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watertreatmentRL wrote:I realize some people like to interact with corpses

boy howdy do I ever

Tavern isn't, like, some kind of ticket tracking system. Mantis is over here.

Wait, do you mean "what's a stronger start for Mu than Be?"

I'd guess IE, Ne at least.

Also, high-level poison magics could get new spells, like Curare Bolt, Acid Bolt, Corrosive Aura, Sleeping Cloud... The thing I keep coming back to is that there are already SO MANY DAMAGE SPELLS in this game. If poison were gone that would still leave air, earth, fire, ice, pure conj, and the occa...

Alternately, get rid of venom bolt and add parrow to YPH

oh wait pcloud is gone anyhow

The thing is, I don't think anyone would call parrow an annihilation on par with LCS or chain lightning. It's kind of silly that poison magic: * kind of falls off late-game * has some rather awkward multi-school spells (including a couple three-school ones) * has some useful spells that you probably...

For OoFs, dragon form + finesse will give you a boatload of HP and a metric boatload of damage output. If you can get some rF while you're wandering up I suspect you can just dragon wreck them. Edit: Also remember to use heroism for vaguely challenging fights and finesse for when you want to totally...

Saccing arcana is fine as long as you can deal with the results. If you're killing dudes with melee weapons and missiles, you probably don't need so much conjurations and transmutations.

This is really for advice, but you basically always want Kiku's pain weapon blessing. I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest necromutation is the least useful necro spell. Having kiku means you care even less about torment immunity.

svendre wrote:Sadly, it's one of three viable (without massive pain) solutions to cope with damage from mummy curses besides TSO and Makhleb life on kill. Torment is also too strong still imo.

I don't think Torment is too strong at all, there's just too much of it in Tomb.

I also suspect the problem with the 'gimmick' of gnolls as-is is that they're too similar in terms of skills from one game to the next (once you've played a gnoll, the second, third etc. are more similar in terms of game play to each other than two of another race would be), and has nothing to do w...

Gn does serve as a little reminder that just maybe there are more weapon and spell classes than necessary. One thing that appeals to me a lot is that when I'm playing, something happens like finding the Plutonium Sword but it's on V:5 and I have like 24 skill in Axes so it's floor trash and that's f...

For me, Gn sounds perfect because it would keep me from incessantly dicking around in the skill menu.

I understand the idea of making it permanent springs from OP's proposal, but doesn't making it permanent kind of make it a bit powerful to just kinda... pick it up lategame and switch back to whatever god? Torment immunity and rN+++ seems to be worth being vulnerable to dispel undead as long as you...

Ok so here's something like what might be interesting to me as a God capstone: Let's say we make this be Yred, because Yred is the god of permanent allies (which are all kinds of annoying) and "also you get a slightly better animate dead" which is weird because Animate Dead already exists....

Yeah, one wizard on D:9 is a dire emergency, let alone several. Banishment is one of the least terrible things they can do to you. Blink + LCS and paralysis + lightning bolt are both potentially one-hit KOs for a chei char with 100HP. They're a "teleport and skip the level" class of monste...

watertreatmentRL wrote:It's a level 7 spell and constriction damage generally isn't very high.

This spell could do more damage than player/monster constriction, which would help it to be stronger

For what it's worth, I would awfully like to see necromut changed somewhat to make it more useful; I also like the concept of it being a permanent thing. I made the (very widely-panned) suggestion to make this Yred's capstone ability/cost once, back in the day. I still think there's potential there ...

IMO, either gargoyles shouldn't be immune to their clouds, or catoblepases shouldn't try to cloud them.

stuff like this is the reason I still sometimes read tavern

Yeah, crawl isn't a game that really lends itself to 'tanks' in a traditional sense. Pretty much any character with permanent allies will want to 'tank' for them from time to time, but there's not really a character build that gets to just not take damage. Everyone feels Damnation about the same. I ...

Yred zombies should expire just like other zombies. Until I read this thread I assumed they did. Maybe Yred should increase their timeout (or some other buff, like making them walk as fast as you do or something, though neither yred nor zombies really need a buff) but there is a good reason why deri...

HP does work pretty well as one of the components of your defense, though.

I find -tele on items to be deeply irritating, because I forget about it and then want to blink or something and then it's all "haha you need to unwield that"

It's not an important property, but it is an annoying property, and avoiding annoying things is a big part of my crawl strategy.

Yeah, I'm just saying "if you wear-ID an amulet and it's harm, maybe it's not optimal but you don't need to take it off and die to the next adder you see, you can just wear it for a while"

If you have a useful god with normal piety gain mechanics (so: normally), faith is very powerful. Use those god powers! It's not like you can stockpile endless piety.

