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If we already have two gods that gift spells early enough for non-book backgrounds to get into spellcasting, why do we need a third? Why should Sif be more like Veh and Kiku on this, exactly?

I don't think "give earlier book gifts" would really be a meaningful improvement, since outside the unknown god altar if I'm somebody who doesn't have spells I already have god options for getting them. I want Sif to be fun, not broad, in other words; the criteria is "how fun is Sif w...

Lacuenta wrote:Hopefully the elitist mentality and thanks baiting will return soon!

"return"? They left?

Vault wardens could just be able to seal doorways, unless the idea is to do away with them altogether.

It's in your user profile, if you just want to stare at those numbers and feel good about the quantification of how much people really like you duvessa

if I'm amish how am I using a computer pubby

I don't think Thanks-on-OP-only worked. It's possible that some of the benefits of Thanks removal would only reveal themselves after everyone got tired of meme'ing about it, but a) I don't think it encouraged people to chime in with more constructive posts and b) I don't think it really cut back on ...

huh, my bad dowan.

Man I have clearly completely forgotten my rune lock history or y'all are misleading me.

While I won't take mod action on the report I received, can we maybe all agree to respect one another's opinions on this? Crawl isn't "intrinsically flawed," people aren't making mountains out of tediousness molehills, and people aren't clinging to some kind of "emotional attachment&q...

Sends the user into a berserk rage. Going berserk temporarily increases health, speed, and damage dealt in melee. It will time out quickly outside of combat, but may be extended by multiple kills. While berserk, almost all actions other than movement and melee combat are prevented. Such a rage is f...

No, dowan, the rune lock was introduced to force people to get a rune before going to vaults, a task it accomplishes very well. I still don't like it, but it definitely succeeds in that narrow mission, which is essentially to force people to do a rune vault at XL15-17.

FWIW, I decided on "Proposals & Contributions" by accepting that the only way to keep the signal-to-noise ratio high in a "design forum" would be to have a fairly narrow scope. Half-baked proposals, thought experiments, and basically everything short of a "finished propo...

"Wade through" makes it sound like there's this deluge of posts you'd have to make it through, when in reality the Tavern's traffic is pretty sedate and even if we only had a single subforum it would hardly be overwhelming. If you haven't, I suggest using the link to "The Tavern"...

A few points in response to crate: Wanderer's Courtyard is more or less unmoderated and has virtually no traffic. I don't think we really have much interest in maintaining it, though I think we'd all be happy to provide a sticky post/sidebar on the main CDO site with links to forums in other languag...

Except The Dart Board has had 88 topics in 2 years, and even if you threw in the non-proposal GDD posts, active competitions would still stay on the front page of The Tavern without any trouble. The argument for retaining The Dart Board for organizational purposes is stronger, but ignores the fact t...

I think the current balance is okay, actually. The midgame "gear checks" are pretty layered, and without them, characters would run through the midgame with a much simpler algorithm. It's frustrating for speedrunners, certainly, but for normalcrawl I think it tends to work fine. The trick ...

The mods have been discussing thanks, and the experiment is nearly over. When we know what we're going to do next, we'll be sure to let everyone know.

Why should these be added to the game?

It's kind of hard to split this discussion, so if we want to talk about Chei, let's take it to another thread, thanks guys.

I miss the thanks button too, because Sar's nailed it.

That said, I don't mind Chei and I also don't mind Qaz; I def. think Qaz could be better, but a noiseless version would need to be designed from the ground-up imo and would end up being a totally different god anyway.

It seems like a thing you could do, but it's hard to understand why you'd want to. It's "viable," but I don't know that it sounds like much fun unless you're roleplaying, and if you're doing that there are frankly much, much better games in which to do it.

For me, dynast, Qaz's abilities without the noise really aren't interesting. It's just four spells you get for worshipping a god that you have to spend piety to cast. I'm also pretty sure that Xom and Chei could both be said to encourage "degenerate" behaviors as designed; Xom's gifts enco...

Yeah, as I was saying to dynast in gammafunk's stream, it's really okay if the game has weird niche gods. There's no expectation of balance (if there was, we would have to nerf Trog way before we thought about buffing Qaz), and there are plenty of reasons to include gods that offer narrow playstyles...

On webtiles, hit "edit rc" next to the version of your choice, and then either toggle the switches yourself while editing out the '#' characters in front of it, or copy and paste what Jarlyk said above. Also, "maybe the wiki should mention" a lot of things, but for a wide variety...

Nobody moved this post, Tiktacy, though if HG would prefer it to be in GDD there's no reason it couldn't be put there. That said, I literally don't understand the logic in the OP; it seems intuitively obvious to me that fire spells should be able to target trees, and the idea that "trees behave...

