbitrarily many times?" "Sure." -enters Zot- "Wait! I changed my mind." "But I just got this spell castable..." "Too bad." It ...

Why chei + book is bad? A good book background is still better than a melee start, and it is kinda easy to transit from spell dude to melee dude + support spell once you get chei. Moving slowly with a character who is essentially helpless at 0 MP is asking for trouble. Think of how much time one us...

troll, minotaur, gargoyle, vine stalker, formicid. reasons: Troll statue melee is powerful Minotaurs and gargoyles are good and can survive the early game easily vine stalkers with chei will get a big strength and dex boost that will trigger their aux attack every time. this will lead to a Yuge incr...

That's from CXC chat today with some interesting thoughts about 0.20: ******* Turgon: Nevertheless 0.20 is a step to make extended harder Turgon: Consider your berserkitis which caused you some trouble 4thArraOfDagon: yea 4thArraOfDagon: the truth is 4thArraOfDagon: nothing is unapproachable 4thArr...

Have him play GrBe. He just needs to learn when to press aa and ab.

honestly it seems like fewer people are playing but maybe I'm just delusional

Also dude if you are playing for turncount you are playing a vastly different game than the one the developers are thinking about. Removing yellow wands, Orb status, and so on do, of course, make a 15 turn highscore run much more difficult, this goes without saying, since it directly makes the late...

Also dude if you are playing for turncount you are playing a vastly different game than the one the developers are thinking about. Removing yellow wands, Orb status, and so on do, of course, make a 15 turn highscore run much more difficult, this goes without saying, since it directly makes the late-...

Yes. I know duvessa does not think so but they've never really explained why they think the possibility of getting teleported anywhere on the current floor where there are monsters, at any time, randomly, is not dangerous This is a basic theorem in tavern logic. Danger does not exist after D:3, so ...

Never walk down a different stair than the first one you used unless you absolutely have to. Rarely you might get screwed but what can you do? You're more likely to die to missing or miscasting against the first adder you meet on D:2

imo the zot teleport change made the game harder than removing yellow wands

i guess there is a bit of a problem with enemies that rely on having a bunch of weak attacks, but you could always fiddle with the numbers. The point of heavy armour is that it really shines against exactly these enemies Sort of. GDR is like an AC floor that can depend on the enemy's max hit. A fla...

it's good insofar as heavy armor melee is good. Dith benefits are not that great compared to the myriad of better god choices available to such a character.

I wonder what the correspondence between Dungeon time and real time is. Digestion speed is probably the most useful metric.

Suggestion: have an AC range like in Sil depending on what is now GDR and your max AC, but apply it against all attacks instead of only melee. This is nice and transparent while still reducing the spikiness of damage like one would like for heavy armor. For instance, in GDA one might have AC: 10-40 ...

I think it has to be games on the same server.

One thing I noticed is that right afetr tournament start some players start several easy combos like MiBe, GrFi and HOGl at different servers and play just one of them while saving all other characters immediately at turn 1. When there is no streak and there are no better characters to play, they r...

Sounds good to me. A long streak is very helpful for having a good score if you don't want to play 10 hours a day. I think for an earlier tournament I actually planned out what races and classes to play in what order for 20+ games, but then I died to tabbing an ogre ghost with af:freeze and rage qui...

I used to think shields (esp. large shields) were bad, but I reversed my position on them after watching dynast streak 19 NaWn's mostly with axes shields and 0 dodging or dex investment, ever. It seems to work. I suppose you could argue that it worked in spite of suboptimal play because of the quali...

I would love to watch people who tell it's not dangerous, actually do Zot:5 with teleportitis. So many things can go wrong if you land in one of the lungs (and may I say that is very likely case when your +Tele kicks in). Especially now that teleports are delayed and PoG-spell doesn't work there an...

Once, I died to getting yellow contam from miscasting deflect missiles with a red percentage, getting teleportitis, which triggered one tile from the upstair on elf 2, and I didn't manage to teleport out of the hall of blades after several tries. So in theory you can die from it, it just requires a ...

How about making LCS have bolt targetting/penetration instead, to differentiate from iron shot? In practice it just gets used as a coverage spell, where it competes with iron shot and OOD.

All saying ID is good amounts to is saying that acquainting yourself with how to soft-id scrolls and potions via stack size is an intrinsic good that outweighs the gameflow interruption that IDing causes. obviously you can't safely ID jewelery without a scroll of remove curse because you can get som...

If you don't want to play a Mi or a Be try something like HOFi, it is not that much weaker than Mi, while also not being a Berserker, or having any racial Features that would change how you play.

enemies with af:* or projectiles are basically always going to outperform enemies that mainly attack with unflavored melee if their nominal damage is similar. if you want nagarajas to be the strongest monster you basically have to increase their damage or give them shields. another option would be t...

just teleport

This is an idea that makes sense if you are in this imaginative mode where the important thing is feeling like you're in a dungeon doing real life dungeon stuff. It makes no sense from the perspective that you're a guy at a computer hitting keys and making progress in a single player game, not that...

Use Gozag with Octopodes so you can get more good rings. Then you won't feel bad about this sort of thing.

Remember when the consensus was that inacc was an irrelevant penalty? Good times...

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