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A clock is hard on new players, as it may rush them into taking risks they shouldn't take. New players probably should use degenerate tactics (to some extent) to make it through their first game. Experienced players have a clock in the scoring system, as it heavily rewards low turn counts. If I want...

What about increasing the number of runes needed to enter Zot with every 50.000 turns beyond 100.000? That should be an incentive against degenerate game play.

No, it's trunk.

And yes, it frees up a much needed inventory slot.

Siegurt wrote:It appears that spell hunger has also been removed.

Yaaay!!!

"Sorry, you don't eat raw flesh."
Am I expected to find more rations now? How can I protect a troll from starvation?

For unique harvesting, in previous tournaments I could see which uniques were still on my to-do list. Maybe I missed an easier way, but this time I had to compare my list of vanquished uniques with the top scorer's list to see which ones were still missing. That should be a bit easier.

And yes, Absolute Zero is just wonderful, much nicer than Glaciate. It makes Lehudib's Crystal Spear entirely obsolete, and as a guaranteed one-shot solution it is surprisingly MP-efficient compared to other single-target spells. In combination with Vehumet's MP recovery it lets you kill quite a lot...

Absolute Zero is a new level 9 Ice spell in 0.25, replacing Glaciate. It kills 1 monster immediately - you can not target with it, it randomly kills 1 amongst the nearest ones. To the best of my knowledge it kills everything in the game including named Pan Lords. Not quite - it always kills the mon...

I would have thought so, too, but Wiki says that the damage depends on the relevant other skills - weapons or spells. So it probably is just the shadow form duration - I better stop training the skill now...

First time in a long time that I got anywhere with Dithmenos - just grabbed my first rune ever under his guidance. Is there any other reason besides extending the length of shadow form to train invocations? I don't intend to use it a lot, if at all.

Killed it at least twice with one short application of Absolute Zero - but this option didn't exist until quite recently, and it really feels like cheating. Still had to deal with TRJ's spawns in the next move.

Well, now you have the holy handgrenade.

It's good for that too, if said enemy is low on AC or you are high on evocations.

tealizard wrote:The I menu does show the description. You just have to select the spell whose description you want to read.

Indeed it does. I was just too stupid to see it. Thank you!

Excellent, that does it. But I'd really like to have a less roundabout way to do this...

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No, that doesn't do it - that gives me the spell stats, but not the plain-text description.

Is there a way to see the spell descriptions after learning a spell? In the memorization menu, the second screen gives you access to clear-text descriptions of the spell, but once you have learned it, the spell screen only gives you two screens of vital statistics, and I can't find a way to see the ...

...when I dare to play another Octopode game, and I make it to the lair without finding a single ring - not even a bad one. And I also did not identify a scroll of blinking, so when I turned a corner and tried to stare down that huge hydra, the game was basically over.

...I get sent to the Abyss by Sonja at Level 13. So far the Abyss goes nicely, because just previously a scroll of acquirement gave me an evening star of holy wrath, and as a Fo I manage to stay in little nooks and crannies to pounce on unsuspecting demons and abominations. But then I get "sudd...

I hate it when the game begins well, I find nice equipment, think this could be a nice run - and then I turn a corner on D3 to stand face to face with Ijyb, who happens to have a wand of acid. You block Ijyb's attack. You hit Ijyb but do no damage. Ijyb is moderately wounded. You block Ijyb's attack...

I'm even more covetous about MR or rN, where an extra pip can be the difference between life and death in the mid game. I'm curious; what devastating rN attacks are there in the midgame? ⋅ Nergalle and Josephine ⋅ Hall of Blades in E2 ⋅ Orc Warrior (or any other bloke)...

Siegurt wrote:To flip this on it's head, how would you feel if there was an item that gave you +10 or +26 to some skill?

It would have to cost a couple of thousand gold in a shop.
Well, in fact, if you get a potion of experience early enough in the game, it may well bump one skill from 0 to 10.

Yes, I would take the Robe of Night, which would bring Zero to LOS for the Barachi.

I've been seen buying stuff from a shop like this. Depends on how early in the game I find it. Those gloves look attractive to me.

Tmuts is pretty obnoxious with the miscast changes, I have bladehands at 4% miscast (white) and am sometimes getting turned into badforms like fungus or tree which are potentially lethal if you run out of cancellation potions. At 4% I feel like I should just be able to cast my spell without always ...

