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Skills: +2 Earth Magic, -2 Air Magic Resists: Immediate +5 to AC; does not need to breathe, and is thus immune to drowning and noxious fumes and resistant to asphyxiation. Movement: Amphibious (Can enter deep water, but will incur the penalties from shallow water.)' Grey Draconians have no breath w...

Well, #125 fared well enough, and went deeper than any before him, although not even close to the highest XP. Very strange, and more than a little annoying. 12 to 14 was as much work as 1 to 12. The death was so stupid. Just a couple of really bad luck blinks, and it was all over, after clearing mos...

I thank you both. Do you do ttyrecs? If so, take a look at my current character (#124), and you'll see how I play him: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Aule/2014-07-06.02:00:30.ttyrec ). His current stats (soon to change since I'm playing tonight): Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1-25-g305bac...

Sorry to hear that. Ugh! I cannot even imagine the heartbreak.

I have evolved to training a lot of spellcasting on DEWz and SpWz for the rationale below. [snip] I appreciate your taking my side on this. I pretty much agree with all of it, but am too unfamiliar to explain it. I just want to add that high spellcasting is cheap for a DE, since he has a natural +3...

I actually like Deep Elf Wizards and think DEWz of Veh is a reasonably good build. I'd echo what others are saying about training enough Spellcasting to get you spellslots, but otherwise focus more on (1) the spell schools, and (2) melee and defense skills: e.g., short blades or staff, dodging, fig...

How can a Wizard overtrain Spellcasting? Spellcasting lowers spell hunger, increases spell power, and determines not only max MP, but also available spell levels. Considering the effect of Spell Power only adds to it attractiveness. According to the wiki, it determines "damage, range, duration,...

The first thing I tried was mephing him, and even after he stood in the cloud, he was unaffected. I read the teleporation after "it was too late," as you defined it. Had the several wands and over 8 in evocations, but I almost literally never think to use wands in battle unless they're has...

Sar wrote:I'm not sure I would call a staff of energy a desirable acquirement result myself.

I ended up using it on jewelry, got an artefact amulet that had a +Rage and -2 Int. Pfft. Character's dead anyway.

Thanks all for the advice. Next one gets read without question.

#122 R.I.P. I seem to hit an iron-clad brick wall at around this level. Character had no chance against Nessos, and was running away. Basic survival items like blinking scrolls should be more plentiful than they are, IMO. An uncontrolled blink could only bring him even closer to Nessos during the at...

When should I use it? My current character is XL10, and I think it's too early, but I don't really know.

Has anyone yet coined the term, "winscumming"?

there are no yellow potions until I identify them Unknown potions can be described as "yellow potion". Oh... D'oh! Thanks, Sar. Yes, now I understand. I tend to read ID scrolls on them, and read scrolls with more than one to ID those if ID scrolls are limited. I may lag a few turs between...

what in the world was that??? That was a bunch of "goddamned bats": NAME: goddamned_bats DEPTH: D:3-5 # Sadly, for size-based ones, only mega, micro and giga exist. Lack of kilo # and tera is understandable, but come on, even mili is lacking. KMONS: 1 = bat name:megabat n_rpl n_des n_spe ...

Skilling advice: go to manual mode (/), turn off Fighting, Dodging, Stealth, Spellcasting and Fire Magic. Train only Conj for a while. Identify the yellow potion, and read the scrolls. That actually was manual training. :D And for how long is "a while"? [strikethough]And, umm, there are n...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1-24-gbdbe590 (webtiles) character file. Aule the Magician (Deep Elf Wizard) Turns: 5576, Time: 00:44:59 HP 39/39 AC 4 Str 6 XL: 7 Next: 26% MP 33/33 EV 14 Int 23 God: Gold 178 SH 0 Dex 13 Spells: 6 memorised, 5 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis . m - +2 scythe ...

Meanwhile, there's this, my 112th attempt. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1-24-gbdbe590 (webtiles) character file. Aule the Covert (Deep Elf Wizard) Turns: 15332, Time: 02:18:22 HP 60/60 AC 9 Str 10 XL: 11 Next: 0% MP 32/32 EV 20 Int 24 God: Vehumet [****..] Gold 114 SH 0 Dex 14 Spells: 7 mem...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1-24-gbdbe590 (webtiles) character file. 208 Aule the Thaumaturge (level 5, -1/33 HPs) Began as a Deep Elf Wizard on July 1, 2014. Killed from afar by Sigmund (4 damage) ... with a puff of flame ... on Level 2 of the Dungeon. The game lasted 00:13:00 (1908 turn...

