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Its not that I like throwing that much. Rather, if I train bows or crossbows I ussually do not train a melee weapon, because there's no point. Distortion is not good for a secondary weapon for bow/crossbow users, but I rarely care that much about my secondary weapon's brand. I rarely use untrained b...

I do not think that distortion narrows your options that much, as bows/crossbows/slings + melee is not a very common combination for me, and everything else works fine. Sure, staffs are useful for spellpower but spells work fine without them, and throwing and evocations - the two most popular option...

I guess vamp is good for a bot because bots has a harder time retreating and resting or breaking up large groups. Otherwise, wamp is not that good: it does not always trigger, and does not even work on some of the strongest enemies. A long time ago I calculated elec vs fire/ice on large weapons, if ...

Thanks for being my first team during a tournament! Your support also brought my first tournament win (with a Nemelex combo, but too late to be the first 8). Unfortunately I did not win a second time, so only one win - maybe I'll get better for next time.

petercordia wrote:I don't know about the singing sword. I've heard good things about it, but would it have to replace your shield?

The singing sword is one handed (double sword), so it would not had to replace my shield. But I died anyway.

I am a long blade user (BaWz), currently using a demon blade of flaming, and the singing sword is available for 3200 gold... Where, this is a lot, but would it worth it? Is it a good artefact now? Also, does pearl dragon armour actually good? An unenchanced one is available for 3500 gold... seems a ...

Code:: The apparition of Panli the Archer, a journeyman Centaur Arcane Marksman of Okawaru.

A ghost from the past: I did not know ghosts from past versions can show non-existent races....

If I am not mistaken, Siegurt have just suggested your limited quiver idea two posts above (although it is hidden at the end of a very long post). I personally do not like this limited and time-rechargable quiver because it makes ranged weapons too similar to spells with a different mp. I think that...

Yeah, the current situation is bad: balancing by tedium. But I think nobody has any idea what exactly to do, so they kept procrastinating doing anything with it. If there were no ammo, ranged combad were so much superior to melee that almost nobody would do any melee anymore. Bows would be better th...

Code:: You finish putting on the +14 crystal plate armour of Narcissism {Str+7}.

With the +7 strength I was able to cast Iron Shot in it with my HaEE with a little bit of training.

I won, but I was a few hours slow for a Nelemex's choice win. :-(

I put on a ring of strength and wore the crystal plate armour. I won't find a similar armour soon.

Code:: You finish putting on the +14 crystal plate armour of Narcissism {Str+7}.

Unfortunately I am a HaEE. Although I can still cast LRR in it with 7% failure rate - maybe I should use it?

I have AC 39 EV 29 without it, and AC 61, EV 14 in it. (But I can not cast iron shot in it yet.)

Well, I have died again, now against the Royal Jelly, with a MuAM. I was close to get a Nemelex Choice win, but whatever, I usually die late game. I need to take a short break now - maybe this tournament still won't be the one where I will win.

I have found Zephy on my Ghoud Delver who just joined Makhleb .... I am sure I'll die leaving makhleb for Okawaru.

Edit: well, uhm, yeah, this happened. Sorry teammeates, I am terrible.

Well, I died as ususal: got bored in Depths and tabbed too much.

Hi, I have died with my HaEn in Lair 6, very bad play. I usually play fast. Now I am at Orc 2, with my PaWn of Oka. I have 14 UC skill and blade hands, but I have found the dragon king armour, shield of the gong, manual of polarms and staves - all not used. I consider maybe I switch to the dragon ki...

I do not think I have ever won during a tournament - but I would be happy to join, make a few attempts at nemelex combos and listent others bragging.

It does not matter whether it is optimal to tediously avoid using summons whenever possible or not. If it is not optimal, then why we have a hidden mechanic, which seems to encourage this? Simple remove it. If it is optimal, then it is a bad mechanic, so remove it. Summons are still strong, but I th...

In my experience ghouls are generally stronger than vampires, because more hp matters more than aptitudes, and their heal on kills is better than vampire's vampiric bite. The strong ability of a vampire is bat form: but in recent versions you can use it much, much less since it has an actual cost. B...

Also, vampires can use transmutations when they are in Alive status.

I think in trunk the corpse eating thing is gone, and instead ghouls heal on kills.

1) What I am trying to say is that "no food" practically was never considered as a benefit of mummies. It was a trap for new players: from the description and the game they assumed that mummies has this "benefit", and they need to use it with a mummy somehow. In reality you could...

1) Food never mattered for normal play: that mummys do not need food was a newbie trap. Food never limited normal play in a meaningful way for other species. The only tactics where no food mattered was if you waited millions of turns for some reasons, which, in past versions, only mummy was able to ...

Given how many characters I lose in Zot, I'm not convinced the late game is uninteresting. But maybe I'm just bad at it. While I generally do not enjoy the late game as much as the early game, this was not what I meant here - probably my weak English, sorry. I merely wanted to say that *troves* are...

I think the problem is not cost vs benefits (too big costs), but simply that troves are a feature of the second part of the game, which is still not interesting enough. Neither a lot of consumables, nor some good items make big enough difference there, thus troves will never feel very exiting. Of co...

