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I just started one too, but I got very lucky - by D:6 I've found, on the floor, the Book of Conjurations AND the Book of Power, so I don't need to wait until having ****** piety to get those!

V does have some appeal for a FE, the extra range, blastiness, and mp for kills. But yeah, not being guaranteed several nice fire spells is annoying. SpEE does work pretty well. SpAE also synergizes well, you can use spriggan speed to set up and abuse multizapping. Interesting about SpEE and SpAE. ...

Yes, that's what I do too. The question is, it seems to me that counting on casting anything above L6 regularly is not guaranteed, so which school is best for relying on L6 and below spells? I forgot above to add "Poison Arrow" as a pro for VM. After going through the exercise of writing t...

I've been on a mania for Spriggans + Vehumet lately. I'm trying to figure out though the best way to start and run them, particularly in regards to spell hunger and esp. with higher-level spells - Spriggans make great blasters except that it's not really sustainable to keep blasting away with spells...

I tend to stash on Lair 1 and have never had an issue with anything wandering off. I've also read that the best players don't bother with stashing at all. Stashing seems to be something that's done by non-top-tier players because they think it's important to do, but it's not really. Between the issu...

Are ego items at least guaranteed to be runed / glowing? Yes Okay, that's good. Typically all I care about is finding an ego weapon. It's not worth trying to id non-ego weapons for bonuses because you'll probably find an ego weapon in the early game at some point anyway, which will make any non-ego...

Are ego items at least guaranteed to be runed / glowing? I hope so, because I don't want to have to start wield-testing every mundane weapon in the hopes of finding a protection brand for my squishy SpWz.

Item destruction would not be a good solution, it would just encourage players to carry as much as they possibly can in case they might need that item later. Lots of good ideas in here though. I'd like the reduction of floor trash. Another related issue: after a big battle, autoexplore makes me run ...

Oh well, killed by an alligator of all things after this. Wasn't paying attention to it because I was only worried about the bone dragon that was chasing me.

My last promising SpFE was ignominiously one-shotted by Nikola. So when my next one bumped into him sleeping next to a staircase right when I came down, I was overcome with rage and toasted his ass. Fortunately, this time I had a staff of air which gave me rElec, so I equipped that, quaffed Haste an...

I think Napkin was the one who installed or activated the Thanks function.

What are thick feet good for?

I'd go for it. You'll still have one !cmut. With all those good mutations, you probably won't want to risk removing them until you have two or three really bad mutations. That may not ever happen, or not for a long time, by which you may have found either an rmut amulet or more potions.

I'd really like just a percentage, e.g. my fireball is 70% of the maximum potential damage that fireball can ever do.

Man, this game is so obtuse. The player is shown a power rating in ######. But that is just an approximation of a scale of 1-200. But even that is not a linear scale, it has gradations at unknown points. And add to that yet that each spell has a different base calculation like 1d8 vs. 2d28.

Thanks. So the power bars are not an absolute measure I guess, it's really a scale of 0-200?

Unfortunately as a Spriggan I can't wield a staff with a buckler. I've also now got fireball castable without any hunger, and the enhancer is still boosting that.

Suppose I have flame tongue or throw flame at max #######'s. Does a staff of fire do anything for them? My situation is that I found a randart flail with rF++ rC- rElec rN+ and a randart buckler with rPois MR - is it worth forgoing the staff of fire for all those resists esp when my main spells righ...

I know there's been some change to the fighting skill. What's the received wisdom for how high to train it on a SpEN?

It used to be "train fighting to at least 5 for a bit of extra HP" but I understand there's been a nerf on the HP bonus? What is fighting good for now?

I initially discovered Crawl when the only thing around was Linley's final release of the original Dungeon Crawl, that must have been 7-8 or even more years ago? I can't recall when I discovered the DCSS reincarnation, I think it was around 0.4 or so. Really though it's a continuation of a life-long...

Good or bad, thanks for your suggestion and the thought you've put into it, inkydood. Hill Orcs are a perfectly viable race without Beogh, and many players like crate like to play them but to not follow Beogh, so I'm guessing this idea won't get much traction. However, don't let this discourage you....

What format does the tile need to be in? PNG? How big?

Yeah, I don't mind the danger represented by Abyss, but all the liquid plus the map rot and map shifting make it a real pain in the arse and very tedious to find the exit.

I think the main problem with the Orb run is that it's essentially a long run. IMHO, what happens afte you pick up the Orb should be brief and spectacular. It could even be another fight - like maybe you have to pass through a chamber equivalent to Level 10-15 of a Zig. One big last fight would be b...

Is it possible to get banished to the Something Awful forums?

Why does anyone use that forum still?

But what else will go in the Book of Party Tricks in its place?

Has the Fuhrer been informed? I wouldn't want to be in the room when he finds out...

