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I think that grouping species will never produce a satisfactory result. They vary too wildly. Only dpeg's thematic categorisation makes sense, but it's not very informative.

I question how a tiny faerie can draw a bow.

zasvid: the original idea (don't know by whom) was that high-end weapons (executioner axe, the good swords etc.) use two skills, i.e. an additional skill besides their original weapon class. Well, that sounds better. I'll track down this idea to add a few details that might accentuate its strengths...

My proposal makes gaining HP harder (in the sense of more expensive) for the one not interested in melee without hurting the melee fighter any. As far as I understand your proposal, it will result in pure melee fighters switching constantly (at least after maxing out their main weapon skill) betwee...

I hate scaling difficulty with player XL. That's very meta-gamey and uninteresting. Scaling over time spent in the abyss is much better. If you're abyssed too often early on, then you're screwed. And you should be, or else, what's the point of the Abyss? While I can certainly see your point, charac...

Yredelemnul is superb. His main thing is decent, while pain mirror and drain life are great equalizers against strong single foes and groups, respectively.

Worship Yredelemnul, animate your toughest kills and win! Look here at the proof of concept.

yeah, bad mutation lottery ticket makes me quit a character (or suicide by reckless behaviour). I once abandoned a midgame conjurer after getting double deterioration from a mutation potion and no sustain abilities. I just didn't want to bother with Str reduced to crap.

danr wrote:What's a good approach to clearing Slime:6?

Avoid

danr wrote:I don't think I can play anymore for a while. If this guy couldn't win, I just can't win. And I don't think I'll ever get this good a charactor again.

Don't worry, this guy could win all right. After getting three runes and clearing Elf and Crypt like you did, Zot could be carefully cleared.

Silly? Yes. Accurate? Also yes. Alot of things in game are already silly. See: yaktaurs. ... that doesn't mean that adding more silliness is in any way justified. Many a times I have read claims from roguelike players who never got into NetHack because of tourists and kitchen sinks. On the other ha...

Might be cool. How would this work out in terms of the console interface, though? Suppose it would be safe enough to just ignore it for that and leave them as standard gold $s. Using different colors to signify worth could work, especially if tiles had some gems in them, though colors suggesting di...

A level 5 OgFi with Fighting 2 has 48 HP. And they level very quickly. Sure, they're not sturdy, but they live up to the beefiness expectations. A HuFi at the same level has 40 and levels just as quickly, while a MD or HO Fi has 43. That's not a difference that would have anyone go "hey, those...

Yes, that would be very nice.

"mummies don't have to worry about hunger, but hunger is mostly irrelevant anyway, and especially so for far more proficient spellcasters" "deep elves are good at casting but so are other races and they aren't near as fragile" "demigods have good stats but other races are j...

ryak wrote:How about this:

Armour -> Wearing

Would suggest it helps with anything that you can wear, including cloaks, robes, gloves, wizard hats etc., which is just not true.

Well, I did a bit of research when playing a ghoul monk to check whether I should be investing in Str or Dex on level ups and found out that Unarmed Combat has 40% Str weight, according to a comment in the source code. So I guess there isn't much difference or Dex might be even better for the purpos...

That would be great!

Wands of polymorph other are pretty good against Oklobs. They turn them into wandering mushrooms.

We want a pure melee fighter to have significantly more Health by game end than a pure caster. I doubt that you'll get there in a good way without taking into access skills. For one, even a pure caster will be able to spend a number of stat increases on Str. This is not what we want! I doubt that y...

I'm fond of rooms with doors spanning multiple tiles and an assortment of tough monsters inside. Those doors suggest trouble and trouble is what I get. Now, if the monsters inside were themed somehow...

Also, castles are awesome.

- Do you get emotionally attached to particularly promising characters? Oh yeah, once they get past a certain point of achievement I tend to store their morgue files in a 'graveyard' folder so I can reminisce about those fallen heroes. - Roughly how many games of Crawl have you played? About how ma...

My second win. I added ghouls to my roster of characters, because they could clean up some early ghosts without leaving their own, but I also wanted to win with one, as they seemed fun. I had some trouble choosing a god, because undead are forbidden from worshipping a few, I didn't want to branch ou...

I think Death Knights should be removed. Yredelemnul doesn't seem appropriate as a starting god, as there's very little playstyle definition. Yredelemnul is useful for a starting background. He provides necromantic abilities to fighter types and any new players which might be inspired to play a cha...

MarvintheParanoidAndroid wrote:TSO's abbreviation is "1"

His name should be changed to "The Shining 1" :lol:

Dropping potions to protect them from mummy curses is generally a good idea. It's a bad idea to do so in an ossuary though, at least those wide open ones. Losing a few potions to decay when you kill the mummies is unfortunate, but being forced to retreat from a crowd of mummies you can't kill, leav...

The letter restriction means that there is a cap of 26 gods. Only about eight left to go. There ought to be a workaround to allow 27 gods. It shouldn't be a problem, because this rule is already broken -> The Shining One conflicts with existing gods (Trog, Sif Muna, Okawaru) no matter which letter ...