Well, this one's not so bad, despite, you know, training all those skills. You were about to tele, and gargoyles can be a nasty surprise. Why not try another combo? I should be able to win with any combo I choose. If one is exceedingly less fruitful than others, then I feel it should either be buff...

All right. Well, I guess I'm done. Thank you all for your kindnesses. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1-24-gbdbe590 (webtiles) character file. 5330 Aule the Thaumaturge (level 10, -8/58 HPs) Began as a Deep Elf Wizard on June 30, 2014. Was a Follower of Sif Muna. Killed from afar by a gargoyle...

Here we had the governor signing warrants left and right: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1-24-gbdbe590 (webtiles) character file. 446 Aule the Magician (level 6, -2/34 HPs) Began as a Deep Elf Wizard on June 30, 2014. Engulfed by a cloud of flame (5 damage) ... on Level 4 of the Dungeon. The ...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1-24-gbdbe590 (webtiles) character file. 65862 Aule the Thaumaturge (level 14, -13/71 (74) HPs) Began as a Deep Elf Wizard on June 28, 2014. Was the Champion of Sif Muna. Shot with an arrow by a centaur warrior (24 damage) ... on Level 13 of the Dungeon on June...

Well, major congrats!

I'd say the best effect of Veh for DEWz would be getting some hard-hitting spells as soon as possible. Sif only starts gifting at ******, and yeah, following Sif enforces some bad skilling choices. Regardless, I'd adivse you to at least try the gods I mentioned if you find their altairs soon enough...

Regarding god choice: I feel like Sif is a bad choice on this character, you already get a truckload of MP by being a DEWz, and Sif piety mechanics require annoying skill choices. Well, yes, but one side effect of my overtraining spells has been rapid piety advancement with her. Vehumet is the bett...

I tend to prefer conjurers because the starting spellbook can take you to level 20 without much problems. You'd rather get some better bolt spells if you can, but IMB + battlesphere lasts roughly forever ;) In any case, you don't need as much spellcasting as you had, and you shouldn't be training s...

I would recommend against playing DEWz, I don't even think that combo is particularly good. One of perks of being DE is that you have huge Int and huge spell schools aptitudes - for magic backgrounds this means you can get your heavy hitting spells online very fast and break shoot the rats with a h...

Dodging (EV), stealth (more chances for enemies not to notice you), and fighting (HP) are all reasonable. Evocations if you have something useful to evoke. If all my aux slots are filled, maybe I'd even train enough armour to get 1 point of AC. I'm not sure I would train a weapon skill at this poin...

Training a bit more spellcasting than you strictly need for the spell levels can make sense sometimes, but 13.6 levels on this character was really exorbitant. It works a lot better if you train the spell schools very little, since 4 points of spellcasting also give a spell power and miscast boost ...

Wizard starting book is really good and can easily take one through Lair (and beyond). I do hope you're kidding. Easily, he said. :lol: Had I any spell with any more oomph, I am sure the hydra wouldn't have made it across five fire tiles. Starting spell book is pretty awful for doing Lair. I never ...

Here was attempt number 103 at ascending a DEWz. Note how far this one descended and the numbers and kinds of monsters he vanquished using only the book of Minor Magic. Since no other book was ever found, of course. That spear was at least half responsible, though. Block enemies with Conjure Flame, ...

Well, whatever it was (that persisted for days) now seems to be fixed. So, thank you, whomever or whatever made it better.

12-15 seconds to go upstairs. 5 seconds for magic dart to fire. Real slo-mo. Didn't used to be like this. Anything I can do to improve this online? I already tried setting the rc file setting for delay, to no effect.

Okay, this game is just plain nuts. D:5 has found gnoll packs, including sergeants and shamans, orc packs with wizards and shamans along with their pet ogres, ogre skeletons, and more, around every corner, and in every room. I've never seen anything so absurdly difficult. Yet, my level 8 DEWz is sti...