I also don't get the hate for harm. Normally I'd probably not wear it, but it's not, like, a death sentence.

There's no explanation in the (very old) commit: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/618c8d0d9782a5492dea1999f41d0185f952a88c but I'd expect that and the "swap to this staff for increased hex / enchantment spell power, then switch back for killing dudes or whatever" is pretty un-crawl-li...

Sprucery wrote:I should be able to teleport out from here.

eh, just take the stairs to shoals, I'm sure it'll be fine

I thought berserking monsters yelled sometimes?

Somewhat relatedly: how does wandering monster behavior work? Do they endlessly autoexplore and then forget the level, or something else?

The only ones who could theoretically wander into this "safe" area are monsters which are initially far away so that they didn't hear the noise, but through random walking, wander into the "safe" area. How do wandering monsters travel? I assume it isn't just drunkard's walking, ...

The character can easily die if it finds 4 jackals after opening the door. This is impossible if you go to the right. I'm kind of confused. If you open the door and find jackals or an adder or something appalling, you can probably... close the door? Like, am I missing something? I guess sure there ...

I remember reading that due to monster combat mechanics, it's better to give spears than bardiches to your warlords — weapon delay is more important than base damage. I'm not sure about whether this would be true with ranged weapons as well. My experience a few years ago was that warlords with range...

I'm firmly of the "different spells are good for players and monsters" mindset. A lot of this list is also stuff that players already have access to (the direct damage spells, ensnare is nets / webs, barbs is very similar to poison) and stuff that players used to have access to but have si...

No particular advice, other than a +10 longbow is pretty smashing, even if you're VS and venom brand and *corrode are both kind of annoying. "Diet Blood" is a pretty great name for a randart, too.

I think it does? If I understand that thread correctly, the first monster to act is the first monster to be in some global list of monsters (maybe sorted by monster creation time) who has the needed energy to act. It's not super clear to me if monsters choose an action based on how much energy they ...

Yes (a normal +9 branded arbalest will probably outclass that eventually but for now it is by far the best weapon you have). Really? I'd expect a +5 {elec} arbalest to outdamage a +9 arbalest with anything except {speed} or Damnation. Penetration is nice too, sometimes. Now that you've unwielded it...

One thing to keep in mind with OoD is that yes it's strong but you may (as I do) find it extremely annoying to use.

Did you know that we used to have rings of sustenance (removed in 0.15)? They didn't eliminate hunger but reduced the hunger cost of your actions by 40% (stackable). Huh, I didn't realize they did that; I just thought they lowered your base food consumption rate. Not that it made a lot of practical...

Just use a mace with the current 7.4 skill, or if you find some other crazy great melee weapon, use it unskilled. Doesn't matter if you do crap damage to nonthreatening monsters. You might not have enough arrows for every monster, but you will have more than enough arrows for every dangerous monster.

I don't quite get the transparent walls part of step from reality. It seems like you're trying to preserve scrying, but I don't think you'd use it like scrying -- it's too expensive to use as anything other than an emergency ability, and being able to move while scrying is pretty useful.

Why would you ever train a melee weapon on this character?

I'd still carry and use some kind of mace (or other decent melee weapon) for popcorn monsters. You might not have enough ammo for every orc in the game, and even if you do, picking up all of the bazillion arrows you'll shoot can be annoying. But I also would not train maces any more. Also keep in mi...

duvessa wrote:
njvack wrote:
duvessa wrote:XL doesn't affect accuracy unless you are in certain forms

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauughh
is this like your new catchphrase or

It's the sound I make when learning about unexpected complexity, I need to stop reading your posts on mechanics and looking at the source

One other potential solution would be to open more of the game to overflow altars, but place the same number of altars in total.

duvessa wrote:XL doesn't affect accuracy unless you are in certain forms

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauughh

CBoE? Really? That has always seemed like it's situationally okay in extended when you have a ton of evo and getting more MP is really convenient, but I've never thought it was, like, generally useful. I could see the misc evokables reworked into something that would require a hand (similar to scarv...

Mod note: It's not a particularly similar vein, please put that in its own topic.

Fedhas, because you can cheese the hell out of allies and plants. Also, because Fedhas.

Dith's shadow attack helps missile damage output, though I don't remember how strong that effect is.

Doesn't have to be exact; that's why I said subjectively weak/strong. But I think there is broad general agreement that, say, Fedhas is stronger than Xom.

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