+1 to an rcfile tutorial on Tavern, but until then, the guide included with the game is a good resource. That guide seems to be only for download players and not online players, unless I'm missing something? It's all the same thing. Hit "edit rc" next to the version of your choice on webt...

On the contrary, kuniqs, I can't imagine that goldifying chunks or your other proposals are really that much more trivial to implement than tabstorm's. In any case, the problem isn't ease of implementation, but the complexity of implementation. A majority of the player's actions are impacted by hung...

FWIW, I'm still not totally sure why starvation has to kill the player instead of some other very bad thing, like we have with statzero in modern Crawl. I'd be much happier with no hunger and no food, but the fact that you can be instantly killed because of hunger seems unnecessary. +1 to an rcfile ...

I removed a couple of replies here, and I apologize to jeremygurr, as I'm partially responsible for pushing this conversation off topic.

Others can feel free to start a new thread on DCSS' inventory. Please use this thread to discuss DCSS-CA's inventory change.

I've always liked the idea of turning strategic items into dungeon features, like bookshelves or forges or shrines or whatever. If you go the goldification route, it'd be a neat way to handle it instead of having different inventories for different scrolls and books.

Gozag's denial of chunks in exchange for god powers and loot is mechanically interesting even if I'm not sure that it works perfectly, and I'm inclined to think that without that tradeoff, Gozag is just a way more complicated version of Okawaru. It also should go without saying that without the Mida...

8. I don't know how you change the hunger interaction with Gozag. Instead of making Gozag revolve around the denial of corpses, make it revolve around the denial of monster-carried loot? Everything a monster carries is turned into gold? This is a tough one; Gozag would need to be substantially rede...

I like the idea of a tomb escape run, like if tomb 1 just had a trapdoor down, and so did tomb 2, which dumped you right to the rune. You grab the rune, then have to run back through the current tomb setup, except you'd take a trapdoor up each time, and obviously the enemy density would need to be ...

Yeah, dpeg, could you link to some bigger description of how "item disappearance" works? It, uh, sounds incredibly annoying and I have a hard time imagining how it wouldn't be gameable in some fashion. Put me in crate's camp here; almost all of Crawl's inventory problems are really item bl...

no these are even better imo

Goldify chunks (take no inventory space) and make them automatically appear in your chunk slot when you kill something that leaves a corpse. What if chunks were entirely un-carryable, and 'c' just had you eat your fill leaving no physical items for you to obsess over behind? I can't help but point ...

The last really big food discussion was my food removal thread , for what it's worth, and I still agree with the basic thrust of my OP if not all the specifics. Food should go. It's inelegant, tedious, and kludgy in every place that it makes an appearance in Crawl's mechanics. Full food removal doe...

If vampires and food both still have to remain in Crawl despite the fact that they're horrible, no-good, very bad mechanics, then this seems like a totally reasonable proposal. Just allow vampires to make "bloody chunks" or something.

all before wrote:As it is, it just means I have to play suboptimally to go Jiyva

Given how easily one can transition from Fedhas to Jiyva, this is only true for undead.

Yeah, I had a Swamp:5 with a decently long corridor off of the rune vault, and spire basically mowed through the entirety of the (TLHless) vault. It's also the only targetable summon, which gives it some utility as a blocker that really comes in handy.

It seems to me that if I direct my summons to attack foe #1 by attacking it myself (e.g. with a ranged weapon), then they continue to attack the same one, even if I attack foe #2 myself afterwards. I hope that this observation is correct. It was relevant once when I wanted my summons to destroy a h...

On the off chance you're not joking, Zip, it's the little exclamation point button there in the lower right.

Oh, I totally knew it was a joke, I just think that Wikipedia post is interesting.

Are there any questions the Korean community has for us?

For what it's worth, one of Wikipedia's most famous administrators and arbitrators, Newyorkbrad, wrote an interesting essay on this topic a few years ago.

Here's gammafunk's twitch channel . The answers to your specific questions, of which there are most definitely more than "a couple": ⋅ You should cast basically all of your summons, up to the cap, for any non-trivial encounter. Don't get rid of spammals until you've got somethin...

I think we need a "Lair" subforum, a place where all the poisonous statements, drowning arguments and corrosive memes are moved to. This is already here, but it's the moderator's private subforum. If things get too poisonous, drowning, or corrosive, no matter the subforum, hit the report ...

Casting in CPA isn't outright impossible, but you'll have an easier time of it in GDA or PDA. Train the schools of the spells you want to learn until the failure rate is acceptable. That's about it. I'd prioritize getting blink and apportation by training translocations. There's no real reason not t...

You should probably clear Shoals next. I'd be inclined to go with the GDA, but that CPA is probably fine. The fact that you have 0 dodging is not fine. Stop training armour, probably forever, and start training dodging. I'd stop training invocations until after you switch to TSO. Your weapon is also...

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