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Nonono. This isn't supposed to turn into a list of all the uniques and why each individual ones are dangerous. >_>

This is the MOST dangerous uniques. I've never died to Aizul. I've never been threatened by him. Snorg, though, that guy is ridiculous. I don't see Yuif belonging on the list.

Generally the only time I start-scum with a DS is when I'm at XL3 and I still haven't gotten a mutation. -_-

TGW wrote:Monster shouting should take a turn. It would solve stuff like this and buff offensive stealth, plus it's symmetrical.

It doesn't already? That's horrible. It takes a turn for players, why isn't it the same for them?

If you die on D1, it's not because it was challenging, it's because there was a donk with a wand of blah that killed you in one hit, or you came across a group of gnolls and you're a naga and maybe slower than them, I don't know. My point being, D1 is not a reasonable gauge as to the effectiveness o...

... Then strongly consider quitting. You can clear D1 throwing trash you find with any background, any race.

Staves, as a weapon class, do need more options. They have (lumping the magical ones together) a total of three. This is not necessarily a buff, it's just evening out the field so staves are more equal.

I don't know if it's considered a 'novel', but The Necronomicon is decent.

Keep in mind that, for some reason, he's only talking about completing D1 easily. Like it's usually supposed to be so challenging, you know? The other day I kicked a pebble pretty easily, my shoes must be overpowered. I should probably stick to just wearing socks to make it fair.

Holy bejeezus. Hopefully you've got a teleport or blink to get you out of there.

Yeah... often I wish the food cost of berserking were reduced or removed in place of something else; anything else, really. But I know damn well that'll never happen. :p

Except, I don't think anybody really cares about a stack of five +0 stones. This idea, however, actually has people that want it, because it'll be fun. And ultimately, that's the point, right? Playing the game because it's fun?

I'm fine with that, assuming the monk had a choice as to if they were going to be using fists or staves.

Part of the reason Crawl is awesome is because you can start as a monk or gladiator and at some point pick up a spellbook awesome enough to make that person want to branch out, and -he can-. And another part of Crawl being so awesome is that you can decide not to use any spells at all, and still yo...

Well of course that's your bias of melee classes. As it stands, it's infinitely more difficult to finish the game as a pure melee character with absolutely no magic support coming in at any point at all. It benefits the character greatly to at least get some basic air spells in a pinch. Especially s...

So you might as well make the process as enjoyable as possible. What makes you think this will make the process more enjoyable for the average player? Does starting casters with staves add any tactical or strategic decisions? As far as I can tell, it just makes the game easier for them. Who's the a...

I understand monsters with hands picking up weapons and armor and wands. I think the scroll/potion/jewelry/misc. item-wandering should go away. And yet, how many times have you encountered a goblin armed with a +0 +0 dagger sleeping next to an unused +X +X Branded Artifact sabre ? This is the thing...

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szanth wrote:I'll repeat it; storage in stores. It gets me kind of excited to think about, and I can't think of any way that this would break the game.

Storage in tesseracts. We ARE talking about a game with magic, right?

... I don't understand. o_O

I completely disagree; the first few floors don't matter at all. Floors 1-4 are throwaways as far as I'm concerned. If you think the first few floors of the game don't matter at all, why do you want to change them by adding staves? Because part of the reason those floors are throwaways is that if y...

Sadly, I agree with danr. Not that agreeing with danr is sad, but that monks are obsolete compared to their magic-supported counterparts. Not to say that you can't win with a monk, because someone will surely come along and suggest that I'm saying exactly that, but it's just that a transmuter is the...

I've been on a pretty sad unarmed kick (no pun intended) lately. Pretty much all my guys die within the first five levels; been doing a lot of KeTm, MiMo, various other combinations of things I think might utilize unarmed well. Which they do; the unarmed isn't the problem, it's just that they can't ...

@minmay I completely disagree; the first few floors don't matter at all. Floors 1-4 are throwaways as far as I'm concerned. The game is a whole lot bigger than that, and it doesn't really get interesting until you get beyond it. Staves aren't superpowers. A mage against a viable threat would be pret...