As far as race class combos go, I would suggest a ghoul fighter of okawaru for a fun combo. Go claws and just rip everything up and eat them. Okas heroism ability works well with unarmed+shield and with a bit of luck you could get a good armor gift. Your undead status makes you immune to poison and...

I've read a few times recently that it's a good idea to set autofight to a higher percentage, e.g. so you stop auto-fighting earlier. Should that higher level (I think 50% HP was recommended?) be made a default? I think it makes more sense to use a conservative default, and let reckless players redu...

I hate having to eat chunks multiple times per D level, I basically only play spriggans now for that reason, even more so than for their speed.

I just meant it would be terrifying when it happened, not merely annoying.

Right now I mostly don't notice shapeshifters until they're dead and I notice that the corpse does not match what I just killed, so for me they don't add much to the game.

I believe Nethack was the same - you get the amulet of Yendor and then have to bring it back up to the surface. It would be okay if DCSS didn't copy the same basic mechanism. Or maybe it's a roguelike essential? The orb run, at its core, means the traversal of 32 levels of dungeon. It's like an exte...

I don't know. This is essentially a mechanic that's already in the game, it's just another way to accomplish it.

I guess so, but less annoying and more just terrifying.

This would make shapeshifters a bit more interesting - first, they show up as something completely harmless, like jackal or something. But when you kill them (or on 1st hit?), instead of dying, they turn into something frickin' nasty. After that point they behave as now, randomly changing and healin...

I think it would be better if we just accepted that the game has to end at some point. Eventually, the crawl is over. It might as well be when you get the orb or very shortly after. However, what the heck: How about just giving the orb irresistible +MUT? That should make the run a little more intere...

Whatever. I just kill them. They rarely present a problem or much interest.

I think it would be cool if when you picked up the Orb, you were transported or had access to a portal to another level. Before entering, you see the dungeon collapse in ruin. Once in, it'd be some grandiose hall where you walk past all the uniques you killed and runes you collected and then you tak...

Why didn't they just make poison chunks give nutrition? I guess the point of poisonous corpses is to limit somewhat the amount of food in the game. But if they did give nutrition, that would give hungry characters an "interesting choice" - I could eat this kobold and burn a potion of curin...

I actually find shapeshifters a bit boring - it's rare that they change into something that's suddenly a problem.

Even just if each shift was guaranteed to be into something tougher, that would be something, even if not situationally appropriate necessarily.

Sometimes in a fantasy movie when the evil wizard is slain or whatever, their whole keep comes crashing down because I guess the evil magic holding it together is gone or whatever. DCSS could do something like this and have something like LRD be randomly cast in their vicinity blowing up walls, or l...

I think it's good that it does. It gives shapeshifters a bit more of a purpose / challenge. This would make them less interesting / different from other monsters.

If you have cure poison, can't you just eat a poisonous chunk and then cure yourself? This would be: 1) Butcher 2) Eat 3) Cast cure poison That's assuming the game lets you eat poisonous chunks, I don't know if I've ever tried. I guess a simple mechanic could be for Cure Poison to apply to any chunk...

Just going through the list of existing spellbooks on the Wiki (which in this regard seems to be a bit out of date, at least the main list of spellbooks at http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Spell_books), I identify only a few books that have spells in the appropriate level ranges: Book of ...

pubby wrote:Anyway, I think a "Morpher" that starts with a book of morphology and a wand of polymorph would be interesting. Giving them summon butterflies as a starting spell would also be interesting as they can polymorph them into more useful allies.

Neat idea!

Letting my escapist thread die, here's another question, more open-ended: Of the existing spellbooks which are not currently available as starting equipment, which is the most likely candidate for an interesting new class? As an example, in the other thread I suggested that the Book of Burglary migh...

Yeah maybe.

Incidentally, I just rolled up a warper. I keep thinking this is a class I should like, but I just don't find them very fun actually.

Sort of. Gimped in magic, but then buffed (relative to sorcerer) in mundane skills / equipment.

Another approach to finding a new niche between hybrids with strong magic and completely non-magical classes would be to just use L1 spells. The point though would be to find the right balance. So for instance in comparison to an Arcane Marksman - yes, this would have crappier spells. But it would h...

Some further, more basic thoughts: I think what I'm interested in isn't necessarily a thief type or escaping type character. Mostly I'm just interested in figuring out a new starting class that fills a new niche. It's not a small challenge and I'm interested in others thoughts about possibilities. W...

Crawl is one of those games that focuses on defeating and comes from the ancient days of "kill monster = win". Well, I'm not saying this is a bad thing, either. At some point, Crawl is what it is, and if you want a thief game, play a different game. The rouguelikes I've played based on a ...

There's not really much difference between "exploring" this idea "exploring" the idea of a cooking skill. You've already been told by three developers - in a row, at that - why it's a bad idea at a fundamental level. Continuing to pursue it is far more insulting to those people ...

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