Yes, you must respect death yaks: they are not a monster to take lightly! I too have had the experience that they die frustratingly slowly to Freezing Cloud. Fortunately, that character was a mummy, and was spamming infinite butterflies to keep the Yaks from moving closer to me. :) Although from th...

Number 96 is dead. Dammit. Death Yaks + wide open space = aggravation for DEWz Damn good loot this game, too. Can't carry it all, so it's in the Temple. Was. <cry> Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1-24-gbdbe590 (webtiles) character file. 41317 Aule the Eclecticist (level 13, -8/63 HPs) Began as...

Thank you Patashu, and everyone else who's offered advice. Attempt number 95 had an interesting and unusual spate of randarts in the low levels, once of which includes SInv, so at least for this iteration I'm good, but I'll remember the tips for when this one dies and I have to start again. :P Dunge...

Sorry, I wasn't exactly clear. There were at least three of them. I think more likely four or more. It was a little field in the middle of the Labyrinth, a few plants and a small pile of gold in the middle to lure you in. Once I got to the open space, it was immediately surrounded, and didn't stand ...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1-24-gbdbe590 (webtiles) character file. 17786 Aule the Thaumaturge (level 12, -3/62 HPs) Began as a Deep Elf Wizard on June 18, 2014. Was a High Priest of Sif Muna. Slain by an unseen horror (11 damage) ... in a labyrinth on June 19, 2014. The game lasted 03:0...

My last character died after another very promising start, from a single hit of 46 damage (ouch, indeed): Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1-24-gbdbe590 (webtiles) character file. 42911 Aule the Thaumaturge (level 13, -4/63 HPs) Began as a Deep Elf Wizard on June 16, 2014. Was a High Priest of ...

Hey Aule, welcome to Crawl. :) You seem pretty dedicated. I am certain that if you don't give up, you'll win one. I just get the vibe that you have that kind of fortitude and passion for this game. It's nice to see someone like that. ^^ I'll keep my eyes out for a victory post from you one day. I'l...

Well, it only takes me ~8 hours real time to do a 3 rune win, and I play a bit slow/cautious. Someone with more compressed play than me could do it in 4 - and in fact, top tier players can do a 3 rune win in under 2 hours, because they know what demands their attention and can spam otab the rest of...

As of this post, there are a bit over 8000 online deaths of xl 27 characters. You never become invincible, just get a bigger buffer and more options for keeping yourself alive :) So you have to stay careful from xl1 to xl27. In particular, if you do extended, ziggurats, etc. many of the threats are...

I was banished to the abyss by Erolcha, I managed to survive a fair bit due to xom's summons but eventually I died. On later dungeon levels do you commonly get banished to the abyss or is it just my luck? :cry: This is my best character so far and he was doing SO WELL, any tips to avoid getting scr...

I thought I'd spectate a game or two, so I watched a level 27 DsFi complete level 25 of the Ziggurat this AM. Seemed pretty smooth, and then he proceeded to 26, where he hit some snags. The character ended up dying before my very eyes. He was holding 15 runes. I can't even imagine, and clearly my pa...

Yet another piece of idiocy, yes. As explanation, I had been in conservation mode. The battle began not just with Snorg, but was ending with him. Once the rest were vanquished, and the potion of magic imbibed, there was no reason for me not to use Fireball. Brainless. Anyway, here's his replacement:...

89 just bit the dust, after an exceptionally easy start. I had plenty of potions, scrolls and even a Book of Flames found on D3. I could want for nothing (except maybe more ID scrolls and gourmand), so it was with agony that I killed this character. I'm just too risk-taking for this crap. There was ...

18877 | Orc:4 | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. [mutagenic glow] 24756 | D:11 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in iridescent scales (AC +4). [mutagenic meat] 24856 | D:11 | Gained mutation: You have a fast metabolism. [mutagenic glow] 29739 | D:12 | Ga...

Yes, I see one of his malmutations came from a neqoxec, because the notes named it. The lair was insanely difficult, but I tried it anyway. Looking at the notes again, there is this from my first foray: 24792 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 24792 | Lair:1 | Noticed FecalFinger's gho...

Wasn't wearing Stasis. Looking back over the notes, all I can tell was that it happened on D12. Perhaps severe contamination or miscast? I was unaware when it happened, as I don't always read back the messages, and they often scroll off too fast to read. I was unhappily surprised when I realized I h...

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