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raukolith wrote:jesus fuck im under penance in a ziggurat

Keep us posted...

delarado wrote:walked one more square

If I could offer one piece of advice to reduce your crawl deaths, it would almost certainly be: "when you see something threatening, don't walk one more square".

+1, give it a go!

I don't think Dr is a good "my first anything" race. You need to do a reasonable amount of thinking on your feet right at the point in the game where new players are having tactical problems, and you need to play differently each game. The new Conjurer is an uncomplicated, fun class - yes ...

TrHu of Elyvilon was probably the most fun cruise through the dungeon I have ever had. Early hydras were hard to pacify, but the starting collection of large rocks did just fine

(Later, getting into boulder duels with various kinds of giant was highly entertaining.)

tasonir wrote:I think vault:5 is designed to force stair dancing anyways

I have stair danced it with some characters, but generally try not to as you are forced to tank a lot of different threats for quite some time. Walking (or better, blinking) out along one of the corridors is much less hairy!

Thank you for explaining the differences between 0.7 and 0.13/trunk, of which I too was surprised to find myself already aware. Very many of those are certainly irrelevant concerns to the poster, who is still at the "unsure of which god to take" stage of the game. I am also aware that 0.7 ...

This is almost certainly a silly question but: why are you playing 0.7?

Magipi wrote:Abyss:1 is unsurvivable unless you are a very strong character above XL 20.

Is my sarcasm detector faulty?

I am not a great player of unarmed characters (though I have a few UC wins, one of them a Troll, I have also splatted many, many characters too), so take my advice for what it is worth. But: Leave shields on the ground, and don't bother with armour skill at all. Walk away from Hydras - they are the ...

To start with, I get UC up to 5 and then focus Transmutations until I can get Spider Form reliable (Poison Magic is so cheap for Octopodes early on it's an efficient way to get there too - at least a couple of levels). You hit harder, you poison things, you get a significant EV boost and can run awa...

delarado wrote:Basically the first one was a piece of cake and the second one just got lucky on the hits.

I think this is backwards - the first one had some unlucky rolls and the second one was a Dire Elephant.

Dire Elephants are jerks.

Ramc wrote:Dungeon X-Com

Please let this, somewhere, be a thing.

battaile wrote:AKA the standard time to do Crypt.

Indeed. Which is to say, in answer to the original post, that nothing has changed in that regard - three-runers can absolutely do it

I have no beef with the current trunk Abyss. I actually think it's pretty cool (although this last week my game is crashing in it, so I am learning to to play TOME. The price of the bleeding edge!)

My feeling: New Crypt is significantly more entertaining than old crypt, but not significantly more deadly. My last character (conjurator, no Necromancy) did it before he had any runes.

Go for it.

DeathKnyte wrote:Trog's hand

Oh yeah, that!

If you're within cat swinging distance of a banisher, spam it like a spammy thing.

Hey, welcome to the forums. Don't give up yet! 1. Getting Abyssed when you're not ready is definitely a disaster (although not as fatal as it first looks). Try not to do that! As mentioned, MR is great and probably the most important, but also stay out of Elf, and just stay far away from the handful...

Grimm wrote:It's summer, go outside.

It's British summer, going outside is not always possible. I made six skydives on Saturday, but the sunshine can't last.

At which point, I'll need video games!

The Royal Jelly? Or do I remember that wrong?

btw it is kind of silly how some particular spider entrance vaults (like this one) are probably the most dangerous thing you are likely to find on lair 1-6, especially since if you don't autoexplore you can avoid them entirely but if you do autoexplore you can't Yeah. I don't autoexplore Lair any m...

Identify wands by zapping them at a weak enemy (or a wall or yourself in a safe situation if it didn't work), don't waste scrolls on them To do this most efficiently, slightly injure a weak enemy, then get it between you and a diggable wall at a 45 degree angle. That way: You identify digging becau...

Help. My current game is segfaulting in the Abyss going for Rune #5 (bug #7238). I have a couple of other characters at about XL17 (SpAK, DrNe) who are not in the Abyss but have kind of lost interest in them. A bugfix may be a while coming. I can be patient. What should I play in the meantime? Last ...

Acid Blobs are jerks.

Farewell Sludge Elves... you were undistinguished and not really good at much but I'm gonna miss you.

