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Mm, what about if only yellow and red names drop consumables? Then no more farming easy mobs or stashing them for later.

Hmm good point. maybe make it so items don't drop if too many turns passed since entering the level?

Rast wrote:That would be an interesting game but it would not be Crawl.

I tried this argument on devs before for changes i thought was non crawl like. They seem immune to it so im not really worried about it.

Im not proposing keeping the player in constant supply. In fact its the opposite, enforced non constant supply. Any time u use an item your # of that item would reduce to zero, and it would be a long time in game before another one of that item drops, leaving you in a vulnerable spot. Contrast this ...

My proposal is as follows: 1) The player can only hold a certain number of each consumable (generally, one). 2) Consumables only generate by being dropped by slain monsters 3) After a consumable drops it will disappear after X number of turns (short enough to avoid hypothetical-optimal strategies li...

Been playing hellcrawl for the past few days and the XP crunch definitely makes the game more difficult. However, the lack of items is the part I find more interesting, from a player standpoint. Lack of exp is very binary. Either I knew from experience (lol) how much experience there is in the game,...

cool find. Any way to get the sound working on other servers?

Yeah, the ammo amounts seem ridiculous. I understand everything mulches now but damn. Maybe the numbers were too high in vanilla to begin with.

Makhleb seems mollified.

In all seriousness, i think "use X times per Y levels" is a little...... un-Crawl-like. Idk, doesnt seem there are any other abilities that work this way except felid extra lives. Maybe just make players start with a haste potion, remove all non potion sources of haste and reduce haste pot...

Well, I'm not going to try it but I don't like it. Imo players should not have "one reliable emergency option even on D:1". Crawl needs more early game unavoidable deaths, not less. I don't even remember the last time I experienced an unavoidable death, disregarding Xom. Im autistic so it...

Wait, wand of acid doesnt already lower enemy ac? Then what the hell did you even put it in the game for? To trick us? To teach us a valuable lesson that "nothing is ever intuitive"...? Do u know how many times i already acid wanded things thinking i could melee them down easier? ...... >=0

Thanks bro, playing now.

I like channeling, but i gotta agree with other posters that divine energy seems needlessly complex. +10 MP and partial/full immunity to MP drain would do the same thing without the need for active ability.

Well i guess that's one way to make the game shorter.

VeryAngryFelid wrote:Well, casting a fireball at adjacent monster in corridor is not fun

Implying one wouldnt use sticky flame

My hellcrawl save on project 357 wont load =/ Any way to fix?

Pretty much the response i expected

So are you two gonna do anything about poison magic / food / consumables / luring / stairdancing / the game being too long?

Dpeg: most of the un-fun things about crawl would be less un-fun if players dont have to do them over... And over... And over... Shortening the game will be good, in particular shortening the length of time the player spends dealing with any given set of surroundings, monsters, obstacles... Pacing i...

Shorten all the branches by a lot and dont increase xp/item generation to compensate.

Dungeon: 10 floors
Everything else: 2 floors

Make abyss/pan not give any items or xp.

Boom, everything solved.

Ya soul eater not currently scary enough to justify its scary tile

Hey OP Im playing on CPO, im gonna play your fork for as long as u update.

Vanilla DCSS is just too long and grindy for my tastes. Thanks for the effort bro.

Could just make the buff disappear if you unwield the protstick. In fact, if that isn't already the case, i'll be surprised.

There is a certain threshhold of length/monotony beyond which a game becomes a test of patience/endurance/concentration moreso than a test of skill/strategy... and I think vanilla crawl is well beyond that threshold. To put it another way, it would be vastly better to have the 'difficulty' of crawl ...

make items not generate in pan/abyss

make pan shorter

hellmonk pls

That's such a cool proposal it should just take over the main game.

Dungeon Fortress: Stone Citadel.

Is haste wand still going to be in the game?

But you just said you were worried about her. I guess you're confused. But then, Ash prevents confusion, which explains why you don't seem distressed by any of this.

So like... Shouldnt we maybe combine some of the less dangerous monsters on the list, or cut them from the game entirely?

And/or remove 2-3 floors from each branch?

And/or reduce # of consumables?

And/or remove food?

arandomperson12 wrote:I lost a large chunk of my health, and ran away.

Good man.

You could do what i do and use force_more_message for low hp, distortion, holy wrath, banishers, blowgun/wand users etc. Then when that stops being useful because you just habitually hit space every turn you can use screen_flash_message. Then when that stops being useful because your mind just auto ...

Nah but seriously the frog idea sounds good to me.

Maybe someone should make a list of just how hard a monster is to fight if you insist on fighting it and not resetting the fight or running/avoiding. They could call it... HD... And even add it to the wiki for all to see...

Some stuff that are weird even by minmayish standards: [*]Unseen horror. These are overrepresented in online stats because most players don't know what batty movement is. If you do know, only OOD unseen horrors should be a problem. [*]Spark wasp. The danger level of a spark wasp at its native depth...

How do you feel about the fact that the strongest threats players experience are all early game? Good, bad, neutral?

Make him an exploration themed god instead of pacifist that way you can give him more abilities and players can still kill stuff.

One problem is that crawl already throws an aggravatingly unnecessary number of monsters at you. Removing the XP gain from killing them makes them purely an inconvenience which is likely to cause players to kinda... wake up to the fact that the game is too long. Which is already fairly annoying prob...

This feels way too bland to me. Like it literally is just summoner that gets some free hp and mp. Its not even really clear that the hp and mp will really help since if somethings getting past your summon wall then its also not getting killed by your summons and you cant fight back With the mp anywa...

Damn I love this post. Anywho, I would settle for either option at this point. Less consumables or shorter game. But if I had to choose, definitely shorter game. I introduced a good friend to DCSS. He loved the game for a while because of the strategic tension of the early/midgame, and the lack of O...

More bad ass dragons is never a bad thing, damnit.

Its important to understand that blink TPs you to a random tile in range in your LOS. So if there's a lot of monsters chasing you, and you round the edge of a corridor or wall so you break LoS with the monsters, and then blink, you have a much better chance of arriving at a safe area. Instead of jus...

This game needs a ghost dragon that breathes ghostly flame.

Hellmonk wrote:
PleasingFungus wrote:
Hellmonk wrote:Feature request: give full xp for summons/ally kills because it is neither a "necessary balance tool" nor an effective balance tool, and summons/allies should probably be balanced by actually balancing summons and allies.

i agree. patches welcome

Sent :^)

the absolute madman

Why a short sword, if it's a glaive? To make it easier for some dev to copy paste the stats. If wanted, it could have slightly better stats. Dam 8, Hit+4, Speed 10 (better dmg than rapier, same accuracy and speed as dagger). Edit: lol im dumb i forgot there was a glaive polearm. Let me edit the OP.

+ 6 Antimagic glaive 33% chance of casting Yara's violent unravelling on hit (player immune to damage from the effect) Can be evoked to cause "cancellation" on player (same chance and evocations bonus as cloak of invis) MR++ Drain on unequip Enables kinda-sorta a new playstyle where you ca...

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I guess we'll just never know for sure.

...So it's the opposite of a Vampire (Immune to Torm and Dispel Undead at once, instead of Vulnerable to both). Early/Mid Game this race sounds fairly strong, but pretty boring comparable to Hu, primarily. (boring fairly average apts only particularly good at Necro and Transmutations/Unarmed). Late...

goodcoolguy wrote:New monster: Dashboard hula girl,

merfolk lol

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