Very interesting concept. Some formal comments: Avoid god names that start with a letter already in use. (So Jesirecht steps on Jiyva's toes.) There is no reason to make this god not a temple god. Note that Beogh (orcs only), Jiyva (Slime), Lugonu (Abyss, and enemy of the gods) are much more specia...

Personally, I liked the idea of removing the Temple and overflow altars, and replacing them with mini-temples, which are simple vaults with three or four altars each. All the Temple gods would be guaranteed between D:2-9 as now, but they'd appear in a less chaotic pattern. It would be awesome if mi...

Also I have to say that I'm surprised you love Crawl for the flavor--it's always seemed like a pretty standard orc basher to me in that regard (this is not necessarily a criticism). Well, flavour of a game is like a flavour of a dish - it doesn't have to be exotic to be rich and tasty. I, for one, ...

Fedhasites are Druids

I think it would be interesting to have some crazy transformations. An acidic jelly. A swarm of bees. Yeah, a swarm of bees would be a fun one.

Reading scrolls of curse weapon/armor/jewellry (and I guess other harmful/useless scrolls) is a cheap way to victory dance your way towards gaining Spellcasting. ...................why did I never think of that? If you have a weapon of holy wrath, curse weapon can't curse it, but you still spend th...

One day it will be the greatest game in the world but that day is not today. Maybe, maybe not. If the DevTeam continues its splendid work, DCSS might turn out the greatest in the end (and I'm not saying that it isn't already - because chances are it is - but that it might become impossible to overt...

Well, that explains a lot. Though the Crypt certainly looked like a rune-iffic place. I should've read some rune spoilers first.

Sooooo, I cleared Crypt:5, even killed an ancient lich and was ready to leave, but I can't find the rune. Any idea where it might be? This is my map: #################################################### #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~...

I wanted to have a little vacation on the splendid beaches located in the Dungeon of Zot. However, when I got there, the quality of my destination was significantly lower than advertisements suggested! The beaches were all rocky and not at all filled with beautiful, golden sand. It's disappointing :...

I would love to find a "silly" branch. There could be a dedicated thread for it here - "What kind of crazy autobranch did you find?" Well, I would hate to - I am a very serious roguelike gamer :P There would certainly be challenges in doing it well. I just feel like the current ...

I _really_ like KL's idea. Using the same mechanics for the same things really simplifies design and makes things more transparent to the player. Other racial differences already show up as "mutations" - speed 3, herbivore 2, etc. Seconded, that's a simple and elegant solution. I think it...

Reading scrolls of curse weapon/armor/jewellry (and I guess other harmful/useless scrolls) is a cheap way to victory dance your way towards gaining Spellcasting.

*** What? Halfilngs as dodgy as elves and even better than high ones? Halflings are small humans and they are hard to hit because they are... small. Not because of their unnatural agility. +1\0 would be enough Well, in most fantasy settings Halflings are not only small, but also unnaturally agile (...

I imagine it would be hard to autogenerate good flavour of branches. Consider randarts -> their names usually have little to do with what they represent. Now extend that problem to characterisation of branches. Results probably would be quite silly, like City of the Hydras or the Dwarf and Elf Beach...

Well, unless one wants to pick up Trog for his ranged character and suddenly AMs aren't always better. Trog doesn't care that you have spells memorized, just that you don't memorize or cast more. The advantage a human hunter has over a human AM is one point of enchantment on their arrows, a leather...

it's about one background always being better than the other. Just as there's basically no incentive to pick a hunter over an arcane marksman if you're a species that would get bows, Well, unless one wants to pick up Trog for his ranged character and suddenly AMs aren't always better. Large rocks c...

It makes more sense that you could sneak up on a single paranoid orc who's looking for trouble than eight paranoid orcs who are all watching each other's backs. That is, in fact, one of the major points of living in a group. It should be nearly impossible to sneak up on a group, much harder than it...

I don't see how it's less intuitive. It's how I expected it to work myself. In real life, sneaking is about how quiet you are, not how many people are listening. Dropping a pin in a room full of sleeping people doesn't guarantee someone is going to hear it and wake up just because there's 200 of th...

mageykun wrote:An Okawaru-ior? A Yred-head? Shinners!

Okawarrior sounds awesome, because Warriors probably would be to Okawaru as Paladins are(/were) to TSO and prepending Oka- to them makes it obvious. Fun!

I guess whether you like the mid-game reflects how you feel about games that typically require lots of grinding. I guess it doesn't have to. I generally learned to hate grinding in games and I have yet to feel bored in Crawl's midgame [¹], after a year of playing. Though I can imagine it might happ...

I completely disagree; the first few floors don't matter at all. Floors 1-4 are throwaways as far as I'm concerned. If you think the first few floors of the game don't matter at all, why do you want to change them by adding staves? So you might as well make the process as enjoyable as possible. Plu...

So, I've upgraded from 0.7.1 to 0.7.2 and would like to keep the ghosts that have been left behind in various places to spice up the game. Is it enough to copy bones files to the appropriate directory?

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