I love it when the first cloak I find in tiles mode matches the first ego robe (+2 robe of magic resistance {Sigmund}) and now I'm running round in matching red kit with a gold sash and everything. Heh, that's amusing. I thought I was quirky in trying on just different (no brands or pluses) robes, ...

I really considered the potion of speed to escape, however I knew that jumping spiders are capable of blinking right next to me and tangling me in cobweb Not fast, though! They won't go from "Jumping spider X squares away" to "you are tangled up and dead", while you are hasted. ...

I can't remember who said it, but one of the best pieces of Crawling advice I ever saw was: always carry one potion of speed, and stash the rest so they don't get destroyed. Running away is winning! Prism was certainly the wrong choice, but dying with a source of haste unused is the worst/most frust...

I love it when I build trunk in the morning, and immediately run into something so new it doesn't even have a tile.

(Elemental wellspring, cool 8-)

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roctavian wrote:"awesome bikeshedding-related bandnames"

Bike Shed Seven.

I'm glad I had 200HP when I discovered the same thing last night.

Jory is definitely in the "stop and think very hard on sight" group now.

Also, Megadeth's Bike Shred should totally be a thing.

quokkabarning Quokka Barn. This is the eventual source of Spammals... it's an endless branch, like the Abyss, with the spawn rates cranked up to eleven. Only one level, containing the Pouched Rune of Zot. Summon Small Mammals creates a one-time, short lived gateway to the overcrowded Quokka Barn, a...

Styro wrote:It is always exciting to hit a floor that is different (a mostly lava floor for example).

This seems to be getting better... current trunk lower dungeon looks like it's been spruced up quite a bit.

Speaking of castles, Mennas seems to have a vault full of angelics now. Next time I see a huge steel funny-shaped thing taking up half the level, with a sealed door on it, it's staying sealed.

(Cool vault though.)

Also, Jory is not necessarily just found in his castle, and he has LCS

Revenants can be Rapidly Deconstructed.

Mara clones should have cloney flavour quotes.

I love it when I'm standing around blowing people up with LRD... and eventually get to the other side of the wall I've been using for fuel and find a pile of random corpses there too :lol: I love it even more when the same thing happens again only moar awesome. LRD vs Norris gives me Arachne as uns...

Lantern is also useful in the Abyss. Actually it's useful to reduce LOS in lots of places!

I don't actually find much of current Crawl boring (other than Orc, a little, sometimes) - although dpeg's point about buff spamming is well taken.

The Lernaean Hydra actually does exist. (Seriously in over nine hundred games I had never seen it before (I've had that Swamp ending, but never actually ran into it for some reason). Just now it came out and bit a large number of chunks out of me, causing me to burn the only scroll of blinking I've ...

I love it when I'm standing around blowing people up with LRD... and eventually get to the other side of the wall I've been using for fuel and find a pile of random corpses there too :lol:

Sif will also give you Poison Arrow, and has at least one cool Mummy-specific mechanic

Do not go into the Slime Pits, even for a second, without Clarity (or really good MR). I just stuck my head in for a look - admittedly this is very unfortunate, but - in the first turn encountered four golden eyes which took turns chain-confusing me (I only had six potions of curing) while a series ...

Never learned it before now (I have these epiphanies from time to time): Leda's Liquefaction is really strong.

I love it when the first cloak I find in tiles mode matches the first ego robe (+2 robe of magic resistance {Sigmund}) and now I'm running round in matching red kit with a gold sash and everything.

A couple in quick succession, both with frankly wonderful names:

1) The +4, +5 mace of Dung (elec, +Inv, rC+, STR +3 SInv)
2) Biopom's Incunabulum of Dusty Confrontation (Magic Dart, Sting, Stone Arrow, Iron Shot, Lehudib's Crystal Spear)

I shall put both of these to use immediately 8-)

As others have said, Iron Shot has worked well for me. Just the usual things - don't fight more than one, haste up if you have it, and make sure you have enough mana to soak up the misses

I'm entirely self-taught. I started learning from ZX Spectrum magazines when I was 7 (back then most computer magazines regularly featured simple programs you could type in and run). By the time I was taking computer science at school I knew things the teachers didn't. +1 (not a Crawl developer, I ...

Don't forget gold acquirement!

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