The rest of my post went on to describe how they're -not- as good as a fighter beyond D1. And even -in- D1, they aren't as good, it's just that the challenge is lesser than what is required of both builds. The fighter is still the better fighter.

Yeah, it takes away your claws. Which I don't like, but meh. :p

I knew it boosted it, but I thought the spellcasting/invocations boosts stacked. Kinda disappointed that they don't.

joellercoaster wrote:Hmm. Apparently EEs never had Dig in the starting book.

Still not sure about religion - Fedhas is thematic but I have zero idea of how to play him. Necromancy is a pretty decent second school for SEEE I suspect, so Kiku worship could be a way forward?

Nah, you get dig in the transmutation book.

Okay, for non-casters then - monks, fighters etc. For casters, what if there was a smaller version of the quarterstaff, a staff that was 5' instead of 8' or whatever a quarterstaff is? It would be 1.5 handed and do damage of 4 or 5. It could be a "rod", "baton", "staff"...

danr, a quarterstaff with no Fighting or Staves skill is enough to clear D:1 with. This isn't that bad for non-casters, but for casting backgrounds I think it is completely unacceptable; fighters need to be better at fighting than casters, because they're worse at nearly everything else. You won't ...

It's these fucking socialists, man, I swear. Gad. Wanna give free healthcare to all the ogres; where does that come from, you tell me! From the dungeon taxpayers, that's who! Goddamned welfare-abusing ogres...

Well yeah, rods. But also evocable equipment, so a melee guy still has access to a reliable source of levitation and such, things that casters are pretty much guaranteed to have and that non-casters would otherwise have to rely entirely on potions for.

Apportation is only really useful -because- it's so easy, I think.

On topic, maybe it'd be better off being a rod instead of a wand. Harder to find, but generally more useful once you do.

Lots of people have tried to get more than 3 runes the first time they're able to, and then die soon after, regretting that they hadn't just gone for Zot. But, others succeed. So it's up to you. Is GDA considered heavy armor? I assume it is. If so, it's good for defense but might screw with your una...

Srsly. Berserkers of all kinds can benefit from evocations. It's the closest to magic they can get.

Meh, I'm in too good a mood to dance with dpeg today. For what it's worth, seth, I liked the idea.

Training fighting being easier for casters? Sounds like a plus to me.

It's not necessarily a problem. If it was, the biggest tip you could give a newcomer wouldn't be "Look up every monster you see". I don't think they did this on purpose, but it's ended up being a pretty huge part of Crawl. And it's not going away, because they don't want that level of tran...

My point being people were using "encourages spoilers" as a reason to not use the god, which seems silly. And even more irritatingly so, Monkey did it after I'd already made my point the first time, and he didn't acknowledge it. :p

Just acquired (through a scroll!) seasons 1-8 of Penn and Teller's Bullshit!, so that'll be playing in the background for a long while.

Eh... I could be wrong, but generally the game seems kind of leaned -against- staves. They aren't really the strongest or second-strongest weapon class (unless you luck out and find a lajatang, and even then) and pretty much seem relegated to magic-users that wanna hit things with the something that...

Do want.

>_> Again, IMO the game already requires spoilers to survive.

-Or-... storage in stores.

Of course you'd be able to skip it.

Oh, right: I love you too, Jenx.

Does this mean that if he were to be near a corpse, wearing the ring, with the spell activated, his hunger level would rise a tic for every incarnation of regeneration he had on?

The game as it is already encourages spoilers, Mageykun, so that's not really a negative point to make. :p

As I understand it, there's a chance an enemy will just pick up something you've dropped. That's why most people stash in hive and lair, because there's no enemies with opposable thumbs there.

Actually that would be really awesome if, when you died, you could write your own epitaph.

I'll repeat it; storage in stores. It gets me kind of excited to think about, and I can't think of any way that this would break the game.

It's not a glitch, it's there so you can see where the monster -was-.

Generally you can tell which one is the real one by it ... not being in the shadow. And it's the only one that moves.

minmay wrote:Uh, it does.

Oh. Well, can you recommend one set?

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