Skills supported by manuals max out significantly before other skills, which means that the total experience is spread out between fewer skills, with the same insane aptitudes. Huh. I had assumed that the code to prevent this from happening for gnolls was correct, but now that you've brought it up,...

I am lazy to check the code, but to the best of my knowledge you get 50% of the experience. Thanks for coming up with the right number here. 50%, as I read in a maths book recently, equals roughly half of a given entity - so if you find this "meaningless" and "barely noticeable"...

Because, contrary what svendre beleives, the penalty is actually not meaningful, and barely noticable if you do not know about it. Of course svendre is absolutely right that we should still remove it. To substantiate your statement ("not meaningful"), can you please quantify for us how mu...

Goldifying manuals requires a commensurate change to either gnolls or acquirement. Because gnolls cannot turn off skills, and skills influence acquirement results, possessing a manual for an unwanted skill as a gnoll can be detrimental. So you end up with gnolls wanting to carefully avoid picking u...

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tealizard wrote:An extremely poorly reasoned post, so much so that even addressing it in a serious way would be ridiculous.

It's responses like this that drove me away from this forum for a long time. Why do people do this to each other here?

Ice, I haven't played it much. I used to almost never use it in general. It seems stronger than before. The frozen ramparts spell seems actually way more powerful than many if not all spells at it's spell level range. Hailstorm also seems pretty good. I never liked Glaciate, so putting a spell like...

If I'm not missing something, this would allow full melee heavy armour users to get resistances with a relatively minor XP investment, and melees already require less XP to function than casters. Not sure if it's a bad thing, but incentives this would create feel a bit weird to me in general. Yes, ...

ichbins wrote:Gnolls would like this.

That is a good point. It wouldn't do to give all these benefits as Freebies to Gnolls. But I guess that could be dealt with by adding special rules for Gnolls - such as the idea that all their geeky limitless expertise makes them more sensitive to outward influences.

But the truth is that no single one spell school will get you through the complete dungeon, except possibly Earth, and you will have to diversify somewhat in order to kill everything. Summoning and Necromancy say hi Yes, I guess I needed to qualify my statement: "no single spell school that do...

Earth: starting from skill 10, a point of AC for each new level This is more AC than armour skill usually gives Fair enough - the increments are certainly debatable; you may want to compare them with what old charms spells such as stone skin or Ozo's armour were giving. Ozo's armour is still around...

Here's a suggestion to add player resistances to significant investments into magic schools. The idea here is that if I become adept in ice, fire, poison magic, I can reasonably be expected to also protect myself against the effects of ice, heat or poison. These bonuses should not be given too early...

I just had fought through an ice-statue vault in an ice cave with an Ice elementalist. It was one of the most obnoxious fights I've had in a long time. I ended up killing the statues very slowly with an untrained +1 dagger (with a useless brand) and Ice Beast support. Happened to me, too. Fortunate...

As Shtopit says, it's fun with Chei characters, where having a full bag of MP means that you can kill the screen with generous applications of Shatter. If all of a sudden you find yourself at zero MP, no matter, you kill the folks the hard way. If magic is my only way of killing things, I'd keep my ...

Not quite enough to remove LRD from the Book of Burglary - we probably also need to rename it, as nothing gets deconstructed anymore. What about "Shrapnell"?

Wow, that sounds like fun!

Just 2 1/2 hours? You should be ashamed of yourself, rushing a Chei character so much.

Death's Door and controlled blink sounds like a real stair dance fest. I was under the impression that we weren't encouraged to play this way, at least evidenced that the stairs in tomb were all changed to try and prevent it. No, quite the opposite. If you are a caster with access to level-9 spells...

Death's Door together with controlled blink or ?blink is a better protection against Mummies than Necromutation, in Tomb and in Zigs. No need for special gods.

Along the lines of the original problem of this thread: Cheers to the devs who now have the trunk version maps mark unexplored areas in red. That helps a lot!

Stay away from allies.

And you didn't even cast spells. Sorry.

Siegurt wrote:Hm, I thought the best noob caster species was demigod.

Interestingly, the first game that I ever won was a DgFE. I still don't know why. I have never won a Dg since.

Based on the frequently expressed complaint that nothing in crawl is as difficult as the early game, this would be a welcome addition, and I share Realz' opinion that it would help to attract new players, in the same way as Gargoyles did when they were introduced some years ago.

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