What would have been different if you had not been autoexploring? It seems that the unpronouncable critter had you paralysed the moment you noticed it. Could have happened in any circumstances. For most cases of paralysis, your positioning matters a lot. Without autoexplore, you can explore so that...

Yes, andrew is right: with the name change come some stat changes. Hedge wizards has 4 less int (gaining 3 more strength and 1 more dex), while conjurers gained the old wizard stat distribution (so they have 3 more int, but 1 less strength and 2 less dex now). (So it seems it is possible to redistri...

Both are backgrounds in trunk (development version of the game), persumably they will be available in the 0.26 release. Br is "Brigand" - They are idendtical to old assassins (As), which are renamed to brigands in trunk. De is "Delver" - This is a completly new (and strange) back...

Sounds a funny idea, but the problem is that with most of these limits after you succesfully summoned a copy (or a few) you are encouraged to switch weapons. I think it would not result in a good gameplay: weapons like this should very heavily discourage switching to avoid constant switching being o...

Wait, Xtahua can paralyse?! I have been playing a long time and I did not know.

Thanks for the beautiful autoexplore paralysis example! Also, I may approach Xtahua with more respect in the future.

EDIT: Sorry, I somehow missed petercordia's answer, who covered mostly the same things. Nevertheless, I leave this response here, I am too lazy to edit. Never go Depths if you feel underpowered for rune branches - Depths is way more dangerous. You got a "deformed body" mutation from a neqo...

Even after you recommended these ridiculous looking search expressions (how did you come up with them?), I can not even find the search box on discord where they give any results. I am probably stupid, but can someone enlighten me how to actually search for anything dcss related on discord? I can't ...

Yes, tavern seems to be quite quiet nowadays. I suspect that new persons can not (easily) register, at least I do not really see new people anymore. Or maybe everybody has moved to Reddit.

In my experience -Archmagi does not matter much for Absolute Zero. It is extremely loud either way, and there are not other difference. I personally would still wear the scarf on a character with Absolute Zero.

Hexes are not useless lategame: they are very useful even in extended. What you probably mean is that you can not prepare to stab all monsters completely with hexes anymore.

Warning: I am not an expert on stealth, so do not take my words as definite source of information. I feel that one benefit of a stealthy character is that enemies sometimes forget to chase you after you take a corner. This is not very useful in general since there are staircases that do the same job...

About the difficulty spike: I second those who tell you that there are no difficulty spike around the first rune (or elswhere). I am quite surprised at this. In my experience, there is a significant difficulty spike at this point. Granted, some D:15 endings are quite tough (fire giant, frost giant)...

About the difficulty spike: I second those who tell you that there are no difficulty spike around the first rune (or elswhere). There are just way too many things the game does not tell you. Apart from opaque abilities of monsters and dungeon features (webs, shallow water, etc.), there is an additio...

I do not think a blessed demon weapon is that good. It is good in the extended part of the game, but it is not so good before that: its brand is useless against most enemies. For example a demon whip of electrution is better during a standard 3 rune game than a sacred scourge.

But this phenomenon is usually called "spoilery", and nobody denied that for DCSS, in fact that was one of the main critique of the game. "Winscumming" sounds a pretty dumb name for this, and it sounds pretty stupid to suggest that players cheat when they start a new account when...

It was good as an amulet, since you could just remove it quickly whenever you were in danger. The drain cost did not matter much.

It is scary as a cloak though, I personally would not wear it.

Absolute Zero is a new level 9 Ice spell in 0.25, replacing Glaciate. It kills 1 monster immediately - you can not target with it, it randomly kills 1 amongst the nearest ones. To the best of my knowledge it kills everything in the game including named Pan Lords.

Code:: Identified the +9 ring mail of Ytycoif {rC+ Dex+3 Slay+3} | (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)

It remained my armour troughout the game till I won. The slaying was extra good for my quickblade, I had 40/40/12 defense at the end with hat of the alchemist.

I personally would not train short blades even if I would find two manuals.

A spellcaster still can have defenses. Train fighting and dodging a lot. Spells can take them out from a distance, which is much easier than with melee, since giants hit quite strong, but they do not move faster than you, therefore you can keep a safe distance. My usual spellcaster characters can ki...

For a BaIE of Vehumet with Ozocubu's Armour, Ozocubu's Refrigeration, Freezing Cloud and Absolute Zero, which armor would you choose?
(Lets say I have no other resistances from items, just a staff of cold.)

Code:: +5 robe of Night {Dark MR+ SInv} +2 robe of resistance +5 steam dragon scales

I do not completely understand your question. What skill levels did you expected for fire and earth and why? Which guide do you talk about and which necromancy spells? I personally would never train any fire magic with an earth elementalist. I would not train stealth that high (or at all) with this ...

You seem to forgot that XP scales exponentially with the early levels (and I think about quadratic later). This would mean that you are about 1 level lower (and similarly with skills) (in the early levels) if you somehow have the patience for some challenge to kill everything just with summons. Howe...

I am lazy to check the code, but to the best of my knowledge you get 50% of the experience.

Because, contrary what svendre beleives, the penalty is actually not meaningful, and barely noticable if you do not know about it. Of course svendre is absolutely right that we should still remove it.

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